What's the most rugged handgun in the world? - Page 4

mavracer · August 25, 2011, 11:26 AM

This one visited some hostile climates a few years ago and it's abilities have diminished about 0.00% after 93 years. I'd bet the farm it'll be going long after I'm dead.

COLT_45 · August 25, 2011, 12:10 PM

A Ruger Blackhawk Comes To Mind.....

TylerD45ACP · August 25, 2011, 02:20 PM

The 1911A1 that has worked 100+ years. Best pistol and caliber.

WVsig · August 25, 2011, 02:26 PM

Of the guns I have personally owned these come to mind:

Glock 19 or 17
CZ 75B
Sig P226
1911 properly built
BHP

Sharpsdressed Man · August 25, 2011, 07:41 PM

Load it down to .44 Magnum energy and it should last forever. [IMG]

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PT-92 · August 25, 2011, 07:44 PM

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Sharpsdressed Man wrote:

Load it down to .44 Magnum energy and it should last forever.

That's a mighty fine looking revolver--I have always wanted that model.

MikeNice81 · August 26, 2011, 05:03 AM

In my opinion it would be the 1911 GI service grade. My grandpa used one in Vietnam that had been originally issued in WWII. He was in the 1st Cav and saw some pretty harsh service. According to him it never failed when needed.

Nearly any gun designed to be a military sidearm and adopted for that reason by a major nation should suffice. Even some that weren't selected should do the trick. I would trust a CZ P-01 to hold up as well as a 1911 or M9 or HK USP.

Maxem0815 · August 26, 2011, 05:24 AM

Well my vote goes for the Colt 1911-A1 or the 1917 Smith or Colt revolver, in that order. The 1911 & 1911A1 as well as 1917 revolvers served in two World Wars, Korea, Viet Nam, and god knows how many smaller conflicts around the world without failure, I would say that alone is proof enough.
Mace

wrm · August 26, 2011, 05:55 AM

A 1945 M1911A1 in stainless steel :-)

Edit: What? I've been a member here for more than a year and this is my first post? Dayumn.

PT-92 · August 26, 2011, 06:49 AM

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MikeNice81 wrote:

In my opinion it would be the 1911 GI service grade. My grandpa used one in Vietnam that had been originally issued in WWII.

That certainly speaks to the absolute marvel of John Moses Browning's 1911.

Scout · August 26, 2011, 06:51 AM

That's the almost impossible question. From my personal experience I would choose the USGI M 1911 A1. There are many other fine choices, as you all know. Of the new, less steel varieties that I've had, I like the Ruger P series.

Archer 9505 · August 26, 2011, 07:45 AM

My vote is for the Springfield Armory 1911 FBI Pro Model. Only because mine is on order and a 10000 round acceptance/accuracy test.

gyvel · August 26, 2011, 07:46 AM

C'mon... It's the 1911s hands down.

Skans · August 26, 2011, 08:38 AM

For me to consider something "rugged" my criteria is:

1. it has to be highly rust resistant;
2. it can't be melted with a Bic lighter;
3. minimum number of springs;
4. least number of parts
5. no aluminum
6. it has to be over-engineered for the round used in it
7. sights have to be fixed
8. it can't be finicky about ammunition.

So, based on that, most revolvers are going to win hands down - That S&W 500 is looking like a great contender. But, you could go with a stainless S&W .357 or maybe even a Colt .357.

I've already given my semi-auto suggestion (Smith 659 - a chunk of stainless that can't be destroyed by any 9mm round), but it has a lot more parts and springs than a revolver.

chadio · August 26, 2011, 11:21 PM

The reason for the lack of SIG Sauer P226 love in this thread - it really needs lube on the slide (lack of lube was a requirement of the original post). I have no problem with that, I love my P226 and wouldn't trade it for anything. Greased and ready

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An interesting twist on the original post: of the guns recommended, which will continue to fire when limp-wristed? You never know, during a gun battle or altercation, you may lose your ability to give the proper 'grip and hold' to fire a semi-auto.. some of them are likely to jam, yet others will continue to cycle. Look up 'limp wrist' or 'limp wrist test' test on youtube - you may be surprised at what you see

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PSP · August 27, 2011, 07:57 AM

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My vote is for the Springfield Armory 1911 FBI Pro Model. Only because mine is on order and a 10000 round acceptance/accuracy test.

