Anyone Know where I can get a PeriScope?

Jamie Young · January 16, 2002, 12:52 AM

I saw them in a Surplus magazine a few years ago and I wish I would have gotten one. They are the little Mirror things The Military used for Trench Warfare. I saw surplus ones for Modern Military forces for like $20. I'd like to find one for Playing Paintball.

Borf · January 16, 2002, 01:21 AM

Two little hunks of mirror and some PVC water pipe and you're in business

Jamie Young · January 16, 2002, 01:24 AM

Ok Mr. Smarty Pants

Nah I want a little one.

Actually thats not a bad idea. I'd probable end up playing with it in the bath tub though

Steven Mace · January 16, 2002, 03:47 AM

If you're looking for one like this try visiting
http://www.surplusshed.com/closeouts.cfm for more information. Hope this helps!

Steve Mace

C.R.Sam · January 16, 2002, 03:22 PM

There was a used Russian submarine on ebay a while back.

Sam

Jamie Young · January 16, 2002, 10:02 PM

C.R.Sam I think that may be a wee bit too big for me

Steve Mace thats more along the lines of what I'm looking for. The one I saw was a little smaller but that might do just fine.

Foxy · January 16, 2002, 10:46 PM

At least you won't have to fear people with Angels and Autocockers anymore

JAMES L.SMITH · January 16, 2002, 11:14 PM

Try I.M.A. AT www.ima-usa.com or phone 908-903-1200.Ever try gum&mirror easy to use.I'v seen the type you are asking about in Gun List & Shotgunnews.

Jamie Young · January 16, 2002, 11:41 PM

That site has something screwed up in the Processing order page.

That place is actually about 45min from me. I don't know if I want to drive up there for a $15 item.

I'll have to pick up a copy of Shotgun news. The Online site didn't have anything.

boogerbawb · January 18, 2002, 05:30 PM

I'd have to dig through my catalogs, but I've seen tank and APC periscopes used in the driver/gunner/TC positions for sale. If they're anything like the ones in the Bradleys, though, I'd say they're way too heavy and bulky to be lugging around dismounted. Just for paintballing, I'd go with Borf and just make you a little one.

Jamie Young · January 18, 2002, 05:58 PM

I actually just ordered that Periscope yesterday and got it today

Its pretty neat for $15. It is a bit heavier than I expected. I saw a smaller one years ago for Infantry. This one will do for Defense but Its a bit heavy to carry around playing Paint Ball.

Flotsam · January 20, 2002, 12:11 AM

Actually, the PVC / mirror idea would work - use small mirrors (look at sciplus.com for all kinds of optics)& 2" pvc. cut pvc to length desired (or you could "nest" 2 sizes of pvc , but you need a relatively close fit). Cap the ends, cut a hole at the top & bottom that are 180 degrees away from each other. Place a mirror at approximately 45 degrees at each end so that light entering the the top hole is reflected to the lower hole - it may take some fine tuning, but you should be able to make one that fits your needs. (made one when I was a kid out of a cardboard tube & a couple of cheap pocket mirrors - it works.

Jamie Young · January 20, 2002, 12:15 AM

I think I might do that. I need a smaller almost Pocket size one.

dZ · January 20, 2002, 01:04 AM

if i hit your periscope with a paintball you are out

i doubt a scope would improve your game as much as more paint and a faster gun

i played last week against some guys that must of ran 500 rounds in 5 minutes a piece, the paint must of been free, cause it fell like rain

if yer in a bunker and a timmy with an attitude has you in range
yer toast, peeking at them with a periscope is gonna confirm yer locale
& yer gonna be lugging that scope to the dead zone

unless yer senario playing, you burn 15 minutes of game play best
travelling light

Jamie Young · January 20, 2002, 01:18 AM

Out of about 20 games I've played this year, I have NEVER been shot anywhere other than My Face hands and feet. I always got taken out trying to peek around a corner or over a stump. If I had something that was about 2-3 inches in Diameter and was camouflaged THEY"D NEVER SEE ME UNTILL THEY WERE 5ft AWAY

Jamie Young · January 20, 2002, 01:20 AM

Besides when I get done making a Periscope its going to look like a wooden log

C.R.Sam · January 20, 2002, 01:38 AM

One length of PVC piipe. Two elbows. Two little mirrors. Simple.

Sam

Jim V · January 20, 2002, 06:54 PM

Edmund Scientific has a 'scope or two. Or hijack a submarine.

Jamie Young · January 20, 2002, 08:09 PM

Do they have a website?

dZ · January 20, 2002, 10:08 PM

http://www.ScientificsOnline.com/Pro...?productid=461

http://www.sciplus.com/category.cfm?...9&category=196

http://www.surplusshed.com/closeouts.cfm

Jamie Young · January 20, 2002, 11:29 PM

Thanks DZ

Futo Inu · January 24, 2002, 02:48 PM

I played lasertag yesterday for the first time - it was a hoot. But paintball would be more fun I'm sure. The devil is going to be in the precise placement of the mirrors in the tube at 45 degrees, and what to hold them in place with.... Easier to buy one seems to me, esp for your purpose soda, b/c u want something very small and thus easily camoflauged - the smaller one u try to make, the harder to get the mirror to set right.....

