7mm Rem Mag Vs .308

LordofWar · April 28, 2009, 03:25 PM

For medium game beyond 600 yds.

What would you choose and why?

trooper3385 · April 28, 2009, 03:31 PM

I wouldn't use either one. Get closer, then it doesn't really make a difference.

LordofWar · April 28, 2009, 03:34 PM

It gets easier the closer you get. It's all about beyond 600 yards.

You have a choice starting from .243 (even a .223) to n for within 300-500 yards.

masterhunter · April 28, 2009, 04:25 PM

7 RM shooting 162 grain A-max's kissing the lands with a lupy spinning turrets........that was easy

LordofWar · April 28, 2009, 04:55 PM

Why?

masterhunter · April 28, 2009, 04:58 PM

Wont have to spin the turret as much on that combo as any other = faster!

hardluk1 · April 28, 2009, 05:55 PM

Why try to shoot game beyound a range that does not allow you to make a good judgement call as to what you are looking at to shot is worth shooting. Is it large or small ,spike buck or doe, get the meaning. I shoot a 7rem mag . And beyound 400 yards bullet fall really starts to get your attention as a range finder of top quality is a most and a great spotting scope. Then a 300 win mag to keep the energy up at those longer distances. Bad idea to begine with. Stay with target shooting beyound 400yards.

glockman55 · April 28, 2009, 06:16 PM

Is this a debate or a ??
The question was:
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7mm Rem Mag Vs .308

For medium game beyond 600 yds.

What would you choose and why?

I would go with the 7mm, mag..flatter shooter

LordofWar · April 28, 2009, 06:20 PM

I think .300 Win Mag should be added to the comparison as well.
:/

davlandrum · April 28, 2009, 06:40 PM

I think "I don't shoot at game at 600" should also be added

LordofWar · April 28, 2009, 07:07 PM

Why? Thats when the REAL game starts.

jmr40 · April 28, 2009, 07:30 PM

I do not have the skills to make those shots, but I know people who can do it and the 7 mag is the clear winner here. The 308 is capable of making hits at well over 600 yards with a good shot, but I would worry about the energy remaining.

tblt44 · April 28, 2009, 07:45 PM

7 mm mag flat shooting thats why I got mine

pilothunter · April 28, 2009, 07:48 PM

I would not use either to "hunt" big game at those ranges.

sasquatch · April 28, 2009, 08:58 PM

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I would not use either to "hunt" big game at those ranges.

Amen to that........nor "medium game", either.

masterhunter · April 28, 2009, 09:28 PM

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I would not use either to "hunt" big game at those ranges.

Why?

Daryl · April 28, 2009, 09:30 PM

The 7mm mag is faster, and flatter shooting.

I see no advantage in the .308 over the 7mm Rem Mag for long range shooting.

That said, I don't much care for shots over about 500 yards. Even on those, I'm careful about what shots I take.

Daryl

bcarver · April 28, 2009, 09:30 PM

My longest shot ever was 285 yards. Slightly under half (600) what you ask of your round. Closest was about 7 to 11 yards.

masterhunter · April 28, 2009, 09:36 PM

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I think .300 Win Mag should be added to the comparison as well.

Why? the 7mm with 162 A-max's will trump any .300 laod you can come up with in both energy and trajectory.....

Art Eatman · April 28, 2009, 10:31 PM

Hey, all it takes to be good at 600 yards is hundreds and hundreds of rounds of practice, and a really great ability to dope the wind. Isn't that what all of us do?

But is that critter at 575, or maybe 625? There's a fair difference in the trajectory, maybe a foot, foot-and-a-half with a 7 Maggie.

And "just a breeze" will give you some five feet of wind drift...

I've never messed around beyond 500 yards, but it's a bunch different from the easy stuff of 300 yards on in.

But, yeah, the Maggie will do better than the .308...

sasquatch · April 28, 2009, 10:57 PM

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But, yeah, the Maggie will do better than the .308...

Maggie?

I thought we were discussing the 7mm Remington Magnum, not some lap-dancer.

Jekyll · April 28, 2009, 11:19 PM

7mm, like others said because it's a flatter shooter. I dropped a trotting bull elk at 450 yards with 1 broadside shot in the center chest using a 175 gr. Nosler Partition handload. He folded on impact and slid down a shale draw. He thrashed a bit but never got back up. I wouldn't have taken the shot at 600 yards even if he was standing. Deer are a much smaller target even though there is less to punch through. 1 MOA is 6 inches at 600 yards which doesn't give much room for ANY error on deer size game. Under hunting situations with adrenaline and rapid heart beats you are clearly in the messy hit/clean miss zone. My 7 shoots Noslers under .7 MOA.

sasquatch · April 28, 2009, 11:35 PM

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the 7mm with 162 A-max's will trump any .300 laod you can come up with in both energy and trajectory...

My understanding is that the Hornady A-Max is a match-grade target bullet, not a hunting bullet.

masterhunter · April 28, 2009, 11:38 PM

Keep understanding it like that then........try it once it'll make a believer out of you.

sasquatch · April 28, 2009, 11:40 PM

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Keep understanding it like that then.

Well, my understanding is from reading what Hornady says about their bullets. I do believe I'll go with what the manufacturer recommends.

Hornady makes very good hunting bullets.....the A-Max just isn't one of them.

