Arisaka ammo?

Wrothgar · February 22, 2009, 10:48 AM

Where can you find it? I found an AMAZING antique/surplus gun shop in Dallas called Jackson Armory and they had some Arisaka's but I'm not going to buy any unless I know I can get ammo for it.

K20350 · February 22, 2009, 11:36 AM

Search the net for some hornady ammo. They made a run of a bunch of obsolete and military calibers. I have seen it at Cabelas and some gun shows. If I remember right price was good too. I picked some up for my Arisaka but havent fired it yet.

Sabot · February 22, 2009, 11:38 AM

Jap ammo can be hard to find and expensive. Cabelas has Hornady for $23.99, MidwayUSA has Norma for $39.49, and Ammunition To Go occassionally has "unknown" for $20.99. You won't find any surplus ammo and I have never found any good deals on Gunbroker. This is the type of round that needs to be reloaded, I will start doing that soon.

K20350 · February 22, 2009, 11:47 AM

Here is the link for Cabelas

http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0037464215974a.shtml

Tamara · February 24, 2009, 11:21 AM

Which Arisaka? 6.5 or 7.7?

Tom2 · February 24, 2009, 10:22 PM

No big deal to reload, dies are available and you just use the same bullets you would use in a .303 British in Spitzer form. I tried some of the round nose bullets in a type 99 once, very very accurate but the round nose would not feed at all. So had to go to lighter Spitzers but they shot nearly as well. Brass is available. Some kinds of the brass is expensive, but unless you are gonna go ape, you can keep reloading 50-100 cases for a long time. Well the Norma brass is expensive, the other stuff not so bad.

keys85 · February 24, 2009, 11:15 PM

My type 99 Arisaka is extremely accurate. Crappy trigger, but when locked in prone and letting the trigger break as best as I can, I can hit the X ring every time at 100 yards. Hornady does make ammo for this rifle. Brass is also widely available.

I've had very good luck reforming 270 winchester brass to 7.7x58 Arisaka. I load 180 grain remington core-loks over 37-40 grains of H-4895. I'm not sure if any bullet manufacturer makes a long 174 grain military bullet similar to the original loading to achieve the proper OAL. I'm sure seating the rounds longer would help with accuracy as it appears the rifles have long throats designed for the longer bullets (this is also especially true with the 6.5 arisaka). Reducing the "jump" probably would increase accuracy, but in any case, I've attain very impressive groups with standard 180 grain .311"-.312" bullets loaded in the 270 reformed cases. The 270win case necks are not as thick so they do not have as much neck tension, but do not pose nay problem when going with a light taper crimp, or if you prefer, you can crimp at the canulure.

kwells6 · February 25, 2009, 12:24 AM

priv partisans makes it...

and for reloading the 7.7.... what works best for me is ol' 7.92x57... 8mm mauser brass...

Wrothgar · February 27, 2009, 08:41 PM

what about a 6.5?

Tamara · February 27, 2009, 10:04 PM

AFAIK, if you need 6.5 Arisaka, you're stuck with Norma.

(Which means that if the magazine is empty, the rifle is totalled...

)

Crankylove · February 28, 2009, 11:17 PM

For my Brothers Arisaka in 7.7x58, we use a couple old sockets my grandfather made to cut down '06 cases, trim and fire form them, and you are good to go. The rim isn't quite the same size, but they work ok.

ksstargazer · March 1, 2009, 04:02 PM

I found ammo for the 7.7 Arisaka in a number of places.
I have some resized 30-06 ammo that I got for $1 per round from a reloader friend.
I also have some WW2 ammo for display that I got for $1.50 per round that I bought off of gunbroker.
I bought some new at a gunshow for $1 per round (graf cased).
It isn't common but I usually can find some somewhere.
Reloading seems to me to be the way to go with this round if you shoot it in great numbers.

.300 Weatherby Mag · March 1, 2009, 04:11 PM

No problems getting the ammo.... I own both the 6.5 and the 7.7...

http://www.grafs.com/ammo/164

http://www.grafs.com/ammo/239

Quote:

AFAIK, if you need 6.5 Arisaka, you're stuck with Norma.

(Which means that if the magazine is empty, the rifle is totalled... )

Not true... Hornady and PCI as well...

Tamara · March 1, 2009, 09:02 PM

Forgot that Hornady was loading it.

