dillion 650

glock 4 life · November 21, 2007, 09:46 PM

just got my new dillion 650 frist timer here need help........

can i use other dies then dillion with this press?

were should i buy my supplys from?

i shoot 9mm 45 and 223...

thanks you guys

thanks for all your help

toolguyb · November 22, 2007, 05:22 AM

Congrats, think you will enjoy your new press. Most dies are standard size and work on any press. Midway.com sells about anything you need reloading related. have fun and enjoy.

swmike · November 22, 2007, 04:46 PM

I would get the 1" die lock nuts from Dillon along with the 1" Bench Wrench". The Dillon locknuts are smaller than most stock hex nuts (LEE) and are easier to lock than the RCBS or Redding knurled rings. The wrench reaches in where a large "Craftsman" 1" wrench wouldn't fit. It also has a 7/16" hex on it for adjusting the powder measure.

GuateShooter · November 22, 2007, 09:03 PM

do not use other dillon dice, dillon dice are great and easy to set, the sizing die its the best die ever,

WESHOOT2 · November 23, 2007, 10:53 AM

I use Dillon, LEE, Hornady, Redding, Lyman, and RCBS dies on my now-only-ten toolheads.

Use LEE and Dillon rings, both over and under the toolhead.

Bolt that press into the core of the planet.
Get the roller handle.

Supplies: Grafs, Wideners, Natchez, F&M, TNT, Scharch, others.

HiPowering Along · November 23, 2007, 07:51 PM

What WESHOOT2 said, just without the ten toolhead advisory.....I'm only running two at the moment!

I'm running a combination of Dillon and Lee dies in mine at the moment - the Dillon powder charge die, and the rest Lee Carbide with the most excellent of all dies, the Lee Factory Crimp Die. Use that, and you'll never have a case not fully seat in the chamber because of a slight bulge near the casehead...

Silentarmy · November 24, 2007, 02:23 AM

I prefer Dillon dies but I use Hornady, Dillon, Lee, and RCBS. Dillon's crimp dies are the bees knees and I have purchased Just the crimp die in a few calibers and backed off my seating die so it only seats (like the Dillon does). Eventually, I will cycle out all my other brands and replace them with Dillon but at almost 2x the cost, its difficult to justify. In pistol Calibers, I use the other brands. In Rifle, ONLY Dillon will do! If you are building Match or sniper ammo, use Redding on a single stage and take your time but if you are running volume then get the Dillon dies and complete the system.

glock 4 life · November 24, 2007, 01:19 PM

this helps me out alot you guys thanks to all>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!

Tanzer · November 24, 2007, 04:38 PM

Lots of good advice here. I especially agree with;

Quote:

I would get the 1" die lock nuts from Dillon along with the 1" Bench Wrench". The Dillon locknuts are smaller than most stock hex nuts (LEE) and are easier to lock than the RCBS or Redding knurled rings. The wrench reaches in where a large "Craftsman" 1" wrench wouldn't fit. It also has a 7/16" hex on it for adjusting the powder measure

The dillon carbide dies are tops. If you have an air comperssor, all the better, just blow 'em out & give 'em a wipe. The measures never fall off on my 650, and its about 10 years old.
I really suggest extra powder measures and die heads. Yes, they're about $80, but changing calibers is SO much easier.
Get extra "little stuff" especially orifices for the primer tubes (when they go, they go). Dillon's no BS warranty is good, but you dont want down time waiting for shipping.

The following is just opinion and not necessarily the opinion of TFL;
Franklin (and I'm sure others) make good tumblers that are inexpensive. Use NU Finish car polish in your media instead of the expensive cleaner (no wax). Chuck in a few 2" squares of dryer sheets and you'll find they act like a lead magnet, and your brass will smell nice, too. Always do this in a ventilated area, wear gloves and even a mask. Lead airation is no joke.
Steal a tupperware bowl from the wife and drill a million holes in the bottom, & you've got a media seperater that's better than anything out there. Steal a pair of nylons from the same wife (hopefully) and use it to wash dirty media, then dry on stolen sheet pans. Buy Nylons, sheet pans and tupperware for wife's Christmas presents.
I handle Rifle cartriges differently;
Clean the heck out of them, especially the neck with a bronze barrel brush - up to you to learn about trimming etc, then tumble them. You may not be able to find a carbide die set (I couldn't for 270 WSM), so you will need to lube them. I Lube, then set primers only and wipe them down. This way you don't get a gunky mess with the powder. Now just run them through the powder and seating die and marvel at your work. Last but not least, and some will disagree, I always tumble the finished cartriges for about 10-15 minutes to remove the lube.
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November 21, 2007, 09:46 PM	#1
glock 4 life Junior Member Join Date: August 10, 2007 Posts: 3	dillion 650 just got my new dillion 650 frist timer here need help........ can i use other dies then dillion with this press? were should i buy my supplys from? i shoot 9mm 45 and 223... thanks you guys thanks for all your help