April 28, 2009, 03:25 PM	#1
LordofWar Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2009 Location: Pakistan Posts: 646	7mm Rem Mag Vs .308 For medium game beyond 600 yds. What would you choose and why?

April 28, 2009, 06:40 PM	#10
davlandrum Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2006 Location: Lane County Oregon Posts: 2,547	I think "I don't shoot at game at 600" should also be added __________________ U.S Army, Retired Ethics is knowing the difference between what you have a right to do and what is right to do. -Potter Stewart

April 28, 2009, 09:30 PM	#18
bcarver Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2007 Location: Jackson,Mississippi Posts: 838	Long shot My longest shot ever was 285 yards. Slightly under half (600) what you ask of your round. Closest was about 7 to 11 yards.

April 28, 2009, 03:31 PM	#2
trooper3385 Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2005 Location: South Texas Posts: 814	I wouldn't use either one. Get closer, then it doesn't really make a difference.

April 28, 2009, 03:34 PM	#3
LordofWar Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2009 Location: Pakistan Posts: 646	It gets easier the closer you get. It's all about beyond 600 yards. You have a choice starting from .243 (even a .223) to n for within 300-500 yards.

April 28, 2009, 04:25 PM	#4
masterhunter Junior member Join Date: September 4, 2006 Location: In the USA.... Posts: 136	7 RM shooting 162 grain A-max's kissing the lands with a lupy spinning turrets........that was easy

April 28, 2009, 04:55 PM	#5
LordofWar Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2009 Location: Pakistan Posts: 646	Why?

April 28, 2009, 04:58 PM	#6
masterhunter Junior member Join Date: September 4, 2006 Location: In the USA.... Posts: 136	Wont have to spin the turret as much on that combo as any other = faster!

April 28, 2009, 05:55 PM	#7
hardluk1 Junior member Join Date: March 27, 2009 Posts: 600	Why try to shoot game beyound a range that does not allow you to make a good judgement call as to what you are looking at to shot is worth shooting. Is it large or small ,spike buck or doe, get the meaning. I shoot a 7rem mag . And beyound 400 yards bullet fall really starts to get your attention as a range finder of top quality is a most and a great spotting scope. Then a 300 win mag to keep the energy up at those longer distances. Bad idea to begine with. Stay with target shooting beyound 400yards.

April 28, 2009, 06:16 PM	#8
glockman55 Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2009 Location: Mich Posts: 179	Is this a debate or a ?? The question was: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7mm Rem Mag Vs .308 For medium game beyond 600 yds. What would you choose and why? I would go with the 7mm, mag..flatter shooter

April 28, 2009, 06:20 PM	#9
LordofWar Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2009 Location: Pakistan Posts: 646	I think .300 Win Mag should be added to the comparison as well. :/

April 28, 2009, 07:07 PM	#11
LordofWar Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2009 Location: Pakistan Posts: 646	Why? Thats when the REAL game starts.

April 28, 2009, 07:30 PM	#12
jmr40 Senior Member Join Date: June 15, 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 10,805	I do not have the skills to make those shots, but I know people who can do it and the 7 mag is the clear winner here. The 308 is capable of making hits at well over 600 yards with a good shot, but I would worry about the energy remaining.

April 28, 2009, 07:45 PM	#13
tblt44 Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2009 Posts: 164	7 mm mag flat shooting thats why I got mine

April 28, 2009, 07:48 PM	#14
pilothunter Junior member Join Date: February 12, 2009 Location: Tn Posts: 400	I would not use either to "hunt" big game at those ranges.

April 28, 2009, 09:30 PM	#17
Daryl Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2008 Posts: 2,350	The 7mm mag is faster, and flatter shooting. I see no advantage in the .308 over the 7mm Rem Mag for long range shooting. That said, I don't much care for shots over about 500 yards. Even on those, I'm careful about what shots I take. Daryl

April 28, 2009, 10:31 PM	#20
Art Eatman Staff in Memoriam Join Date: November 13, 1998 Location: Terlingua, TX; Thomasville, GA Posts: 24,798	Hey, all it takes to be good at 600 yards is hundreds and hundreds of rounds of practice, and a really great ability to dope the wind. Isn't that what all of us do? But is that critter at 575, or maybe 625? There's a fair difference in the trajectory, maybe a foot, foot-and-a-half with a 7 Maggie. And "just a breeze" will give you some five feet of wind drift... I've never messed around beyond 500 yards, but it's a bunch different from the easy stuff of 300 yards on in. But, yeah, the Maggie will do better than the .308...

April 28, 2009, 11:19 PM	#22
Jekyll Senior Member Join Date: January 27, 2009 Location: Easten PA Posts: 277	7mm, like others said because it's a flatter shooter. I dropped a trotting bull elk at 450 yards with 1 broadside shot in the center chest using a 175 gr. Nosler Partition handload. He folded on impact and slid down a shale draw. He thrashed a bit but never got back up. I wouldn't have taken the shot at 600 yards even if he was standing. Deer are a much smaller target even though there is less to punch through. 1 MOA is 6 inches at 600 yards which doesn't give much room for ANY error on deer size game. Under hunting situations with adrenaline and rapid heart beats you are clearly in the messy hit/clean miss zone. My 7 shoots Noslers under .7 MOA.

April 28, 2009, 11:38 PM	#24
masterhunter Junior member Join Date: September 4, 2006 Location: In the USA.... Posts: 136	Keep understanding it like that then........try it once it'll make a believer out of you.