Didn't pay attention to PCI: I have a very personal beef with them. I wouldn't buy their ammo if it was a penny a round.

cornbush · March 2, 2009, 12:20 AM

I form cases for my 7.7 from 06 cases, have loaded from 125 up to 174 grain bullets in .311 with no problems. Surprisingly 180 grain .308's shoot good too.

Radar3006 · March 13, 2009, 12:58 PM

Ammo is not the problem what you have to watch for is the late war Arisaka's that were made out of pig iron that should never be shot but just hung on the wall ....I went to the Jackson Armory web site and it sure seems they are very proud of a lot of the weapons they have ..$1600.00 for a 98 mauser without a rear sight and the top wood missing is crazy....

Tamara · March 13, 2009, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radar3006

...what you have to watch for is the late war Arisaka's that were made out of pig iron...

You might be confusing two things: "Last Ditch" Type 99's with potentially iffy heat treat, and "pig iron" training rifles, many of which don't even have locking lugs.

Neither of which would be a good idea to load up with Norma and take to the deer woods...

TEDDY · March 14, 2009, 07:44 PM

I use GRAFS brass,in a number of calibers from 6.5 jap 6.5 carcano,7.7 jap,
8 mm lebel,and 7.65 argentina.$39 per 100.
you just have to get as many cat as you can,in between I use midsouthshooters.com for most all my reloading supplies except powder and primers.I bought 50,000primers and have 100 lb of powders.

TEDDY · March 14, 2009, 07:50 PM

there are not any bad arasakas,even the last guns were safe.what there were were idiots who could not tell a drill rifle from a combat weapon.I have had them all,the rifles that locked the bolt in thw barrel and the drill rifle with a cast receiver and stub of 6.5 barrel with apiece of cold rold rod for barrel drilled from both ends and not meeting in the middle and since I had them in late 40s early 50s they had not been bubbed.

February 22, 2009, 10:48 AM	#1
Wrothgar Junior member Join Date: January 28, 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 778	Arisaka ammo? Where can you find it? I found an AMAZING antique/surplus gun shop in Dallas called Jackson Armory and they had some Arisaka's but I'm not going to buy any unless I know I can get ammo for it.

February 24, 2009, 11:21 AM	#5
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	Which Arisaka? 6.5 or 7.7? __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

February 24, 2009, 10:22 PM	#6
Tom2 Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 5,676	No big deal to reload, dies are available and you just use the same bullets you would use in a .303 British in Spitzer form. I tried some of the round nose bullets in a type 99 once, very very accurate but the round nose would not feed at all. So had to go to lighter Spitzers but they shot nearly as well. Brass is available. Some kinds of the brass is expensive, but unless you are gonna go ape, you can keep reloading 50-100 cases for a long time. Well the Norma brass is expensive, the other stuff not so bad. __________________ Your gun is like your nose, it is just wrong for someone else to pick it for you!

February 25, 2009, 12:24 AM	#8
kwells6 Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Central Arkansas Posts: 437	priv partisans makes it... and for reloading the 7.7.... what works best for me is ol' 7.92x57... 8mm mauser brass... __________________ "Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it."

February 27, 2009, 10:04 PM	#10
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	AFAIK, if you need 6.5 Arisaka, you're stuck with Norma. (Which means that if the magazine is empty, the rifle is totalled... ) __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

February 22, 2009, 11:36 AM	#2
K20350 Member Join Date: September 19, 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 19	Search the net for some hornady ammo. They made a run of a bunch of obsolete and military calibers. I have seen it at Cabelas and some gun shows. If I remember right price was good too. I picked some up for my Arisaka but havent fired it yet.

February 22, 2009, 11:38 AM	#3
Sabot Member Join Date: October 23, 2008 Location: Simi Valley, CA Posts: 34	Jap ammo can be hard to find and expensive. Cabelas has Hornady for $23.99, MidwayUSA has Norma for $39.49, and Ammunition To Go occassionally has "unknown" for $20.99. You won't find any surplus ammo and I have never found any good deals on Gunbroker. This is the type of round that needs to be reloaded, I will start doing that soon.