You paintball guys, tell me something - I've never been. Do you have select-fire guns??? How much are they? I hear they can be up to $2,000. Any links to pics? Please tell me it's not that much fun, and I don't need to try it. I REALLY don't need to be spending money on yet another hobby - but a select-fire paintball gun sounds like a kick in the pants. U guys play capture the flag or last man standing primarily???

pdmoderator · January 24, 2002, 03:25 PM

...what the heck are you going to DO with that periscope, Sodapop?

And those sandbags?

And that 104?

- pdmoderator

Jamie Young · January 24, 2002, 03:51 PM

PdModerator- What sand Bags and what 104? What are you talking about?

Futo Inu- I'm not Paintball expert, I've only played twice in the last year. We played all kinds of games, capture the flag, Kill the Taliban.

You really don't need to over complicate things playing Paintball. Running and Hiding means more in the game than your weapon. You get a little more accuracy and power out of a longer barrel. But, I don't think you really need to spend more than $600 for a fancy paintball gun. Most people I know that own their's are under $250. I've heard a lot of bad things about Full Auto paint guns because the CO2 tends to freeze things up inside. I have spent close to $100 a day playing and I can't conceive of how much I would spend on Paintballs if I had a Full auto or Select fire gun.

Full auto Paintball guns can cost in the thousands.

pdmoderator · January 24, 2002, 04:57 PM

...only it didn't work too well, I guess. My apologies.

- pdmoderator

January 16, 2002, 12:52 AM	#1
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	Anyone Know where I can get a PeriScope? I saw them in a Surplus magazine a few years ago and I wish I would have gotten one. They are the little Mirror things The Military used for Trench Warfare. I saw surplus ones for Modern Military forces for like $20. I'd like to find one for Playing Paintball. __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 16, 2002, 01:21 AM	#2
Borf Senior Member Join Date: February 24, 2001 Location: Middle Tennessee Posts: 424	Two little hunks of mirror and some PVC water pipe and you're in business __________________ A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. -- Wiliam James If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money it values more, it will lose that, too. -- W. Somerset Maugham

January 16, 2002, 01:24 AM	#3
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	Ok Mr. Smarty Pants Nah I want a little one. Actually thats not a bad idea. I'd probable end up playing with it in the bath tub though __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 16, 2002, 03:47 AM	#4
Steven Mace Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 1999 Location: Clifton, Colorado USA Posts: 724	If you're looking for one like this try visiting http://www.surplusshed.com/closeouts.cfm for more information. Hope this helps! Steve Mace __________________ After today, its all historical

January 16, 2002, 10:02 PM	#6
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	C.R.Sam I think that may be a wee bit too big for me Steve Mace thats more along the lines of what I'm looking for. The one I saw was a little smaller but that might do just fine. __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 16, 2002, 03:22 PM	#5
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	There was a used Russian submarine on ebay a while back. Sam

January 16, 2002, 10:46 PM	#7
Foxy Senior Member Join Date: September 14, 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 846	At least you won't have to fear people with Angels and Autocockers anymore

January 16, 2002, 11:14 PM	#8
JAMES L.SMITH Senior Member Join Date: October 19, 1999 Location: Lakeland Fl.U.S.A. Posts: 173	Try I.M.A. AT www.ima-usa.com or phone 908-903-1200.Ever try gum&mirror easy to use.I'v seen the type you are asking about in Gun List & Shotgunnews. __________________ MONTANI SEMPER LIBERI

January 16, 2002, 11:41 PM	#9
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	That site has something screwed up in the Processing order page. That place is actually about 45min from me. I don't know if I want to drive up there for a $15 item. I'll have to pick up a copy of Shotgun news. The Online site didn't have anything. __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 18, 2002, 05:30 PM	#10
boogerbawb Member Join Date: October 10, 2001 Location: Montana Posts: 73	I'd have to dig through my catalogs, but I've seen tank and APC periscopes used in the driver/gunner/TC positions for sale. If they're anything like the ones in the Bradleys, though, I'd say they're way too heavy and bulky to be lugging around dismounted. Just for paintballing, I'd go with Borf and just make you a little one. __________________ The most terrifying sound in nature is not the roar of a charging lion nor the whistle of a descending bomb; rather, it is a click when you expect to hear a bang." Peter Hathaway Capstick, or, "Why I hate the M16A1"

January 18, 2002, 05:58 PM	#11
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	I actually just ordered that Periscope yesterday and got it today Its pretty neat for $15. It is a bit heavier than I expected. I saw a smaller one years ago for Infantry. This one will do for Defense but Its a bit heavy to carry around playing Paint Ball. __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 20, 2002, 12:11 AM	#12
Flotsam Member Join Date: February 4, 1999 Location: CT Posts: 40	Actually, the PVC / mirror idea would work - use small mirrors (look at sciplus.com for all kinds of optics)& 2" pvc. cut pvc to length desired (or you could "nest" 2 sizes of pvc , but you need a relatively close fit). Cap the ends, cut a hole at the top & bottom that are 180 degrees away from each other. Place a mirror at approximately 45 degrees at each end so that light entering the the top hole is reflected to the lower hole - it may take some fine tuning, but you should be able to make one that fits your needs. (made one when I was a kid out of a cardboard tube & a couple of cheap pocket mirrors - it works.