The reason I chose the Hk MK23 was the 30000 round, salt water immersion, reliability and accuracy tests. This is the gun that spawned the outstanding USP line but the MK23 is a whole different beast.

graysmoke · August 27, 2011, 08:33 AM

Steel Gun = Ruger Revolvers (there built like tanks)

Polymer Frame & Steel Slide = Glock (just can't hurt it)

bluetopper · August 27, 2011, 12:23 PM

Freedom Arms revolvers............but what does it matter?

microman · August 27, 2011, 01:10 PM

The indestructible Glock

Stevie-Ray · August 27, 2011, 04:16 PM

If anything is more rugged than my Redhawk, it is a either a Super Redhawk or made by Freedom Arms. In autos I'd go with a steel-framed 1911A1.

PT-92 · August 27, 2011, 04:28 PM

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Stevie-Ray wrote:

If anything is more rugged than my Redhawk, it is a either a Super Redhawk or made by Freedom Arms. In autos I'd go with a steel-framed 1911A1.

Stevie-Ray,

I agree with the steel-framed 1911 recommendation--The same applies to the M9/92/PT-92 model as well if one prefers steel-framed models in 9mm instead of .45 (I never could get used to the 9mm 1911A1--it just felt weird to me but to each their own).

Gary L. Griffiths · August 27, 2011, 09:43 PM

It passed the same tests as the M-9 Beretta, and the slide won't break and fly through your head!

BIG P · August 27, 2011, 11:25 PM

Ruger Super Red Hawk 7.5,If it gets any tuffer than that who cares.

T. O'Heir · August 27, 2011, 11:38 PM

"...passed the U.S. Military trials..." Selected for political reasons. Other NATO countries complained about the balance of trade of military kit being heavily in favour of the U.S.
No firearm will keep functioning without regular maintenance. Some tend to 'take' more abuse than others though. Stock military handguns, for example.

CLC · August 28, 2011, 12:15 AM

Nothing can destroy the mighty Glock

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August 25, 2011, 12:10 PM	#77
COLT_45 Senior Member Join Date: August 21, 2011 Posts: 157	A Ruger Blackhawk Comes To Mind..... Last edited by COLT_45; August 25, 2011 at 04:09 PM.

August 25, 2011, 02:26 PM	#79
WVsig Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2010 Location: NC Posts: 5,309	Of the guns I have personally owned these come to mind: Glock 19 or 17 CZ 75B Sig P226 1911 properly built BHP __________________ -The right to be left alone is the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by free people.-Louis Brandeis -Its a tool box... I don't care you put the tools in for the job that's all... -Sam from Ronin -It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

August 25, 2011, 07:41 PM	#80
Sharpsdressed Man Junior member Join Date: June 21, 2009 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 1,176	S&W 500 Load it down to .44 Magnum energy and it should last forever. [IMG][/IMG]

August 26, 2011, 05:03 AM	#82
MikeNice81 Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2010 Posts: 579	In my opinion it would be the 1911 GI service grade. My grandpa used one in Vietnam that had been originally issued in WWII. He was in the 1st Cav and saw some pretty harsh service. According to him it never failed when needed. Nearly any gun designed to be a military sidearm and adopted for that reason by a major nation should suffice. Even some that weren't selected should do the trick. I would trust a CZ P-01 to hold up as well as a 1911 or M9 or HK USP. __________________ Here's my credo: There are no good guns, There are no bad guns. A gun in the hands of a bad man is a bad thing. Any gun in the hands of a good man is no threat to anyone, except bad people. Charlton Heston

August 26, 2011, 06:51 AM	#86
Scout Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 510	That's the almost impossible question. From my personal experience I would choose the USGI M 1911 A1. There are many other fine choices, as you all know. Of the new, less steel varieties that I've had, I like the Ruger P series. __________________ God bless the U.S. Cavalry

August 25, 2011, 02:20 PM	#78
TylerD45ACP Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2010 Posts: 1,654	The 1911A1 that has worked 100+ years. Best pistol and caliber.

August 26, 2011, 05:24 AM	#83
Maxem0815 Junior member Join Date: May 23, 2011 Posts: 216	Well my vote goes for the Colt 1911-A1 or the 1917 Smith or Colt revolver, in that order. The 1911 & 1911A1 as well as 1917 revolvers served in two World Wars, Korea, Viet Nam, and god knows how many smaller conflicts around the world without failure, I would say that alone is proof enough. Mace

August 26, 2011, 05:55 AM	#84
wrm Member Join Date: August 11, 2010 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 52	A 1945 M1911A1 in stainless steel :-) Edit: What? I've been a member here for more than a year and this is my first post? Dayumn.