February 22, 2009, 11:47 AM	#4
K20350 Member Join Date: September 19, 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 19	Here is the link for Cabelas http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0037464215974a.shtml

February 24, 2009, 11:15 PM	#7
keys85 Junior member Join Date: September 20, 2008 Posts: 199	My type 99 Arisaka is extremely accurate. Crappy trigger, but when locked in prone and letting the trigger break as best as I can, I can hit the X ring every time at 100 yards. Hornady does make ammo for this rifle. Brass is also widely available. I've had very good luck reforming 270 winchester brass to 7.7x58 Arisaka. I load 180 grain remington core-loks over 37-40 grains of H-4895. I'm not sure if any bullet manufacturer makes a long 174 grain military bullet similar to the original loading to achieve the proper OAL. I'm sure seating the rounds longer would help with accuracy as it appears the rifles have long throats designed for the longer bullets (this is also especially true with the 6.5 arisaka). Reducing the "jump" probably would increase accuracy, but in any case, I've attain very impressive groups with standard 180 grain .311"-.312" bullets loaded in the 270 reformed cases. The 270win case necks are not as thick so they do not have as much neck tension, but do not pose nay problem when going with a light taper crimp, or if you prefer, you can crimp at the canulure.

February 27, 2009, 08:41 PM	#9
Wrothgar Junior member Join Date: January 28, 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 778	what about a 6.5?

February 28, 2009, 11:17 PM	#11
Crankylove Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2008 Location: 8B ID Posts: 1,752	For my Brothers Arisaka in 7.7x58, we use a couple old sockets my grandfather made to cut down '06 cases, trim and fire form them, and you are good to go. The rim isn't quite the same size, but they work ok. __________________ The answer to 1984 is 1776

March 1, 2009, 04:02 PM	#12
ksstargazer Senior Member Join Date: December 28, 2004 Location: Flint Hills of Kansas Posts: 316	I found ammo for the 7.7 Arisaka in a number of places. I have some resized 30-06 ammo that I got for $1 per round from a reloader friend. I also have some WW2 ammo for display that I got for $1.50 per round that I bought off of gunbroker. I bought some new at a gunshow for $1 per round (graf cased). It isn't common but I usually can find some somewhere. Reloading seems to me to be the way to go with this round if you shoot it in great numbers.

March 1, 2009, 09:02 PM	#14
Tamara Moderator Emeritus Join Date: March 11, 2000 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 16,002	Forgot that Hornady was loading it. Didn't pay attention to PCI: I have a very personal beef with them. I wouldn't buy their ammo if it was a penny a round. __________________ MOLON LABE! 2% Unobtainium, 98% Hypetanium. The Arms Room: An Online Museum.

March 2, 2009, 12:20 AM	#15
cornbush Senior Member Join Date: September 29, 2008 Location: The retarded place below Idaho Posts: 1,408	I form cases for my 7.7 from 06 cases, have loaded from 125 up to 174 grain bullets in .311 with no problems. Surprisingly 180 grain .308's shoot good too.

March 13, 2009, 12:58 PM	#16
Radar3006 Member Join Date: March 13, 2009 Posts: 15	Ammo is not the problem what you have to watch for is the late war Arisaka's that were made out of pig iron that should never be shot but just hung on the wall ....I went to the Jackson Armory web site and it sure seems they are very proud of a lot of the weapons they have ..$1600.00 for a 98 mauser without a rear sight and the top wood missing is crazy....

March 14, 2009, 07:44 PM	#18
TEDDY Junior member Join Date: December 10, 2006 Location: MANNING SC Posts: 837	ammo I use GRAFS brass,in a number of calibers from 6.5 jap 6.5 carcano,7.7 jap, 8 mm lebel,and 7.65 argentina.$39 per 100. you just have to get as many cat as you can,in between I use midsouthshooters.com for most all my reloading supplies except powder and primers.I bought 50,000primers and have 100 lb of powders.

March 14, 2009, 07:50 PM	#19
TEDDY Junior member Join Date: December 10, 2006 Location: MANNING SC Posts: 837	bad ARASAKAS there are not any bad arasakas,even the last guns were safe.what there were were idiots who could not tell a drill rifle from a combat weapon.I have had them all,the rifles that locked the bolt in thw barrel and the drill rifle with a cast receiver and stub of 6.5 barrel with apiece of cold rold rod for barrel drilled from both ends and not meeting in the middle and since I had them in late 40s early 50s they had not been bubbed.

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