November 22, 2007, 04:46 PM	#3
swmike Senior Member Join Date: June 25, 2005 Location: Marysville, WA Posts: 670	I would get the 1" die lock nuts from Dillon along with the 1" Bench Wrench". The Dillon locknuts are smaller than most stock hex nuts (LEE) and are easier to lock than the RCBS or Redding knurled rings. The wrench reaches in where a large "Craftsman" 1" wrench wouldn't fit. It also has a 7/16" hex on it for adjusting the powder measure. __________________ My definition of Gun Control--- A steady grip and hitting your target. "In God we trust, all others are suspects." "If I shoot all the ammo I am carrying, either I won't need any more, or more won't be of any help". ____________________________________________

November 23, 2007, 10:53 AM	#5
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	made a few rds on mine I use Dillon, LEE, Hornady, Redding, Lyman, and RCBS dies on my now-only-ten toolheads. Use LEE and Dillon rings, both over and under the toolhead. Bolt that press into the core of the planet. Get the roller handle. Supplies: Grafs, Wideners, Natchez, F&M, TNT, Scharch, others. __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

November 23, 2007, 07:51 PM	#6
HiPowering Along Senior Member Join Date: January 1, 2006 Location: PA - Land of taxes, potholes and unfortunately Ed "Gun Grabbin' Fast Eddie" Rendell Posts: 254	What WESHOOT2 said, just without the ten toolhead advisory.....I'm only running two at the moment! I'm running a combination of Dillon and Lee dies in mine at the moment - the Dillon powder charge die, and the rest Lee Carbide with the most excellent of all dies, the Lee Factory Crimp Die. Use that, and you'll never have a case not fully seat in the chamber because of a slight bulge near the casehead... __________________ HP'ing Along - - - - - - - - - - - - - *"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."* - One of the greatest sentences ever written into an instrument of democracy.

November 24, 2007, 02:23 AM	#7
Silentarmy Senior Member Join Date: August 13, 2007 Location: Bountiful, Utah Posts: 355	I prefer Dillon dies but I use Hornady, Dillon, Lee, and RCBS. Dillon's crimp dies are the bees knees and I have purchased Just the crimp die in a few calibers and backed off my seating die so it only seats (like the Dillon does). Eventually, I will cycle out all my other brands and replace them with Dillon but at almost 2x the cost, its difficult to justify. In pistol Calibers, I use the other brands. In Rifle, ONLY Dillon will do! If you are building Match or sniper ammo, use Redding on a single stage and take your time but if you are running volume then get the Dillon dies and complete the system. __________________ "No one will Ever buy that PLASTIC gun!" Steve Gallenson, Early 1980's "Those Who live by the sword get Shot by those of us who don't" "What we learn from History is that we do not learn from History!"

November 22, 2007, 05:22 AM	#2
toolguyb Member Join Date: March 1, 2006 Posts: 73	Congrats, think you will enjoy your new press. Most dies are standard size and work on any press. Midway.com sells about anything you need reloading related. have fun and enjoy.

November 22, 2007, 09:03 PM	#4
GuateShooter Senior Member Join Date: October 17, 2007 Location: Guatemala Posts: 137	do not use other dillon dice, dillon dice are great and easy to set, the sizing die its the best die ever,

November 24, 2007, 01:19 PM	#8
glock 4 life Junior Member Join Date: August 10, 2007 Posts: 3	thanks this helps me out alot you guys thanks to all>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>!!!!