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M.O.A. · March 14, 2011, 02:33 PM

a good choice and you will like it

bigbird34 · March 15, 2011, 03:19 PM

Save $100.00 more and get a zeiss ($400.00)...from cabelas ,a very good scope!

My 2 cents,Jim

Saltydog235 · March 15, 2011, 03:25 PM

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Save $100.00 more and get a zeiss ($400.00)...from cabelas ,a very good scope!

My 2 cents,Jim

This, a 3X9X40 Conquest is a great scope at that price. Or another option is to look at the Bushnell Elite 4200's. I know Midway and Natchez has had them on sale at some pretty reduced prices. Bright clear glass with pretty good optics. Leupold is great too. Not a fan of Nikon's products.

M.O.A. · March 15, 2011, 03:26 PM

i really dont think the zeiss is going to be cheaper of him seens he works at gander and the leopuld vx-2 3-9X40 sell for $299 to $349 depending on finish and reticle

Recoiljunky · March 15, 2011, 03:27 PM

i have a leupold vxII 3-9x40 mounted on my 270 and it held up for about 3 years, just now the retical in it does not hold zero anymore but thats what they have the warrenty for.

Saltydog235 · March 15, 2011, 03:47 PM

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i really dont think the zeiss is going to be cheaper of him seens he works at gander and the leopuld vx-2 3-9X40 sell for $299 to $349 depending on finish and reticle

No one said it was going to be cheaper, in fact its $100.00 more but a lot more scope for the money. I have both the VXII and a Conquest and the Conquest is A LOT better scope. Nothing wrong with the Leupold its just not the same as the Ziess.

hunter2009 · March 16, 2011, 11:27 AM

compaired both the leupold and the zeiss side by side and to me they were close to the same and i dont think the zeiss is worth the extra money. just my opinion tho

Saltydog235 · March 16, 2011, 12:20 PM

Did you compare them in the store or out in the real world in hunting conditions or at least outside? Inside a store the differences don't usually stand out like they do in field conditions. Where I hunt, low light usually means seeing deer or at least shooter deer, the VXII on my 30'06, which I love and have used for a very long time, is hard to see through and pick up the reticle in dusky conditions. The Ziess I have has extended that time by 15 minutes which can mean the difference between sucess and just a nice long commune with nature.

To each his own, Leupold makes a fine product but the VXII is not a Ziess. The VXIII that I use on the 7 Mag is very close though except its a 50mm objective and retails for more than the Ziess.

I have to say, I have been very very impressed with the Bushnell Elite 4200 I aquired with the Savage rifle.

603Country · March 16, 2011, 02:31 PM

Some years ago I was in a double blind with a buddy and we were waiting for the hogs to show up at the feeder. It got too dark for me to see the feeder through my Vari-x2 Leupold, so I suggested we go back to the ranchhouse for a beer. He said that there was plenty of light left and passed me his rifle with the Zeiss optics. He was right...with his Zeiss there was plenty of light left. These days I've upgraded to VX3 Leupolds, but I do wonder if the Zeiss are brighter than today's VX3s. My 30mm tube VX3 is very bright, and brighter than my 1 inch tube VX3, that's for sure.

M.O.A. · March 16, 2011, 07:13 PM

well that is because the 30mm tube lets a lot more light pass through

603Country · March 16, 2011, 07:25 PM

Yes, I had certainly read that the 30mm tube passed more light, but I hadn't experienced the difference until I bought one. The buddy's Zeiss was just the 1 inch tube version. I wish I could afford (or hide the expense from the wife) a few more of the 30mm tube optics. Like many of you guys, I have what I need, but not what I now want.

M.O.A. · March 16, 2011, 07:31 PM

lol me to i would like to have some leupold 30mm tubes but their high and just havent got one yet . its comeing soon though as i hope to get a custum hunting rifle from E.R. shaw and thats whats going on it

38superhero · March 16, 2011, 07:33 PM

leupold....ftw

603Country · March 16, 2011, 07:44 PM

And speaking of hiding expenses from the wife, my brother in law just ordered a 4.5x14 Leupold with the illuminated reticle and 50mm objective. I don't know what tube diameter he got, but I think he dropped $1500 or so. If his wife (my sister) ever found out, he's a dead man. I'd love to have that scope, and I suppose I could afford it if I just HAD to have it, but that's so much money, and I don't really think it'd improve my hunting success that much. That's what I'm telling myself, so don't any of ya'll tell me different.

M.O.A. · March 16, 2011, 11:22 PM

just to throw these two in there at you for $1150 you can get ethere the huskemaw 5-20X50 or the greybull 4-14X50 the greybull is mad by leupuld

hunter2009 · March 16, 2011, 11:39 PM

ill take a look at the vx 2 and the zeiss agian ill have to talk to a manager to see what he says about taking a scoop outside the store they can be picky about that. since i will be bear hunting with it over bait it could be a late shot

.300 Weatherby Mag · March 16, 2011, 11:51 PM

The VX-3 and the Zeiss Conquest are comparable... The VX-II and the Zeiss are not.. I own VX-IIs, VX-3s and a Zeiss Conquest..

hunter2009 · March 17, 2011, 07:21 AM

being that you own them all witch one do you like most

Saltydog235 · March 17, 2011, 07:48 AM

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The VX-3 and the Zeiss Conquest are comparable... The VX-II and the Zeiss are not.. I own VX-IIs, VX-3s and a Zeiss Conquest..

Ditto this and add a VXI, a Bushnell Elite 4200, a Burris Fullfield, a couple of 4X Weavers, and a Bausch and Lomb or 2.

My favorites at this time in order are the Ziess Conquest 3.5X10 on my 7mm-08, the Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5X10 on my .243 and the VXIII that's on my 7mmMag. And the Bushnell and VXIII are 50mm scopes, the Ziess is a 40mm. The only one that has 30mm tube is the Bushnell and the Ziess is still brighter by a hair.

