Lubing a carbide resizing die? - Page 3

schmellba99 · February 17, 2014, 11:56 AM

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Now, my brass reconditioning process is to tumble with dry media (corn cob); lube, size/decap; tumble with SS pins; flair. This gives me nice, super clean brass. AND I really much prefer the way brass resizes with lubricant.

Just out of curiosity, why go through the extra step with the corncob tumbling?

I deprime with a universal depriming die, then wet tumble in SSTL pins. Dry my brass, either lube with One Shot (pistol) or Dillon (rifle), then load away. With pistol, I'm done after loading because the dry lube leaves no sticky residue. With rifle, I have to either spray with non-CFC brake parts cleaner and tumble in a towel, or toss in a vibratory tumbler for 5-10 minutes. Eliminates the need for the tumbling in dry media prior to sizing completely, and you are working with clean brass in your actual loading dies.

Nick_C_S · February 17, 2014, 11:58 AM

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A dry lube like One Shot doesn't need to be removed.

Good to know. A couple months ago, I picked up some One Shot at my LGS. Can't remember why - I think maybe to clean my dies with it??

Anyway, I have yet to use it for anything. Might have to check it out.

Nick_C_S · February 17, 2014, 12:03 PM

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Just out of curiosity, why go through the extra step with the corncob tumbling?

I dry (corncob) tumble to clean the outside of the brass prior to resizing. I don't want to put "range grit" though my dies.

Once they're decapped, I then do the final cleaning with SS pins. This gets them nice and clean - inside n out; and most importantly, the primer pockets.

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I deprime with a universal depriming die.

I just bought one of those from Midway this week. The idea being to save a cleaning step - as you mention. I deprimed about 30 45ACP cases with it and it sent the primers flying everywhere. I could not contain them. So for now at least, I'm sticking with my two-step cleaning method. I really don't mind. The whole process of loading - from start to finish - is a hobby I enjoy. My loading bench is the best 8.5sq/ft on the planet; okay, second-best

coldbeer · February 17, 2014, 10:50 PM

I tried a Lee carbide die but went back to steel dies for 30 carbine. If I have to lube the cases anyway I don't see the point of carbide dies

Urban_Redneck · February 18, 2014, 06:15 AM

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A dry lube like One Shot doesn't need to be removed.
Good to know. A couple months ago, I picked up some One Shot at my LGS. Can't remember why - I think maybe to clean my dies with it??

Anyway, I have yet to use it for anything. Might have to check it out.

There are at least two One Shot lubes

I hand cleaned a handful of cases with the cleaner/lube and it seemed to work well (9mm carbide dies). Now, I use a blast of the One Shot Case Lube, works great.

under_dawg · February 18, 2014, 01:23 PM

I swiped a can of Pledge from the hall closet. I spray a little on the corner of an old sock and wipe the excess dust from the tumbler off with the dry end of the sock, and dab the brass with the wet spot of pledge. I had a small piece of dust or sand get in my sizing die years ago and wiping the brass off has cured that from happening again. Seems like I read that (the Pledge as lube) in Lee's Reloading book when I first started reloading several years ago.

Nick_C_S · February 18, 2014, 01:42 PM

Good to know Urban Redneck. The one I have is neither of the ones you pic'd. It's "extreme 4x yadda yadda yadda" something or other. Anyway, it appears to be for cleaning guns. I'm not gonna use it to lube cases now.

Thanks. I didn't know there were different products.

schmellba99 · February 18, 2014, 02:32 PM

FYI - the One Shot case lube is not to be used as the lube for things like rifle brass. You WILL hate life trying (ask me how I know.....)

It's great for cleaning and dry lubing things like dies or your press ram or shell plate or for shooting on straight walled pistol brass with a carbide die (that's what I was referencing).

