Bad W209 Primers

TheKlawMan · July 18, 2012, 05:47 PM

I just had another FTF with a W209 primer. There was nothing wrong with the loading of the hull (a Winhester Hull in very good conditon with a CB knock off of a Win wad, a Win Primer, and recently purchased Promo powder all loaded per a published recipe). It wouldn't work in either the upper or lower barrel of my Citori. That is now 4 faiilures in less than 3,400 primers out of the same sleeve of 5,000. The lot number is EBL306. I tried calling Winchester about what gives and it closed for the day as I was on hold so I will call again tomorrow, but from all the responses I got to a similar thread a few weeks ago failures to fire are extremely rare.

mete · July 18, 2012, 08:47 PM

There can be bad primers just like bad brass, bullets etc.
Actually that's a small percentage. My one experience with bad primers was 1 in 12 ! [excesssive pressure ] .

340 Weatherby · July 19, 2012, 12:05 AM

Klawman! Stop spilling Scotch on the primer tray!

TheKlawMan · July 19, 2012, 12:21 AM

Hey! Ken is telling me that I should down some Scotch if I want to shoot decently.

hogdogs · July 19, 2012, 08:12 AM

Drink scotch before shooting... But not when reloading shells... That would be dangerous...

Brent

BigJimP · July 19, 2012, 12:52 PM

....you guys just caused me to spit coffee up thru my nose I was laughing so loud.......geez....

( scotch when you're reloading ....my word ....).. everybody knows its Bourbon.....

PJR · July 22, 2012, 07:17 AM

While rare it does happen. Over the years I've had more failures with Winchester primers and ammo than any other brand. Let us know what Winchester says when you get in touch with them. Their responses vary in my experience.

TheKlawMan · July 22, 2012, 11:16 AM

A. I have been very busy and unable to call Winchester, but will this coming week.

B. No FTF with reloading on Guinness Draft.

July 18, 2012, 05:47 PM	#1
TheKlawMan Junior member Join Date: June 23, 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 2,149	Bad W209 Primers I just had another FTF with a W209 primer. There was nothing wrong with the loading of the hull (a Winhester Hull in very good conditon with a CB knock off of a Win wad, a Win Primer, and recently purchased Promo powder all loaded per a published recipe). It wouldn't work in either the upper or lower barrel of my Citori. That is now 4 faiilures in less than 3,400 primers out of the same sleeve of 5,000. The lot number is EBL306. I tried calling Winchester about what gives and it closed for the day as I was on hold so I will call again tomorrow, but from all the responses I got to a similar thread a few weeks ago failures to fire are extremely rare.

July 18, 2012, 08:47 PM	#2
mete Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2004 Location: NY State Posts: 6,575	There can be bad primers just like bad brass, bullets etc. Actually that's a small percentage. My one experience with bad primers was 1 in 12 ! [excesssive pressure ] . __________________ And Watson , bring your revolver !

July 19, 2012, 12:05 AM	#3
340 Weatherby Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2012 Posts: 139	Klawman! Stop spilling Scotch on the primer tray!

July 19, 2012, 12:21 AM	#4
TheKlawMan Junior member Join Date: June 23, 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 2,149	Hey! Ken is telling me that I should down some Scotch if I want to shoot decently.

July 19, 2012, 08:12 AM	#5
hogdogs Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 31, 2007 Location: Western Florida panhandle Posts: 11,069	Drink scotch before shooting... But not when reloading shells... That would be dangerous... Brent

July 19, 2012, 12:52 PM	#6
BigJimP Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2005 Posts: 13,195	....you guys just caused me to spit coffee up thru my nose I was laughing so loud.......geez.... ( scotch when you're reloading ....my word ....).. everybody knows its Bourbon.....

July 22, 2012, 07:17 AM	#7
PJR Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2000 Posts: 1,127	While rare it does happen. Over the years I've had more failures with Winchester primers and ammo than any other brand. Let us know what Winchester says when you get in touch with them. Their responses vary in my experience.

July 22, 2012, 11:16 AM	#8
TheKlawMan Junior member Join Date: June 23, 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 2,149	A. I have been very busy and unable to call Winchester, but will this coming week. B. No FTF with reloading on Guinness Draft.