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May 28, 2010, 06:18 AM | #26 |
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"I don't have a .357 pistol any more, so this is just idle curiosity, but let's say you have a bunch of .38 brass and not much .357 brass. There's a lot of room inside a .38 cartridge, so could you make up a load with .357 (or nearly so) levels of performance using a .38 case?"
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May 28, 2010, 07:32 AM | #27 |
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.38 Special brass has a very short life with standard loads. They seem to develop long cracks with a few re loadings even with light loads. Pushed to higher pressures, case life will certainly be even shorter. That is why I use .357 mag. cases in my .357 even for very light loads (along with the fact that my 686 does not shoot .38 special loads very accurately.
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For example, in Newton's physics, a bullet that weighs 150 grains standing still, has that same weight traveling at 2800 fps. But Einstein tells us traveling that velocity increases its mass to 150.00000000061 grains relative to a stationary observer. We can't normally detect the resulting momentum difference in real world situations. Newton certainly had no instrumentation that would indicate the difference, or I'm sure he would have tried to account for it. Bullet-to-bullet manufacturing weight tolerances are much bigger than that. So, bottom line, the difference has no practical use to those of us who are not physicists.
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Most of the time you will be safe loading 357 level loads in 38special cases if you're going to shoot them in a 357 mag. handgun. However, if you ever get the loads mixed up, or a freind grabs a few to try in his 38 special, It could end with somone badly injured or killed. Short answer... Yes, its possible. No, its not a good idea.
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Maybe this thread needs to be closed.
It seems that most readers are completely missing the OP's actual question, and posting answers to a common debate THAT THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT. Since that other issue has been the subject of several other recent posts, this one has gotten pretty useless.
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That said, the case won't limit you, although it wear out a bit sooner than .357 brass. |
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PLEASE - - Try out the "SEARCH" feature
".357 loads in .38 cases" or "magnum loads in .38 cases" or variations of that theme will get you links to several lengthy discussions. We seem to get one of these threads every few months. And, they always end up the same way: The guys who want to do it end up saying, "Well, I'm a-gonna do it ANYWAYS and you cain't stop me." And, even the more conservative particiants cannot gainsay that Skeeter and Elmer and who-knows-who-else were doin' it back in nineteen-aught-forty-nine.
Yeah, there was a time when magnum revolvers were hard to find and were horribly expensive when they could be located. Further, .357 brass USED TO BE scarce and hard to locate. Friends, that was then, this is now. Neither the revolvers nor the brass are hard to find now, and, making allowances for inflation across the decades, the cost-per-unit-per-hours-worked-to-earn -the-price is actually lower today than it was then. Another tidbit: there are a LOT of aluminum alloy framed revolvers in circulation now, where there were few or none prior to 1950. A steel-framed S&W or Colt will take a certain amount of overloading and simply shake loose rapidly, without blowing up. You get to the blowup point a lot earlier with an Airweight Smith or a Colt's Cobra or Agent. I quit putting BIG loads in .38 Special cases when I decided I didn't want to be responsible for dropping a megaload cartridge at the range and causing injury to the person finding it. Anyway, this topic has been pretty well thrashed out by now. The thread is CLOSED. |
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