I've never had an issue with a LEE or Hornady universal decapping die shooting primers everywhere - it deprimes the same as a sizing/depriming die. I've also gotten to where I deprime everything in my LnL AP - it goes significantly faster than using the single stage for this purpose, and the system of catching spent primers on the LnL is probably the best on the market. I have a couple of whiskey bottles filled to the brim with spent primers that never so much as came close to the floor (and I'm really thankful for that too - few things are worse than picking primers up out of carpet to keep the ire of the Missus to a minimum).

lostintheozone · February 20, 2014, 08:27 PM

I lube everything now even with carbide. I started reloading 30 carbine with a carbide die and Lee said to lube those. So I use Dillon Case Lube now on my 38 spl and 45 ACP too. Just lay them in a flat metal tin (I use a pie pan I stole from my wife), and spray one side. Makes sizing a lot easier and I'm thinking it's less wear on your dies.

snuffy · February 22, 2014, 07:20 PM

I don't know why anyone is so worried about cleaning the lube off the shells after running them in carbide dies with some lube.

Just toss the loads in a tumbler with some bare corn-cob for 20 minutes or so. Lube gone! Not a good idea with lead boolits, they have residual lube on them that attracts dirt.

February 18, 2014, 01:42 PM	#57
Nick_C_S Senior Member Join Date: March 21, 2013 Location: Idaho Posts: 5,522	Good to know Urban Redneck. The one I have is neither of the ones you pic'd. It's "extreme 4x yadda yadda yadda" something or other. Anyway, it appears to be for cleaning guns. I'm not gonna use it to lube cases now. Thanks. I didn't know there were different products. __________________ Gun control laws benefit only criminals and politicians - but then, I repeat myself. Life Member, National Rifle Association

February 22, 2014, 07:20 PM	#60
snuffy Senior Member Join Date: May 20, 2001 Location: Oshkosh wi. Posts: 3,055	I don't know why anyone is so worried about cleaning the lube off the shells after running them in carbide dies with some lube. Just toss the loads in a tumbler with some bare corn-cob for 20 minutes or so. Lube gone! Not a good idea with lead boolits, they have residual lube on them that attracts dirt. __________________ The more people I meet, the more I love my dog They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?

February 17, 2014, 10:50 PM	#54
coldbeer Junior member Join Date: February 21, 2012 Location: Woodhaven MI Posts: 477	I tried a Lee carbide die but went back to steel dies for 30 carbine. If I have to lube the cases anyway I don't see the point of carbide dies

February 18, 2014, 01:23 PM	#56
under_dawg Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Cayce, SC Posts: 222	I swiped a can of Pledge from the hall closet. I spray a little on the corner of an old sock and wipe the excess dust from the tumbler off with the dry end of the sock, and dab the brass with the wet spot of pledge. I had a small piece of dust or sand get in my sizing die years ago and wiping the brass off has cured that from happening again. Seems like I read that (the Pledge as lube) in Lee's Reloading book when I first started reloading several years ago.

February 18, 2014, 02:32 PM	#58
schmellba99 Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2008 Posts: 803	FYI - the One Shot case lube is not to be used as the lube for things like rifle brass. You WILL hate life trying (ask me how I know.....) It's great for cleaning and dry lubing things like dies or your press ram or shell plate or for shooting on straight walled pistol brass with a carbide die (that's what I was referencing). I've never had an issue with a LEE or Hornady universal decapping die shooting primers everywhere - it deprimes the same as a sizing/depriming die. I've also gotten to where I deprime everything in my LnL AP - it goes significantly faster than using the single stage for this purpose, and the system of catching spent primers on the LnL is probably the best on the market. I have a couple of whiskey bottles filled to the brim with spent primers that never so much as came close to the floor (and I'm really thankful for that too - few things are worse than picking primers up out of carpet to keep the ire of the Missus to a minimum).

February 20, 2014, 08:27 PM	#59
lostintheozone Member Join Date: February 12, 2013 Posts: 33	I lube everything now even with carbide. I started reloading 30 carbine with a carbide die and Lee said to lube those. So I use Dillon Case Lube now on my 38 spl and 45 ACP too. Just lay them in a flat metal tin (I use a pie pan I stole from my wife), and spray one side. Makes sizing a lot easier and I'm thinking it's less wear on your dies.