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July 10, 2013, 06:19 PM | #126 |
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I live in the DC Metro area, it's not uncommon for the SWAT teams to be involved in something like this. If Joe Average had done the same thing, it would have been handled the same way. It's safer for everyone involved, both the police and whomever they're there to take into custody, they've extensively trained for it. 20 of them? Who knows, but I doubt it was that many. Overreacting? Let's see, he calls for an armed protest march on DC and gets national exposure as a result, then (allegedly) loads a shotgun on video near the White House with phrases like "We will not obey" and "We are the final American Revolution." and posts the video of himself breaking the law online. What did they think was going to happen? Anyone with half a brain would have taken the drugs out of the house, especially if he wanted to keep owning firearm...legally. Now he's the poster child of a "gun nut" for the anti-gun crowd and a martyr for the other extremist nuts.
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July 10, 2013, 10:27 PM | #128 |
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Gun nut, no. Nut, yes.
There is a MAJOR difference in a nut and a gun nut, AKA an afficianado.
He needs mental help as a member of the former.
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July 10, 2013, 11:00 PM | #129 |
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He's not a gun nut or a gun activist... he's simply a jackass.
He doesn't represent me. He doesn't present a positive image of gun owners, or activists for that matter. He doesn't have a clear plan or course of action other than irritating the authorities. His followers are equally ineffective and serve only to bolster his idiocy. A tiny minority of the world realizes he exists, even less listen to him. He's a absolute failure... a pointless, dishonorable existence fraught with police intervention. We know the government is out of control and does not respect the will of the people anymore... but 95% of us currently live pretty well, can still own as many guns as we can buy, and we really have very little to complain about compared to the rest of the world. A real activist will have far more smarts than this clown... a real activist will get elected. |
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He was busted with drugs.
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July 13, 2013, 01:11 PM | #131 |
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That's been mentioned. Another poster boy for the RBKA.
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July 15, 2013, 02:47 PM | #132 |
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The "plan" is to be non-violent...yet their weapons are loaded...hmmmm.....
I guess the question is, can he find 1000 people willing to join him? |
July 15, 2013, 03:10 PM | #133 |
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If we could just listen to history
Rosa Parks changed our laws, our thoughts and our lives by doing nothing more than just quietly saying, 'no' in 1962.
It took a humble, elderly women to, uhem, stand her ground by refusing to move. This classless act did exactly the opposite and got the opposite effect. We need humility and we need to stick to what is right or what we know as the Bill of Rights. If we could learn to stand our ground for the entire Bill of Rights, others might wake up and join in.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/...y.html?hpid=z2
Busted for drugs while in possession of a firearm. Not clear if the video triggered the search. -- From an earlier post.
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Glenn, your link's a 404. Here's another.
And yes, the warrant was issued by US Park Police based on the video. The drugs were just an added bonus.
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July 18, 2013, 05:08 PM | #137 |
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Hey Tom Servo.
You're absolutely correct about people on this forum being active, but the fact is over half the country is either uninformed, in denial, or has been indoctrinated by the media. The whole point of the Second Amendment is so the people can fight back against a tyrannical government and the founders said so. They said we not only have the right but the moral obligation to do whatever is necessary to keep the government check. Not the other way around, they work for us. I think it's time for drastic measures, because if people don't do something now it may not be up to us peace loving Americans soon. How drastic those actions should be depends on if the government listens or not. Protesting, marching, writing your representatives, financially supporting those that share your beliefs and voting are our best chances at peace. If People are too lazy to even vote they're not America in my opinion and deserve what they get. I just don't want their in actions to cost my children their freedom. I just want my children to be free Respectfully...Boomer
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The arrest warrant is posted here. Apparently the detective
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So, he's being charged in Washington DC for violation of § 22-4504, which carries a fine of $5,000 and/or up to five years in prison. However, the separate drug charges in Fairfax may add up to a felony, in which case the punishment for violating DC's gun law is a $10,000 fine and/or 10 years in the pokey. So, at least he's not our problem any more.
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Saw this come over the news and thought many here would like an update.
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Seems that in June he was seen by police smoking marijuana outside the white house, then did the incident of possessing, loading, a pump shotgun in july at Freedom Plaza, both which lead to the arrest. Turns out he plead guilty and apologized per the article. It mentioned that he is also moving to California as well, but also that he will refrain from civil disobedience. |
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"It mentioned that he is also moving to California as well, but also that he will refrain from civil disobedience."
Thank God.
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How long are we supposed to tolerate the DC court's refusal to cut a decision in the carry case, Palmer v. DC?
It was fully briefed and waiting for a decision in what, mid-2009? By July we'll have been waiting five years. For an INITIAL decision that we'll likely have to appeal...or if we win, it's a dead certainty that DC will appeal and the struck-down law will get a stay until that sorts out. If the Supremes won't take a carry case as they've refused to so far, and the district court level flat-out ignores us...what the hell do we do, guys? Just take it?
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Elect folks who will deal with the issue through legislation? That's a thought.
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Hold on. The last piece we have of the "right to petition for redress of grievance" lies in the courts. If the courthouse door is literally closed to us that's a very serious problem.
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As it is, Kokesh's work was never about effecting change for the RKBA. It was about his own personal grandstanding. We're better off without him.
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We haven't LOST the DC carry case. We've been denied access to court. That ain't the same thing. We can appeal a loss. We can even learn from a loss at appeals and try again. But to get shut out of the courthouse entirely is a whole 'nother level of problem. Does anybody reading this thread have a solution? Does anybody have an opinion as to how long we should wait at the courthouse door? Six years? Ten?
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