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September 17, 2016, 04:44 PM | #1 | ||||||||||
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Comprehensive Gun Laws - A Modest Proposal
My best attempt at the Clinton Gun Law proposals.
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The claim is that his record was improperly entered into the check system and that if it had been entered properly then the sale would have been stopped. It is uncertain which part(s) of this the changes will address: - Fixing entries into the system - Changing the 72 hours to a different time frame - Disallowing sales to those arrested for a felony Quote:
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- Repeal the protections to gun makers and then annihilate the industry by releasing an army of ambulance chasers and meat wagon hitchers in a flurry of lawsuits against gun makers for every person who has ever died from a gun. The gun industry goes broke trying to defend itself. - Sue the dealers as well. Quote:
Here the unpopular BATFE is not named but obliquely referenced instead. Not sure what "underfunded" means. Budget is here: https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/...ing-and-budget Here is inflation: http://www.usinflationcalculator.com...flation-rates/ The BATFE has kept well ahead of inflation in the last eight years with a more than 20% increase. Quote:
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I assume the plan here is to: - Make straw purchases "double secret illegal". - Implement some type of system that better integrates medical mental health records with background checks. This will be difficult to to do. I know of a number of places that don't keep records. - Some kind of scary looking weapon ban. Quote:
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https://www.atf.gov/news/pr/8-charge...ition-firearms Not covered in name aside from the guiding statement is the plan to create a government list to bar people from purchasing guns. Presumably this list would be the same as the "No Fly List" or the "Secondary Screening List" that identifies certain people as high risk for air travel. These lists are both under constant fire for the issues associated with them which is probably why they are not mentioned by name. |
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September 17, 2016, 10:04 PM | #2 |
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Good post.
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September 18, 2016, 09:58 AM | #3 |
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With the exception of expanding background checks to cover every possible transfer (and ignoring the fact that THAT isn't going to stop anyone determined to do harm) and the various bans on things that hold more than 10 shots, look like military weapons, and scare her supporters, nothing in her agenda is NOT ALREADY COVERED BY EXISTING LAW!!!!
And when it comes to violations of existing law, (specifically, prosecuting prohibited people who tried to buy a gun), our current VP has said "we don't have time for that.." What makes you think she will have time for it, either??
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September 18, 2016, 11:58 AM | #4 |
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Hopefully she won't be in the position to do any of it.
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September 18, 2016, 01:51 PM | #5 |
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Her position and statements are disingenuous that she wants some minor changes in background checkes, blah, blah. She is not coming for your guns or the 2nd.
1. Chelsea has said with Scalia dead, now the court can make progress on the 2nd. 2. Hillary has supported Australian laws 3. She and the party platform have spoken out for a new AWB and mag bans. Yep, you can keep your O/U tweety bird skeet gun. Ask her if she supports shall issue CCW or owning AR-15s with a 30 round mag. Those specifics will sink her. However, no one asks - they just ask baloney generalized questions. I know this skirts on politics but I'm discussing details of proposed actions.
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I don't know if yall are following but anything gun related seems to be tied to politics now adays, whether it is national or internet. |
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This one is wrong at so many levels, there is NOTHING "unique" about this, if someone runs over you with their Chevy, you cannot sue GM, if someone attacks you with a chainsaw you cannot sue homelite, if they change this, they must change it to include every manufacturer of every product to be fair.
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September 18, 2016, 03:58 PM | #8 |
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"Comprehensive gun laws," "Common sense gun law," "Gun safety laws" etc are just gobledy gook terms to make onerous laws that protect the scoundrels at the expense of the average citizen without him/her realizing it.
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Since the race is so close either could win at this point so I figured their stated policies are close to being reality and deserve a look. |
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As for the so-called "Charleston loophole" our pro-gun reps in Congress need to stand firm as eliminating the provision for a sale going through after 72 hours could be exploited in a big way by an anti-gun President. All he (or she) would have to do is order the FBI to stop conducting background checks and single-handedly stop all gun sales in the country. Or slow it down, or stop background checks on whatever guns they don't like.
The response to Roofe should be to improve the system so it never takes longer than 72 hours, not eliminate the provision! |
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