Full auto weapon query.

Firepower! · April 29, 2010, 12:22 PM

Hi
I am just curious as to how much will the following full auto cost in the US:

AUG
AUG Commando
M4
M4A1
Stichken APS
Beretta 93R
Glock 18
AK47
UZI
MP5
MP5K
Galil

Please feel free to give price on other full autos as this thread may be able to serve price questions that folks may have in mind.

Thanks

1911rocks · April 29, 2010, 02:59 PM

AUG
AUG Commando --- Foreign manufacture neither can be transferred to a civilian

M4
M4A1 -- Came after 1986 Can't be transferred to an Icivilian

Stichken APS--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian

Beretta 93R--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian

Glock 18--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian

AK47--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian

UZI--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian

MP5--The Early ones were foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an individual anything after 1986 can't be transferred to an civilian anyway

MP5K--The Early ones were foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an individual anything after 1986 can't be transferred to an civilian anyway

Galil--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian

B. Lahey · April 29, 2010, 03:48 PM

Sorry, 1911, you are wrong. The foreign weirdness deals with importation, not transfer of guns already in the country.

I think the only ones on the list that are flat-out unavailable are the Glock 18 and maybe the Stechkin. I'm pretty sure the only real Glock 18s in the US are dealer-samples. There may be a few 17 conversions that snuck in before 1986. There may be a few Stechkins floating around, but I have never seen one or heard of one being sold.

93Rs are beyond rare. I think there are a two or three transferable 93Rs in the US, the last one sold brought upwards of $100,000 as I remember it.

Lots of people have built M4ish rifles out of transferable M16 parts, so those are cheaper, although not quite the real deal.

Transferable Kalashnikovs are also megabucks guns. Not many around, everyone wants one, supply and demand. Not many made it into the country before 86 except a few Vietnam bringbacks.

Uzis and MP5s are lots cheaper, you see them for sale all the time. Check out the NFA section of Gunbroker.

David Hineline · April 29, 2010, 10:32 PM

Imported machineguns were banned in 1968 but plenty of imported semi autos were converted to full auto once in the US and those were available as US made guns till 1986.

Austin Cowart · April 29, 2010, 10:53 PM

The OP is in Pakistan! Thats why he wants to know the US Prices!!!
AUG non dealer sample $1500
AUG Commando $1700
M4 $800-900
M4A1 same as m4
Stichken APS
Beretta 93R
Glock 18 $800
AK47 $800
UZI
MP5 $1500
MP5K $1500
Galil
All prices are what we paid at our gun range with Demo letters from our local CLEOs
OP if you want a good fix on prices check out
http://www.policeguns.com/catalog/in...p?cPath=35_271

Clyde deals in alot of police full autos and dang i havent ben to his site in a while his prices went up!

johnwilliamson062 · April 29, 2010, 11:30 PM

Dear firepower,
You own a lot of guns.
You have only two hands/arms/trigger fingers.
I can help you out.

predator86 · May 1, 2010, 10:55 PM

did i just hear someone volunteer to be a pack mule?? it might be a little warm over there to volunteer to carry firepower's arsenal...

Willie Lowman · May 2, 2010, 12:33 PM

If you are talking transferable... Many of these guns were made from semi autos registered as machineguns before 86.

AUG
AUG Commando
--I have never seen one, I don't know the price.

M4
M4A1
--Between $10,000 to $20,000 depending on the collector value of the lower.

Stichken APS
-- I don't think there are any in the registry.

Beretta 93R
-- Very few of these were made in America. I saw a Taurus clone of one sell for over $40,000 a few years ago

Glock 18
-- Post 86 gun. None are transferable.

AK47
-- I recently saw a Polytech that had been converted sell for $14,500 and one that had been converted to Krinkov length sell for $19,000.

UZI
-- Between $5,500 to $8,000 depending on who did the work. Mini Uzis are always top dollar.

MP5
-- $18,000 More if it was converted to a SD.

MP5K
-- $22,000

Galil
-- $20,000

Some of these guns I have not seen for sale for a few years, I am going on memory. Prices may have changed to to fluctuations in the market.

johnwilliamson062 · May 2, 2010, 02:03 PM

hot or not, I can hang targets, pick up brass, make coffee AND pull triggers.

Firepower! · May 13, 2010, 09:44 AM

lol...I am sure we can have some fun.

