1939 ww2 german k98 8mm mauser...need info...

hi-c9 · December 11, 2011, 01:42 AM

I'm sitting on a piece of history I really want to learn about. My grandpa gave it to me and the story goes that his dad gave it to him. Its supposed to be a WW2 German K98 8mm mauser. It has 17 German Eagles on swastikas and below that is the inscription WaA623. It has all matching part numbers on the gun they all have 8122 on them including the stock.

UPDATE:
So far I have learned it is made by Steyr-Daimler. It is a model 660 on the right side of the stock there are 3 German eagles one of which and an "L" stamp beneath it standing for Luftwaffe, the other 2 are stamped WaA623. What is this gun worth and can you tell me a little bit more about it. I posted 2 sets of pictures below.

hi-c9 · December 11, 2011, 03:27 AM

these are the best pictures I can really get of it right now let me know if you need better or different pictures and if so what of

hi-c9 · December 11, 2011, 03:29 AM

more pictures

Scorch · December 11, 2011, 04:24 AM

Your K98a was made in 1939 by Steyr-Daimler-Puch in Austria, plant code 660 (not model 660).

It is chambered for 7.92X57mm IS, aka 8X57mm JS, aka 8mm Mauser, the standard service rifle cartridge of Germany from 1905-1945. The cartridge has also been used by Yugoslavia, Turkey, Spain, Albania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Iran, and others.

Yours appears to be a Luftwaffe rifle based on the one stamp. That could draw a premium from a collector.

**Mike Irwin** · December 11, 2011, 06:47 AM

Hi C, I need to apologize.

I shouldn't be doing this this early in the morning, but I accidentally deleted this thread instead of closing it (and I wanted to close the one in Rifles, not this one).

When that happens, the pictures are deleted from the thread as a space saving move.

Mea culpa.

gyvel · December 11, 2011, 11:52 AM

Would the "L" be for the Luftwaffe or a police rifle?

hi-c9 · December 11, 2011, 01:11 PM

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Would the "L" be for the Luftwaffe or a police rifle?

So far from what I have read it stands for Luftwaffe

Colokeb · December 11, 2011, 09:23 PM

Do not refinish the woof. The cartouches add value.

James K · December 11, 2011, 10:38 PM

Well someone has been messing with the stock. The rifle is a K.98k, but the stock appears to be from a VZ-24. Regardless, it is not original to that barrelled action.

Either the stock is from a rifle taken over by the Germans or the German markings are not original, casting doubt on the Eagle/L marking, which appears much newer than the other markings.

HWaA (Heereswaffenamt) inspector 623 was the head of the inspection team at Steyr in those years, and that number will appear on all rifles that were made there in that period.

Jim

JT-AR-MG42 · December 12, 2011, 12:09 AM

Hi-C9,

Based on that distinctive pistol grip and the 'wrap around' buttplate, that sure looks like an Austrian model 29o you are holding.

I would think the left receiver wall is marked as such. What does it say there? Or maybe post a pic of it for us to see.

That is a VERY uncommon rifle in any condition and you say yours has all matching numbers.

I would really like to see a photo of the sling swivels also.

No big story behind the manufacture. Steyr was contracted to build them for the Luftwaffe - the 'L' mark- during 1938 and 1939 after Austrian annexation.

In 1939 , Steyr phased the production over to the 98K style and assembled rifles with Polish receivers and marked the left receiver wall as the 'G29/40.
These are also uncommon, but the 29/40s do turn up.

I won't place a value on it without a few clearer pics and a shot of the left receiver wall.

JT

December 11, 2011, 01:42 AM	#1
hi-c9 Member Join Date: November 23, 2011 Posts: 22	1939 ww2 german k98 8mm mauser...need info... I'm sitting on a piece of history I really want to learn about. My grandpa gave it to me and the story goes that his dad gave it to him. Its supposed to be a WW2 German K98 8mm mauser. It has 17 German Eagles on swastikas and below that is the inscription WaA623. It has all matching part numbers on the gun they all have 8122 on them including the stock. UPDATE: So far I have learned it is made by Steyr-Daimler. It is a model 660 on the right side of the stock there are 3 German eagles one of which and an "L" stamp beneath it standing for Luftwaffe, the other 2 are stamped WaA623. What is this gun worth and can you tell me a little bit more about it. I posted 2 sets of pictures below. Last edited by hi-c9; December 11, 2011 at 04:03 AM. Reason: UPDATE

December 11, 2011, 04:24 AM	#4
Scorch Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 15,248	Your K98a was made in 1939 by Steyr-Daimler-Puch in Austria, plant code 660 (not model 660). It is chambered for 7.92X57mm IS, aka 8X57mm JS, aka 8mm Mauser, the standard service rifle cartridge of Germany from 1905-1945. The cartridge has also been used by Yugoslavia, Turkey, Spain, Albania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Iran, and others. Yours appears to be a Luftwaffe rifle based on the one stamp. That could draw a premium from a collector. __________________ Never try to educate someone who resists knowledge at all costs. But what do I know? Summit Arms Services

December 11, 2011, 06:47 AM	#5
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 13, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 41,390	Hi C, I need to apologize. I shouldn't be doing this this early in the morning, but I accidentally deleted this thread instead of closing it (and I wanted to close the one in Rifles, not this one). When that happens, the pictures are deleted from the thread as a space saving move. Mea culpa. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

December 12, 2011, 12:09 AM	#10
JT-AR-MG42 Senior Member Join Date: December 27, 2008 Posts: 555	Hi-C9, Based on that distinctive pistol grip and the 'wrap around' buttplate, that sure looks like an Austrian model 29o you are holding. I would think the left receiver wall is marked as such. What does it say there? Or maybe post a pic of it for us to see. That is a VERY uncommon rifle in any condition and you say yours has all matching numbers. I would really like to see a photo of the sling swivels also. No big story behind the manufacture. Steyr was contracted to build them for the Luftwaffe - the 'L' mark- during 1938 and 1939 after Austrian annexation. In 1939 , Steyr phased the production over to the 98K style and assembled rifles with Polish receivers and marked the left receiver wall as the 'G29/40. These are also uncommon, but the 29/40s do turn up. I won't place a value on it without a few clearer pics and a shot of the left receiver wall. JT Last edited by JT-AR-MG42; December 12, 2011 at 12:13 AM. Reason: Spelling

December 11, 2011, 11:52 AM	#6
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Would the "L" be for the Luftwaffe or a police rifle?

December 11, 2011, 09:23 PM	#8
Colokeb Member Join Date: February 15, 2008 Location: west Posts: 86	Do not refinish the woof. The cartouches add value.

December 11, 2011, 10:38 PM	#9
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Well someone has been messing with the stock. The rifle is a K.98k, but the stock appears to be from a VZ-24. Regardless, it is not original to that barrelled action. Either the stock is from a rifle taken over by the Germans or the German markings are not original, casting doubt on the Eagle/L marking, which appears much newer than the other markings. HWaA (Heereswaffenamt) inspector 623 was the head of the inspection team at Steyr in those years, and that number will appear on all rifles that were made there in that period. Jim