August 26, 2011, 07:45 AM	#87
Archer 9505 Senior Member Join Date: October 10, 2010 Location: Maine Posts: 213	FBI Pro Model My vote is for the Springfield Armory 1911 FBI Pro Model. Only because mine is on order and a 10000 round acceptance/accuracy test. __________________ NRA Life Member "An Ye Harm None, Do What Ye Will" It's a free country; in a free country, freedom is for more than just those that conform to the accepted.

August 26, 2011, 07:46 AM	#88
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	C'mon... It's the 1911s hands down.

August 26, 2011, 08:38 AM	#89
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	For me to consider something "rugged" my criteria is: 1. it has to be highly rust resistant; 2. it can't be melted with a Bic lighter; 3. minimum number of springs; 4. least number of parts 5. no aluminum 6. it has to be over-engineered for the round used in it 7. sights have to be fixed 8. it can't be finicky about ammunition. So, based on that, most revolvers are going to win hands down - That S&W 500 is looking like a great contender. But, you could go with a stainless S&W .357 or maybe even a Colt .357. I've already given my semi-auto suggestion (Smith 659 - a chunk of stainless that can't be destroyed by any 9mm round), but it has a lot more parts and springs than a revolver.

August 26, 2011, 11:21 PM	#90
chadio Senior Member Join Date: June 29, 2011 Posts: 931	The reason for the lack of SIG Sauer P226 love in this thread - it really needs lube on the slide (lack of lube was a requirement of the original post). I have no problem with that, I love my P226 and wouldn't trade it for anything. Greased and ready . An interesting twist on the original post: of the guns recommended, which will continue to fire when limp-wristed? You never know, during a gun battle or altercation, you may lose your ability to give the proper 'grip and hold' to fire a semi-auto.. some of them are likely to jam, yet others will continue to cycle. Look up 'limp wrist' or 'limp wrist test' test on youtube - you may be surprised at what you see .

August 27, 2011, 08:33 AM	#92
graysmoke Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 378	Steel Gun = Ruger Revolvers (there built like tanks) Polymer Frame & Steel Slide = Glock (just can't hurt it) __________________ "Keep your powder dry, and eyes on the target". -R. Lee Ermey

August 27, 2011, 12:23 PM	#93
bluetopper Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2005 Location: Northeast TX Posts: 1,197	Freedom Arms revolvers............but what does it matter?

August 27, 2011, 01:10 PM	#94
microman Senior Member Join Date: February 6, 2011 Posts: 428	The indestructible Glock

August 27, 2011, 04:16 PM	#95
Stevie-Ray Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: The shores of Lake Huron Posts: 4,783	If anything is more rugged than my Redhawk, it is a either a Super Redhawk or made by Freedom Arms. In autos I'd go with a steel-framed 1911A1. __________________ Stevie-Ray Join the NRA/ILA I am the weapon; my gun is a tool. It's regrettable that with some people those descriptors are reversed.

August 27, 2011, 09:43 PM	#97
Gary L. Griffiths Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: AZ, WA Posts: 1,466	I'd say, the Sig 226 It passed the same tests as the M-9 Beretta, and the slide won't break and fly through your head! __________________ Violence is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and valorous feeling which believes that nothing is worth violence is much worse. Those who have nothing for which they are willing to fight; nothing they care about more than their own craven apathy; are miserable creatures who have no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the valor of those better than themselves. Gary L. Griffiths (Paraphrasing John Stuart Mill)

August 27, 2011, 11:25 PM	#98
BIG P Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2010 Location: North Georgia Posts: 1,679	Ruger Super Red Hawk 7.5,If it gets any tuffer than that who cares.

August 27, 2011, 11:38 PM	#99
T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	"...passed the U.S. Military trials..." Selected for political reasons. Other NATO countries complained about the balance of trade of military kit being heavily in favour of the U.S. No firearm will keep functioning without regular maintenance. Some tend to 'take' more abuse than others though. Stock military handguns, for example. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

August 28, 2011, 12:15 AM	#100
CLC Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2011 Posts: 603	Nothing can destroy the mighty Glock . __________________ In god we trust, all others must pay cash.