Well looking those prices I dont feel bad paying for full autos here. There are about the half what is listed above, generally.

Dr. Strangelove · May 13, 2010, 11:05 AM

Quote:

OP if you want a good fix on prices check out
http://www.policeguns.com/catalog/in...p?cPath=35_271

Clyde deals in alot of police full autos and dang i havent ben to his site in a while his prices went up!

I live about a mile from Clyde Armory,

they just built a new building and moved into it about a month ago. Nice guys.

Skans · May 13, 2010, 11:15 AM

You can't possibly compare US prices of full-auto weapons to what they would sell for in Pakistan. First, no weapons from Pakistan can be shipped to the US, or the other way around. Second, the high dollar cost of full auto weapons is due to registration. These same weapons, unregsitered, if they were to be sold on the US black market (highly illegal) would cost a tiny fraction of what legally regsitered ones do. You're paying for the registration, not so much for the weapon. So, you can figure that the full-auto weapons are worth about as much as the semi-auto versions - if registration wasn't a factor.

PTK · May 13, 2010, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skans

First, no weapons from Pakistan can be shipped to the US, or the other way around.

That is incorrect. I have in my possession a rifle imported from Pakistan, made in 1871.

Firepower! · May 13, 2010, 01:56 PM

If that is the case, PTK, then you probably know the procedure. I think there are quiete a few antiques floating in the market that can probably be exported.

PTK · May 13, 2010, 02:02 PM

Indeed. Also, makes of weapons that are muzzle-loading are allowed to be imported as well....

This truly is making me wish to visit PK again!

Firepower! · May 13, 2010, 02:09 PM

Too bad that the tribal markets are bombed and raided due this taliban mess, beacuse just about 2007-8, you could find so much of muzzle loading guns their for cheap. I remember when I went their to pick up my HK 91 and to test it out, the owner of the shop insisted that I pick up his muzzle loading guns as a gift but I refused thinking that might ential some other story, as these are sometimes selling gimicks.

Skans · May 13, 2010, 03:46 PM

Quote:

First, no weapons from Pakistan can be shipped to the US, or the other way around.

Since this is the NFA board, I ASSUMED that everyone knew that we are not talking about antiques, muzzle loaders, knives, or billy clubs.

April 29, 2010, 12:22 PM	#1
Firepower! Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2008 Posts: 2,109	Full auto weapon query. Hi I am just curious as to how much will the following full auto cost in the US: AUG AUG Commando M4 M4A1 Stichken APS Beretta 93R Glock 18 AK47 UZI MP5 MP5K Galil Please feel free to give price on other full autos as this thread may be able to serve price questions that folks may have in mind. Thanks

April 29, 2010, 02:59 PM	#2
1911rocks Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2006 Posts: 424	Culling the list AUG AUG Commando --- Foreign manufacture neither can be transferred to a civilian M4 M4A1 -- Came after 1986 Can't be transferred to an Icivilian Stichken APS--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian Beretta 93R--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian Glock 18--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian AK47--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian UZI--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian MP5--The Early ones were foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an individual anything after 1986 can't be transferred to an civilian anyway MP5K--The Early ones were foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an individual anything after 1986 can't be transferred to an civilian anyway Galil--Foreign manufacture can't be transferred to an civilian

April 29, 2010, 03:48 PM	#3
B. Lahey Senior Member Join Date: March 17, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,857	Sorry, 1911, you are wrong. The foreign weirdness deals with importation, not transfer of guns already in the country. I think the only ones on the list that are flat-out unavailable are the Glock 18 and maybe the Stechkin. I'm pretty sure the only real Glock 18s in the US are dealer-samples. There may be a few 17 conversions that snuck in before 1986. There may be a few Stechkins floating around, but I have never seen one or heard of one being sold. 93Rs are beyond rare. I think there are a two or three transferable 93Rs in the US, the last one sold brought upwards of $100,000 as I remember it. Lots of people have built M4ish rifles out of transferable M16 parts, so those are cheaper, although not quite the real deal. Transferable Kalashnikovs are also megabucks guns. Not many around, everyone wants one, supply and demand. Not many made it into the country before 86 except a few Vietnam bringbacks. Uzis and MP5s are lots cheaper, you see them for sale all the time. Check out the NFA section of Gunbroker. __________________ "A human being is primarily a bag for putting food into; the other functions and faculties may be more godlike, but in point of time they come afterwards." -George Orwell

