(UK) Farmer menaced with death threats....police turn up to confiscate her shotguns

Drizzt · April 27, 2011, 02:23 PM

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...etaliates.html

Having confronted travellers cutting down trees on her farm, terminally-ill Tracy St Clair Pearce found herself subjected to a terrifying ordeal.
Some of the group pelted her with rocks while a youth threatened to slit her throat and slaughter her cattle.

When she dialled 999 she expected the full weight of the law to be on her side.

Instead, however, police officers criticised her for inflaming the situation and confiscated her legally held shotguns – even though they had been locked away in a cabinet at home throughout the incident.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1KkkGyGP3

aarondhgraham · April 27, 2011, 02:52 PM

If anyone expects different from our UK brethren,,,
They are completely out of touch with reality.

Aarond

overkill0084 · April 27, 2011, 02:52 PM

Sounds like the UK. Stationed there for 5 years.
I used to like reading the Magistrates reports in the local paper. One person crime waves would walk out the door w/ a fine. Do not injure the burglar carrying stuff out of your house, he will likely press charges. No joke.

MLeake · April 27, 2011, 03:00 PM

Defending oneself with a closed fist can get one in trouble in Italy; supposed to fend off purse-snatchers and pick pockets with open palms...

A lot of things in Europe are very, very backwards.

And if we stop paying for their defense bill, they may not be so "progressive" with their social programs, either. Then, they'll just be stuck with a nanny state mentality and no actual benefits.

SVO · April 27, 2011, 03:25 PM

I'm not surprised at this. The British, in my experience, seem to view things a half bubble off from what we Americans do. My ex was from Oxford. She, her family and friends that I ever met were all very anti-gun, Maybe that's why she's my ex, but bottom line, the Brits do things different from us Americans. Different cultures with different views and experiences. I was reading recently about house squatters in London and the problems they cause. According to the article, a person finds an un-occupied house, they can break in, set up house and have all the rights as if they were the legal owners. If you can cause legal problems for someone who legally owns a house, no surprise about causing legal problems for someone who legally owns firearms. The effects of having no 2nd Amendment rights in their history. If you want to perplex a Brit, tell them that gun control led to the American Revolution.

Eghad · April 27, 2011, 03:41 PM

After reading where a guy in a English pub was arrested for singing Kung Fu Fighting because a person got offended this does not suprise me.

MLeake · April 27, 2011, 03:46 PM

I guess Orwell was ahead of himself by 27 years or so...

armoredman · April 27, 2011, 04:15 PM

Just when you can't imagine it getting any stupider - we should get a fund together to move her here, maybe what's terminal in Socialist UK ain't so here in the US...

MLeake · April 27, 2011, 04:18 PM

Nice thought, armoredman, but cancer that metastasizes to the spine is usually fatal; metastasizing to the lymph system is also bad news.

My best friend's mother died of what would have been treatable lung cancer, that metastasized to the spine and bones.

This situation just adds one more burden for that poor lady in the UK.

BGutzman · April 27, 2011, 05:55 PM

The UK crazyness will keep going until the people have had enough and vote the bums out and change the laws.

csmsss · April 27, 2011, 09:35 PM

UK also has one problem we do not - gypsies. Sure sounds like that's what this lady encountered. And the UK cops are scared to death of them.

egor20 · April 27, 2011, 09:41 PM

My wife Hates going back to England, even to visit, she's been trying to get her father to move over here for years.

Al Norris · April 27, 2011, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csmsss

UK also has one problem we do not - gypsies.

Not true at all. In the US, they are simply called "Travelers," as they were in the UK article.

Morris T. Mullins, who was 17 in May, 2001, raped and murdered my Aunt in Richfield, UT. The guy was part of a group known as "Travelers" who had "camped" just outside of town and were doing odd jobs within the community. Once Morris was apprehended, all the "Travelers," including Mullins own parents, left town and dispersed. Presumably to the four winds, as local LE couldn't find them.

That experience (and the trial of Mullins) leads me to believe the account given by Tracy St Clair Pearce.

Drizzt · April 27, 2011, 10:52 PM

What Al said is very true. Do a search for 'Irish Travellers' on the web, as that is what I have found most of them grouped under. The United States has one of the largest communities of these folks and their cons, scams, and crimes are well documented. Please don't think we are safe from them, especially in the South.

BlueTrain · April 28, 2011, 06:26 AM

Not to pick a fight or anything but I think Birmingham, England, is safer than Birmingham, Alabama, but so is El Paso, Texas.

In England, the right to bear arms means the right to display armorial bearing, a coat of arms.