January 20, 2002, 12:15 AM	#13
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	I think I might do that. I need a smaller almost Pocket size one. __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 20, 2002, 01:04 AM	#14
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	if i hit your periscope with a paintball you are out i doubt a scope would improve your game as much as more paint and a faster gun i played last week against some guys that must of ran 500 rounds in 5 minutes a piece, the paint must of been free, cause it fell like rain if yer in a bunker and a timmy with an attitude has you in range yer toast, peeking at them with a periscope is gonna confirm yer locale & yer gonna be lugging that scope to the dead zone unless yer senario playing, you burn 15 minutes of game play best travelling light __________________ "O tell the Lacedomecians to damn the torpedoes." BOTR, Chapter V: Some Monsters

January 20, 2002, 01:18 AM	#15
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	NOT THE WAY I PLAY Out of about 20 games I've played this year, I have NEVER been shot anywhere other than My Face hands and feet. I always got taken out trying to peek around a corner or over a stump. If I had something that was about 2-3 inches in Diameter and was camouflaged THEY"D NEVER SEE ME UNTILL THEY WERE 5ft AWAY __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 20, 2002, 01:20 AM	#16
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	Besides when I get done making a Periscope its going to look like a wooden log __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 20, 2002, 01:38 AM	#17
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	One length of PVC piipe. Two elbows. Two little mirrors. Simple. Sam

January 20, 2002, 06:54 PM	#18
Jim V Senior Member Join Date: January 31, 1999 Location: SE Michigan - USA Posts: 4,038	Edmund Scientific has a 'scope or two. Or hijack a submarine. __________________ *MOLON LABE* If it ain't metal, single stack & single action, it ain't a 1911 no matter what it looks like. 1911 Forum THE TUBBY CURMUDGEON

January 20, 2002, 08:09 PM	#19
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	Do they have a website? __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 20, 2002, 10:08 PM	#20
dZ Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 1999 Location: Exiled, Fetid Swamp, DC Posts: 7,548	http://www.ScientificsOnline.com/Pro...?productid=461 http://www.sciplus.com/category.cfm?...9&category=196 http://www.surplusshed.com/closeouts.cfm __________________ "O tell the Lacedomecians to damn the torpedoes." BOTR, Chapter V: Some Monsters

January 20, 2002, 11:29 PM	#21
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	Thanks DZ __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 24, 2002, 02:48 PM	#22
Futo Inu Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 1999 Location: Oklahoma City, OK, USA Posts: 3,624	I played lasertag yesterday for the first time - it was a hoot. But paintball would be more fun I'm sure. The devil is going to be in the precise placement of the mirrors in the tube at 45 degrees, and what to hold them in place with.... Easier to buy one seems to me, esp for your purpose soda, b/c u want something very small and thus easily camoflauged - the smaller one u try to make, the harder to get the mirror to set right..... You paintball guys, tell me something - I've never been. Do you have select-fire guns??? How much are they? I hear they can be up to $2,000. Any links to pics? Please tell me it's not that much fun, and I don't need to try it. I REALLY don't need to be spending money on yet another hobby - but a select-fire paintball gun sounds like a kick in the pants. U guys play capture the flag or last man standing primarily??? __________________ "You are NOT Joseph's father, Hank. You are not supposed to take over until Dale is gunned down by federal agents - that is the agreement." --Peggy

January 24, 2002, 03:25 PM	#23
pdmoderator Registration in progress Join Date: November 6, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,202	Before I come next Sunday... ...what the heck are you going to DO with that periscope, Sodapop? And those sandbags? And that 104? - pdmoderator __________________ Give up no state. Give up no ground.

January 24, 2002, 03:51 PM	#24
Jamie Young Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2000 Location: SE/PA Posts: 4,834	PdModerator- What sand Bags and what 104? What are you talking about? Futo Inu- I'm not Paintball expert, I've only played twice in the last year. We played all kinds of games, capture the flag, Kill the Taliban. You really don't need to over complicate things playing Paintball. Running and Hiding means more in the game than your weapon. You get a little more accuracy and power out of a longer barrel. But, I don't think you really need to spend more than $600 for a fancy paintball gun. Most people I know that own their's are under $250. I've heard a lot of bad things about Full Auto paint guns because the CO2 tends to freeze things up inside. I have spent close to $100 a day playing and I can't conceive of how much I would spend on Paintballs if I had a Full auto or Select fire gun. Full auto Paintball guns can cost in the thousands. __________________ Find out about Gun Shows and Training activities. www.TheRallyPoint.org Get your gun club involved!!

January 24, 2002, 04:57 PM	#25
pdmoderator Registration in progress Join Date: November 6, 2001 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,202	Just some attempted leg-pulling... ...only it didn't work too well, I guess. My apologies. - pdmoderator __________________ Give up no state. Give up no ground.