First encounter with police since permit issue - Page 5

sixgun67 · December 16, 2010, 03:26 PM

Great job, filing the report. Get it documented, if it hits a sore spot for the police, so be it. Maybe they would think twice should there ever be a next time.
sixgun

Wag · December 16, 2010, 03:42 PM

Glad to know you followed through with a complaint.

If necessary, you could press it further in the court of public opinion: Send a letter to the editor.

--Wag--

TXAZ · December 16, 2010, 08:19 PM

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Quote Glenn Dee:

Once again... Having a CCW license or permit does not automatically 

make you a good guy. 

It just may mean that you havent been caught yet.

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Quote DiscoRacing:

Well along that line of logic/thinking then....

....Wearing a badge does not automatically make you a good guy either.

Most everyone has had encounters with officers some good, some maybe not so. Considering how difficult some agencies seem to have with recruiting officers, the standards may vary away from Peter Perfect Policeman.

My first encounter was with an officer who claimed he could prove anything in court he wanted, and tried to, overtly perjuring himself to the point of comedy and dismay of the prosecutor. My least memorable was when a high school acquaintance joined a large force, then indicated he couldn't "wait until he shot his first (pejorative racial slur)". He was quickly beyond successful. Sickening, but ultimately fired. My last was with one of the most professional persons I've ever met, I'd love to hire him as a Manager. You guys probably have similar experiences.

If everyone (literally) knew they were getting videotaped and a review on their and last effort, think they'd act a little more professional? I'd also hope that officers doing a really good thing get a complement posted. Just a thought.

Wag · December 17, 2010, 09:45 AM

These stories actually make me wonder.

I've never had a bad encounter with a cop. Knock on wood.

Obviously, there are bad apples in any group but I have to believe that the occasional "bad cop" is an exception, not a rule.

Not to disparage the OP or any other person with a situation like this, but the wisdom of the ages remains, "Until you have both sides of the story, you're not in a position to make any judgments." Even then it can be difficult to get to the bottom of the story. For the sake of discussion, we can take it at face value here.

Still, with as many encounters as cops have with the public, if the majority of them were bad encounters, we'd hear a lot more about it than we do.

--Wag--

DiscoRacing · December 17, 2010, 10:35 AM

Well in my OP...and being the OP... I dont appreciate being handcuffed for 20 minutes with a valid permit for the guns Im carrying, and a clear police record...dont matter which side I stand on..... And I can handle that they wanted to check us out..and be safe...but after they checked the vehicle and everyone was ID checked out....I was still handcuffed for another 5 to 10 minutes.

stantonizm · December 19, 2010, 09:48 PM

The majority of police I've run into in WV have been good guys. I was pulled over once though and searched illegally. The officer was cussing at us the whole time. He also lied about the county he pulled us over in and added a failure to signal charge to my ticket. My cousin, who has long hair and wears tie-dye shirts, got pulled over for speeding once. He did not consent to a search and was held for 2 or 3 hours until they brought the drug dogs to sniff his car. They also went through his cell phone calls asking which ones were drug dealers. The dogs didn't find anything though so they let him go.

On a good note, I had my truck broken into at a movie theater and thought my gun had been stolen. It turned out the thieves had actually knocked it under the seat and didn't find it. The officer that responded was helpful, didn't ask to see my ccw, and just told me I if I was going to carry it would be better to keep it on my person instead of leave it in the truck.

December 16, 2010, 03:42 PM	#102
Wag Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 988	Glad to know you followed through with a complaint. If necessary, you could press it further in the court of public opinion: Send a letter to the editor. --Wag-- __________________ "Great genius will always encounter fierce opposition from mediocre minds." --Albert Einstein.

December 16, 2010, 08:19 PM	#103
TXAZ Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 2010 Location: McMurdo Sound Texas Posts: 4,322	Cops are a subset of society, good and bad PHP Code: `Quote Glenn Dee: Once again... Having a CCW license or permit does not automatically make you a good guy. It just may mean that you havent been caught yet.` PHP Code: `Quote DiscoRacing: Well along that line of logic/thinking then.... ....Wearing a badge does not automatically make you a good guy either.` Most everyone has had encounters with officers some good, some maybe not so. Considering how difficult some agencies seem to have with recruiting officers, the standards may vary away from Peter Perfect Policeman. My first encounter was with an officer who claimed he could prove anything in court he wanted, and tried to, overtly perjuring himself to the point of comedy and dismay of the prosecutor. My least memorable was when a high school acquaintance joined a large force, then indicated he couldn't "wait until he shot his first (pejorative racial slur)". He was quickly beyond successful. Sickening, but ultimately fired. My last was with one of the most professional persons I've ever met, I'd love to hire him as a Manager. You guys probably have similar experiences. If everyone (literally) knew they were getting videotaped and a review on their and last effort, think they'd act a little more professional? I'd also hope that officers doing a really good thing get a complement posted. Just a thought. __________________ Cave illos in guns et backhoes

December 17, 2010, 09:45 AM	#104
Wag Senior Member Join Date: October 22, 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 988	These stories actually make me wonder. I've never had a bad encounter with a cop. Knock on wood. Obviously, there are bad apples in any group but I have to believe that the occasional "bad cop" is an exception, not a rule. Not to disparage the OP or any other person with a situation like this, but the wisdom of the ages remains, "Until you have both sides of the story, you're not in a position to make any judgments." Even then it can be difficult to get to the bottom of the story. For the sake of discussion, we can take it at face value here. Still, with as many encounters as cops have with the public, if the majority of them were bad encounters, we'd hear a lot more about it than we do. --Wag-- __________________ "Great genius will always encounter fierce opposition from mediocre minds." --Albert Einstein.

December 17, 2010, 10:35 AM	#105
DiscoRacing Senior Member Join Date: December 19, 2008 Location: milton, wv Posts: 3,640	Well in my OP...and being the OP... I dont appreciate being handcuffed for 20 minutes with a valid permit for the guns Im carrying, and a clear police record...dont matter which side I stand on..... And I can handle that they wanted to check us out..and be safe...but after they checked the vehicle and everyone was ID checked out....I was still handcuffed for another 5 to 10 minutes. __________________ Desert Eagle Alliance Group Launcher Extraordinaire ______ ----Get Busy Live'n.....Or....Get Busy Die'n......Red -------They call me Dr. Bob,,,, I have a PhD in S&W Last edited by DiscoRacing; December 17, 2010 at 10:43 AM.

December 16, 2010, 03:26 PM	#101
sixgun67 Senior Member Join Date: October 27, 2009 Location: New Philadelphia, Oh Posts: 238	Great job, filing the report. Get it documented, if it hits a sore spot for the police, so be it. Maybe they would think twice should there ever be a next time. sixgun

December 19, 2010, 09:48 PM	#106
stantonizm Senior Member Join Date: May 2, 2005 Location: West Virginia Posts: 148	The majority of police I've run into in WV have been good guys. I was pulled over once though and searched illegally. The officer was cussing at us the whole time. He also lied about the county he pulled us over in and added a failure to signal charge to my ticket. My cousin, who has long hair and wears tie-dye shirts, got pulled over for speeding once. He did not consent to a search and was held for 2 or 3 hours until they brought the drug dogs to sniff his car. They also went through his cell phone calls asking which ones were drug dealers. The dogs didn't find anything though so they let him go. On a good note, I had my truck broken into at a movie theater and thought my gun had been stolen. It turned out the thieves had actually knocked it under the seat and didn't find it. The officer that responded was helpful, didn't ask to see my ccw, and just told me I if I was going to carry it would be better to keep it on my person instead of leave it in the truck.