140 grain XTP and Unique...?

Stargazer · May 15, 2007, 10:53 PM

Anyone ever use the 140 grain XTP with Unique? Any load data on line for this bullet/powder combination?

amamnn · May 15, 2007, 11:18 PM

If you are talking about the Hornady 140 gr XTP in a .38 special, Hornady lists loads for Unique in the current manual. I didn't see Unique listed for .357 mag. loads.

joneb · May 16, 2007, 07:16 PM

What caliber and chambering ? My ESP ain't what it use to be

Stargazer · May 16, 2007, 07:45 PM

That caliber and weapon was missing there, wasn't it. .357 magnum as the caliber and a S&W 686 4" and Marlin 16" lever action as the weapons.

Shoney · May 16, 2007, 07:55 PM

For all the info that's fit to read, and some that aint:
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Index.htm

Trapper L · May 16, 2007, 09:41 PM

In the Speer manual#13, they show 8.0 grs Unique as a max loading for their 140 gr HP. Velocity is 1185'ps out of a Model 19 with a 6" barrel. Starting load was 7.2 grs with velocity at 1086'ps. For the Marlin, this will be a weak load as the Unique will be expended before the bullet leaves the barrel. You would be better served using a slower powder like H110, 296, etc. But if you want to stay with one powder and one load, it will work. The 140s are a favorite bullet weight in my 357 mags.

Stargazer · May 16, 2007, 10:40 PM

Thanks Trapper, I had found a few recipes on the web and saw that 8 grains was max on Unique. I am running 7.7 grains with 158's right now so the 140 weight ones will be a nice change. I do realize that I will be under max on the rifle, powder wise, but I can have some hot rounds for it if needed for hunting. Same thing with the revolver, (1000) rounds from a pound of powder just makes more sense for the amount of shooting I do. And this load with 158's or 140's is not a wimpy one either, just not fully maxed out that other powders would do. Thanks everybody!

joneb · May 16, 2007, 10:51 PM

AA#9 and Blue Dot may be worth a try.

May 15, 2007, 11:18 PM	#2
amamnn Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2006 Location: WA, the left armpit of the USA Posts: 1,323	If you are talking about the Hornady 140 gr XTP in a .38 special, Hornady lists loads for Unique in the current manual. I didn't see Unique listed for .357 mag. loads. __________________ "If the enemy is in range, so are you." - Infantry Journal

May 16, 2007, 07:45 PM	#4
Stargazer Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 506	That caliber and weapon was missing there, wasn't it. .357 magnum as the caliber and a S&W 686 4" and Marlin 16" lever action as the weapons. __________________ 5.56mm, reach out and touch something. .458 SOCOM,reach out and knock something down. M70 Web Page

May 16, 2007, 07:55 PM	#5
Shoney Senior Member Join Date: February 21, 2002 Location: Transplanted from Montana Posts: 2,311	For all the info that's fit to read, and some that aint: http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/Index.htm __________________ I pledge allegiance to the Flag - - -, and to the Republic for which it stands….Our Forefathers were brilliant for giving us a Republic, not a democracy! Do you know the difference??? and WHY?http://www.wallbuilders.com/LIBissue...les.asp?id=111

May 16, 2007, 10:40 PM	#7
Stargazer Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 506	Thanks Trapper, I had found a few recipes on the web and saw that 8 grains was max on Unique. I am running 7.7 grains with 158's right now so the 140 weight ones will be a nice change. I do realize that I will be under max on the rifle, powder wise, but I can have some hot rounds for it if needed for hunting. Same thing with the revolver, (1000) rounds from a pound of powder just makes more sense for the amount of shooting I do. And this load with 158's or 140's is not a wimpy one either, just not fully maxed out that other powders would do. Thanks everybody! __________________ 5.56mm, reach out and touch something. .458 SOCOM,reach out and knock something down. M70 Web Page

May 15, 2007, 10:53 PM	#1
Stargazer Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2006 Location: Republic of Texas Posts: 506	140 grain XTP and Unique...? Anyone ever use the 140 grain XTP with Unique? Any load data on line for this bullet/powder combination? __________________ 5.56mm, reach out and touch something. .458 SOCOM,reach out and knock something down. M70 Web Page

May 16, 2007, 07:16 PM	#3
joneb Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2005 Location: Central , OR Posts: 1,888	What caliber and chambering ? My ESP ain't what it use to be

May 16, 2007, 09:41 PM	#6
Trapper L Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2006 Location: South Texas Posts: 804	In the Speer manual#13, they show 8.0 grs Unique as a max loading for their 140 gr HP. Velocity is 1185'ps out of a Model 19 with a 6" barrel. Starting load was 7.2 grs with velocity at 1086'ps. For the Marlin, this will be a weak load as the Unique will be expended before the bullet leaves the barrel. You would be better served using a slower powder like H110, 296, etc. But if you want to stay with one powder and one load, it will work. The 140s are a favorite bullet weight in my 357 mags.

May 16, 2007, 10:51 PM	#8
joneb Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 2005 Location: Central , OR Posts: 1,888	AA#9 and Blue Dot may be worth a try.