Catfishman · March 26, 2011, 11:20 AM

Thanks for the links NYCollector, the Mueller 3-10x44 Tac II looks like an underpriced high quality scope.

March 15, 2011, 03:19 PM	#27
bigbird34 Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2007 Location: N.W.Vermont Posts: 291	Zeiss Conquest Save $100.00 more and get a zeiss ($400.00)...from cabelas ,a very good scope! My 2 cents,Jim

March 14, 2011, 02:33 PM	#26
M.O.A. Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2011 Location: south indiana Posts: 555	a good choice and you will like it

March 15, 2011, 03:26 PM	#29
M.O.A. Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2011 Location: south indiana Posts: 555	i really dont think the zeiss is going to be cheaper of him seens he works at gander and the leopuld vx-2 3-9X40 sell for $299 to $349 depending on finish and reticle

March 15, 2011, 03:27 PM	#30
Recoiljunky Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2011 Location: Jupiter, florida Posts: 233	i have a leupold vxII 3-9x40 mounted on my 270 and it held up for about 3 years, just now the retical in it does not hold zero anymore but thats what they have the warrenty for.

March 16, 2011, 11:27 AM	#32
hunter2009 Member Join Date: March 9, 2011 Posts: 23	compaired both the leupold and the zeiss side by side and to me they were close to the same and i dont think the zeiss is worth the extra money. just my opinion tho

March 16, 2011, 12:20 PM	#33
Saltydog235 Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2010 Location: Pawleys Island Posts: 1,563	Did you compare them in the store or out in the real world in hunting conditions or at least outside? Inside a store the differences don't usually stand out like they do in field conditions. Where I hunt, low light usually means seeing deer or at least shooter deer, the VXII on my 30'06, which I love and have used for a very long time, is hard to see through and pick up the reticle in dusky conditions. The Ziess I have has extended that time by 15 minutes which can mean the difference between sucess and just a nice long commune with nature. To each his own, Leupold makes a fine product but the VXII is not a Ziess. The VXIII that I use on the 7 Mag is very close though except its a 50mm objective and retails for more than the Ziess. I have to say, I have been very very impressed with the Bushnell Elite 4200 I aquired with the Savage rifle.

March 16, 2011, 02:31 PM	#34
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 3,998	Some years ago I was in a double blind with a buddy and we were waiting for the hogs to show up at the feeder. It got too dark for me to see the feeder through my Vari-x2 Leupold, so I suggested we go back to the ranchhouse for a beer. He said that there was plenty of light left and passed me his rifle with the Zeiss optics. He was right...with his Zeiss there was plenty of light left. These days I've upgraded to VX3 Leupolds, but I do wonder if the Zeiss are brighter than today's VX3s. My 30mm tube VX3 is very bright, and brighter than my 1 inch tube VX3, that's for sure.

March 16, 2011, 07:13 PM	#35
M.O.A. Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2011 Location: south indiana Posts: 555	well that is because the 30mm tube lets a lot more light pass through

March 16, 2011, 07:25 PM	#36
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 3,998	Yes, I had certainly read that the 30mm tube passed more light, but I hadn't experienced the difference until I bought one. The buddy's Zeiss was just the 1 inch tube version. I wish I could afford (or hide the expense from the wife) a few more of the 30mm tube optics. Like many of you guys, I have what I need, but not what I now want.

March 16, 2011, 07:31 PM	#37
M.O.A. Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2011 Location: south indiana Posts: 555	lol me to i would like to have some leupold 30mm tubes but their high and just havent got one yet . its comeing soon though as i hope to get a custum hunting rifle from E.R. shaw and thats whats going on it

March 16, 2011, 07:33 PM	#38
38superhero Senior Member Join Date: November 17, 2007 Posts: 561	leupold....ftw

March 16, 2011, 07:44 PM	#39
603Country Senior Member Join Date: January 6, 2011 Location: Thornton, Texas Posts: 3,998	And speaking of hiding expenses from the wife, my brother in law just ordered a 4.5x14 Leupold with the illuminated reticle and 50mm objective. I don't know what tube diameter he got, but I think he dropped $1500 or so. If his wife (my sister) ever found out, he's a dead man. I'd love to have that scope, and I suppose I could afford it if I just HAD to have it, but that's so much money, and I don't really think it'd improve my hunting success that much. That's what I'm telling myself, so don't any of ya'll tell me different.

March 16, 2011, 11:22 PM	#40
M.O.A. Senior Member Join Date: January 29, 2011 Location: south indiana Posts: 555	just to throw these two in there at you for $1150 you can get ethere the huskemaw 5-20X50 or the greybull 4-14X50 the greybull is mad by leupuld

March 16, 2011, 11:39 PM	#41
hunter2009 Member Join Date: March 9, 2011 Posts: 23	ill take a look at the vx 2 and the zeiss agian ill have to talk to a manager to see what he says about taking a scoop outside the store they can be picky about that. since i will be bear hunting with it over bait it could be a late shot

March 16, 2011, 11:51 PM	#42
.300 Weatherby Mag Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2008 Posts: 1,777	The VX-3 and the Zeiss Conquest are comparable... The VX-II and the Zeiss are not.. I own VX-IIs, VX-3s and a Zeiss Conquest..

March 17, 2011, 07:21 AM	#43
hunter2009 Member Join Date: March 9, 2011 Posts: 23	being that you own them all witch one do you like most

March 26, 2011, 11:20 AM	#45
Catfishman Senior Member Join Date: February 10, 2009 Location: Mississippi Posts: 727	Thanks for the links NYCollector, the Mueller 3-10x44 Tac II looks like an underpriced high quality scope.