April 29, 2010, 10:53 PM	#5
Austin Cowart Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: Lumberton, Texas Posts: 118	gosh The OP is in Pakistan! Thats why he wants to know the US Prices!!! AUG non dealer sample $1500 AUG Commando $1700 M4 $800-900 M4A1 same as m4 Stichken APS Beretta 93R Glock 18 $800 AK47 $800 UZI MP5 $1500 MP5K $1500 Galil All prices are what we paid at our gun range with Demo letters from our local CLEOs OP if you want a good fix on prices check out http://www.policeguns.com/catalog/in...p?cPath=35_271 Clyde deals in alot of police full autos and dang i havent ben to his site in a while his prices went up! __________________ Clothes make the person. Naked people have little or no influence in society.- Mark Twain

May 1, 2010, 10:55 PM	#7
predator86 Senior Member Join Date: November 2, 2007 Location: wisconsin Posts: 549	did i just hear someone volunteer to be a pack mule?? it might be a little warm over there to volunteer to carry firepower's arsenal... __________________ Beware the man with one gun.

April 29, 2010, 10:32 PM	#4
David Hineline Senior Member Join Date: December 23, 1999 Location: South Sioux City, Nebraska Posts: 704	Imported machineguns were banned in 1968 but plenty of imported semi autos were converted to full auto once in the US and those were available as US made guns till 1986.

April 29, 2010, 11:30 PM	#6
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	Dear firepower, You own a lot of guns. You have only two hands/arms/trigger fingers. I can help you out.

May 2, 2010, 12:33 PM	#8
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	If you are talking transferable... Many of these guns were made from semi autos registered as machineguns before 86. AUG AUG Commando --I have never seen one, I don't know the price. M4 M4A1 --Between $10,000 to $20,000 depending on the collector value of the lower. Stichken APS -- I don't think there are any in the registry. Beretta 93R -- Very few of these were made in America. I saw a Taurus clone of one sell for over $40,000 a few years ago Glock 18 -- Post 86 gun. None are transferable. AK47 -- I recently saw a Polytech that had been converted sell for $14,500 and one that had been converted to Krinkov length sell for $19,000. UZI -- Between $5,500 to $8,000 depending on who did the work. Mini Uzis are always top dollar. MP5 -- $18,000 More if it was converted to a SD. MP5K -- $22,000 Galil -- $20,000 Some of these guns I have not seen for sale for a few years, I am going on memory. Prices may have changed to to fluctuations in the market. __________________ "9mm has a very long history of being a pointy little bullet moving quickly" --Sevens

May 2, 2010, 02:03 PM	#9
johnwilliamson062 Junior member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 9,995	hot or not, I can hang targets, pick up brass, make coffee AND pull triggers.

May 13, 2010, 09:44 AM	#10
Firepower! Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2008 Posts: 2,109	lol...I am sure we can have some fun. Well looking those prices I dont feel bad paying for full autos here. There are about the half what is listed above, generally.

May 13, 2010, 11:15 AM	#12
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	You can't possibly compare US prices of full-auto weapons to what they would sell for in Pakistan. First, no weapons from Pakistan can be shipped to the US, or the other way around. Second, the high dollar cost of full auto weapons is due to registration. These same weapons, unregsitered, if they were to be sold on the US black market (highly illegal) would cost a tiny fraction of what legally regsitered ones do. You're paying for the registration, not so much for the weapon. So, you can figure that the full-auto weapons are worth about as much as the semi-auto versions - if registration wasn't a factor.

May 13, 2010, 01:56 PM	#14
Firepower! Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2008 Posts: 2,109	If that is the case, PTK, then you probably know the procedure. I think there are quiete a few antiques floating in the market that can probably be exported.

May 13, 2010, 02:02 PM	#15
PTK Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Posts: 442	Indeed. Also, makes of weapons that are muzzle-loading are allowed to be imported as well.... This truly is making me wish to visit PK again!

May 13, 2010, 02:09 PM	#16
Firepower! Senior Member Join Date: February 3, 2008 Posts: 2,109	Too bad that the tribal markets are bombed and raided due this taliban mess, beacuse just about 2007-8, you could find so much of muzzle loading guns their for cheap. I remember when I went their to pick up my HK 91 and to test it out, the owner of the shop insisted that I pick up his muzzle loading guns as a gift but I refused thinking that might ential some other story, as these are sometimes selling gimicks.

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