April 27, 2011, 02:23 PM	#1
Drizzt Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2000 Location: Moscow on the Colorado, TX Posts: 2,560	(UK) Farmer menaced with death threats....police turn up to confiscate her shotguns http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...etaliates.html Having confronted travellers cutting down trees on her farm, terminally-ill Tracy St Clair Pearce found herself subjected to a terrifying ordeal. Some of the group pelted her with rocks while a youth threatened to slit her throat and slaughter her cattle. When she dialled 999 she expected the full weight of the law to be on her side. Instead, however, police officers criticised her for inflaming the situation and confiscated her legally held shotguns – even though they had been locked away in a cabinet at home throughout the incident. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz1KkkGyGP3 __________________ "That a free citizen should have to go before a committee, hat in hand, and pray for permission to bear arms - fantastic! Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats." Robert Heinlein - Red Planet

April 27, 2011, 02:52 PM	#2
aarondhgraham Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2009 Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma Posts: 8,638	If anyone expects different from our UK brethren,,, They are completely out of touch with reality. Aarond __________________ Never ever give an enemy the advantage of a verbal threat. Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once. Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it? Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)

April 27, 2011, 02:52 PM	#3
overkill0084 Senior Member Join Date: August 7, 2010 Location: Northern, UT Posts: 1,162	Sounds like the UK. Stationed there for 5 years. I used to like reading the Magistrates reports in the local paper. One person crime waves would walk out the door w/ a fine. Do not injure the burglar carrying stuff out of your house, he will likely press charges. No joke. __________________ Cheers, Greg “At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child – miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats.” — P.J. O’Rourke

April 27, 2011, 03:41 PM	#6
Eghad Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 6,231	After reading where a guy in a English pub was arrested for singing Kung Fu Fighting because a person got offended this does not suprise me. __________________ Have a nice day at the range NRA Life Member

April 27, 2011, 05:55 PM	#10
BGutzman Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 2009 Location: Frozen Tundra Posts: 2,414	The UK crazyness will keep going until the people have had enough and vote the bums out and change the laws. __________________ Molon Labe

April 27, 2011, 03:00 PM	#4
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Defending oneself with a closed fist can get one in trouble in Italy; supposed to fend off purse-snatchers and pick pockets with open palms... A lot of things in Europe are very, very backwards. And if we stop paying for their defense bill, they may not be so "progressive" with their social programs, either. Then, they'll just be stuck with a nanny state mentality and no actual benefits.

April 27, 2011, 03:25 PM	#5
SVO Senior Member Join Date: December 20, 2009 Location: Texas Gulf Coast Posts: 728	I'm not surprised at this. The British, in my experience, seem to view things a half bubble off from what we Americans do. My ex was from Oxford. She, her family and friends that I ever met were all very anti-gun, Maybe that's why she's my ex, but bottom line, the Brits do things different from us Americans. Different cultures with different views and experiences. I was reading recently about house squatters in London and the problems they cause. According to the article, a person finds an un-occupied house, they can break in, set up house and have all the rights as if they were the legal owners. If you can cause legal problems for someone who legally owns a house, no surprise about causing legal problems for someone who legally owns firearms. The effects of having no 2nd Amendment rights in their history. If you want to perplex a Brit, tell them that gun control led to the American Revolution.

April 27, 2011, 03:46 PM	#7
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	I guess Orwell was ahead of himself by 27 years or so...

April 27, 2011, 04:15 PM	#8
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,297	Just when you can't imagine it getting any stupider - we should get a fund together to move her here, maybe what's terminal in Socialist UK ain't so here in the US...

April 27, 2011, 04:18 PM	#9
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 10,128	Nice thought, armoredman, but cancer that metastasizes to the spine is usually fatal; metastasizing to the lymph system is also bad news. My best friend's mother died of what would have been treatable lung cancer, that metastasized to the spine and bones. This situation just adds one more burden for that poor lady in the UK.

April 27, 2011, 09:35 PM	#11
csmsss Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Orange, TX Posts: 3,078	UK also has one problem we do not - gypsies. Sure sounds like that's what this lady encountered. And the UK cops are scared to death of them.

April 27, 2011, 09:41 PM	#12
egor20 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,824	My wife Hates going back to England, even to visit, she's been trying to get her father to move over here for years. __________________ Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand

April 27, 2011, 10:52 PM	#14
Drizzt Senior Member Join Date: October 25, 2000 Location: Moscow on the Colorado, TX Posts: 2,560	What Al said is very true. Do a search for 'Irish Travellers' on the web, as that is what I have found most of them grouped under. The United States has one of the largest communities of these folks and their cons, scams, and crimes are well documented. Please don't think we are safe from them, especially in the South. __________________ "That a free citizen should have to go before a committee, hat in hand, and pray for permission to bear arms - fantastic! Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats." Robert Heinlein - Red Planet

April 28, 2011, 06:26 AM	#15
BlueTrain Senior Member Join Date: September 26, 2005 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 6,141	Not to pick a fight or anything but I think Birmingham, England, is safer than Birmingham, Alabama, but so is El Paso, Texas. In England, the right to bear arms means the right to display armorial bearing, a coat of arms. __________________ Shoot low, sheriff. They're riding Shetlands! Underneath the starry flag, civilize 'em with a Krag, and return us to our own beloved homes! Buy War Bonds.

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