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Old November 25, 2014, 11:35 AM   #26
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Just curious: what is it about this model/design/platform that makes a .22version so appealing?
As a kit gun I think it would be great: inexpensive, lightweight, adjustable sights, 8 shots cylinder, alot cheaper than a S&W 317 3'' and S&W 63 3''.
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Old November 25, 2014, 01:05 PM   #27
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what is it about this model/design/platform that makes a .22version so appealing?
As pointed out it's very light and inexpensive. Before Ruger reintroduced the .22lr SP101 and the .22lr LCR just about the only current manufactured .22 DA revolvers were made by S&W and are pretty expensive, more than most people wanted to pay for a .22lr range toy.
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Old November 25, 2014, 01:11 PM   #28
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I know folks rave about the DA on these, but my wife's .22LR LCR has a pretty stiff DA trigger; certainly nothing to get excited about, IMHO. I'd call it 'barely acceptable', to be honest.


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Old November 25, 2014, 01:22 PM   #29
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I know folks rave about the DA on these, but my wife's .22LR LCR has a pretty stiff DA trigger
The .22 models have different lockwork than the .38/.357 models, resulting in a heavier trigger. The centerfire guns actually have a great DA pull.
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Old November 25, 2014, 04:09 PM   #30
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I figured they'd come out with something like this. I don't like the look of the grips, if I could change them out that would be nice.

I'm holding out for a 4 inch, 6 shot .357 in the LCRx platform. With all the new lines Ruger has said.they'll be coming out with, hopefully that will be in the lineup
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Old November 25, 2014, 04:34 PM   #31
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As pointed out it's very light and inexpensive. Before Ruger reintroduced the .22lr SP101 and the .22lr LCR just about the only current manufactured .22 DA revolvers were made by S&W and are pretty expensive, more than most people wanted to pay for a .22lr range toy.
I suppose I still struggle with the idea of a "kit gun". Just a gun you chuck in a camping bag?

Given my storage limits, I still haven't got in the frame of mind of thinking about guns purely for the "fun to own" factor rather than "must fill a purpose" factor. If I started thinking that way, I'd just get upset!!

Still, for some reason, .22WMR still intrigues me immensely, so I suppose I'd like to see one of those on sale.

In the meantime, that .38 has still grown on me.
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Old November 25, 2014, 04:53 PM   #32
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A .22 version would make a great kit gun, or even defense gun w/ 40 grain mini mags.

I'd take an 8 shooter with those vs. a 5 shooter with .38s any day. .22 LR is just as effective as .38 special in that short of barrel length.
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Old November 25, 2014, 06:51 PM   #33
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I suppose I still struggle with the idea of a "kit gun". Just a gun you chick in a camping bag?
Yeah, just kind of a Swiss Army Knife type gun that you can throw in a hiking bag, fishing box, or whatever, and it would be useful for anything from hunting small critters to varmint control to even self defense. Not so big they take up a lot of real estate but not so small they're hard to handle.

The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of this 3" LCR. I hope they can make it to market soon.
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Old November 25, 2014, 07:01 PM   #34
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Um, not so sure about 38 being the ballistic equivalent of a 40 grain 22 given the short barrel!
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Old November 25, 2014, 07:19 PM   #35
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Elerius said; "I'm holding out for a 4 inch, 6 shot .357 in the LCRx platform. With all the new lines Ruger has said.they'll be coming out with, hopefully that will be in the lineup"

Im with you! A 4" .357 would be awesome in a light frame like the LCR. I would buy one no matter the price!!!
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Old November 25, 2014, 08:41 PM   #36
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I'm holding out for a 4 inch, 6 shot .357 in the LCRx platform.
Unfortunately it's not possible. They would have to design a whole new gun for that as it would take a larger cylinder, there is not enough room to squeeze another round in the LCR unless you drop down to a smaller caliber like the .32. Your best bet for a 6 shot would be a .327 magnum which they have done with the SP101's and J frames.
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Old November 25, 2014, 10:54 PM   #37
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Man that thing is starting to really look like the 412 rex... hint hint ruger.
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Old November 25, 2014, 11:12 PM   #38
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327 Fed Mag?

Another chance Ruger!

Lots of folks still looking for an affordable 327 Fed magnum. All the old out-of-production 327 mag's are going for 1k or better.
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Old November 25, 2014, 11:38 PM   #39
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Another chance Ruger!

Lots of folks still looking for an affordable 327 Fed magnum. All the old out-of-production 327 mag's are going for 1k or better.
Yes, except for the fact that the SAAMI pressure standard for the 327 Federal is 45,000PSI vs the 35,000PSI of the 357 Magnum. That would require a larger frame to hold a more beefed up cylinder.
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Old November 26, 2014, 11:21 AM   #40
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...the SAAMI pressure standard for the 327 Federal is 45,000PSI vs the 35,000PSI of the 357 Magnum. That would require a larger frame to hold a more beefed up cylinder.
My suspicion is that if a safe .327Mag LCR were feasible, Ruger would have offered it already.

As with Cheapshooter, I don't think this idea is going to happen unless and until Ruger offers an LCR-type gun on a larger frame, perhaps S&W K frame size, and IMHO this isn't going to happen unless Ruger decides to simultaneously can the SP101. Otherwise, they may suffer what I've heard described as the General Motors effect- excessively similar product lines cannibalizing each others' sales- and I think Ruger's marketing folks are too smart to let this happen.
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Old November 26, 2014, 04:21 PM   #41
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Yes, except for the fact that the SAAMI pressure standard for the 327 Federal is 45,000PSI vs the 35,000PSI of the 357 Magnum. That would require a larger frame to hold a more beefed up cylinder.
Good point, with that said though I wonder if they made the .327 a 5 shot vs a 6 shot in the LCR cylinder if it would be enough. But at the same time, if you are going to have a 5 shot, than it makes more sense to just stick with the .357 as the advantage of the .327 in my mind is squeezing an extra round in.
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Old November 26, 2014, 04:51 PM   #42
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I guess what I mean would be a larger version of the LCRx with 6 shots of .357. The "K" or "L" frame version
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Old November 26, 2014, 05:33 PM   #43
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I saw one on Gunbroker this morning and Davidson's showed 45 arriving at their dock today... at least we won't have to wait.
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Old November 26, 2014, 06:20 PM   #44
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Handled one of these new 3 inchers today. Very intrigued but it appears that Ruger has maintained the use of the original short ejector rod - not sure I understand that one....
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Old November 26, 2014, 10:57 PM   #45
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Very intrigued but it appears that Ruger has maintained the use of the original short ejector rod - not sure I understand that one....
Yeah, kinda weird. If they're going to make a new barrel and lockwork with an exposed hammer, you'd think another half inch of ejector rod would be a piece of cake.
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Old November 27, 2014, 08:54 AM   #46
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I had a chance to dry fire one at my LGS. It has a nice trigger. It is also very lightweight for a 3" gun. Easy to carry and conceal. However, it is uuuuugly !!!
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Old November 27, 2014, 07:07 PM   #47
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Interesting . . . .

I used to carry a 357 LCR . . it shot well and was an easy carry due to weight. I traded it off on a Smith Model 36 as I just prefer the 36 (nothing against Ruger - I own three other Ruger handguns)

I went to the site and checked it out but couldn't find an answer to what I was thinking about - anyone know if this is a DAOor or with the exposed hammer, can it be fired in SA?

I have both a Smith Model 36 snub and a 3". To me, a 3" is an ideal barrel length - especially on a "kit gun". I can't help but believe that if this 3" sells well (and I think it will) that they will be making it available in 22 as well.

For those that like it as a "kit gun" but would like it in 22 - if you reload, just remember that you could also load 38 Colt Short and 38 Colt Long for it if you don't want a full power 39 spl or 38 +P for woods walking. I reload and likek to load all three - 38 Colt Long/Short and 38 Spl. I shoot a lot of 38 Shorts for general plinking. I only shoot cast. The Colt Short with a 120 gr lead bullet over 2 gr of Bulls Eye or 2.2 grains of Red Dot makes a fun plinking round and a great round to carry in the woods. Just another option . . . .

I haven't seen one of those in a LGS yet but look forward to taking a look at one.
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Old November 27, 2014, 08:00 PM   #48
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If .327 pressures are too much, I'd happily buy two in .32 h&r magnum. I'm still kicking myself for passing up the old SP101 in .32 mag.
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Old November 27, 2014, 08:05 PM   #49
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...anyone know if this is a DAOor or with the exposed hammer, can it be fired in SA?
My 2" LCR X is DA/SA, and River's Spec Sheet for the 3" has the following statement:
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Old November 28, 2014, 02:06 PM   #50
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But the recently introduced 9MM is not the x model (exposed hammer), it has a snubbie barrel, and is without the adjustable sights.
Unless of course you have some inside information.
Let’s see,,, the 9mm version is sold as an LCR.
And lo and behold the 38 +p is also marked right on the barrel as a LCR.
So no I don’t have any insider information,,, I can read.
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