Just a picture of how my 1887 SBS will look

Deja vu · July 26, 2014, 08:22 PM

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it will have a 9.75 inch barrel

Currently it still has a 18.5 inch barrel just some of the barrel is hidden under the blanket

I had Coyote Cap shorten the magazine tube and slick up the action.

Cant wait till I get my stamp back and it can look like this for real! So far its been pretty fun with birdshot and some buckshot (have not tried slugs)

p.s. hope others can see it.

CCCLVII · July 26, 2014, 09:01 PM

very cool! how many rounds does that hold? I know the 1887 is famous for holding 1 more round in the receiver. It would look very cool in a leather scabbard on the back of a Harley.

Willie Lowman · July 26, 2014, 11:35 PM

Oh man that's freakin' awesome.

Venom1956 · March 5, 2015, 07:38 PM

what 1887 is that? did u make the pistol grip yourself?

Machineguntony · March 6, 2015, 03:08 PM

Very cool.

I want one. I don't know why I want one. I just want one.

I'm gonna make me a Mad Max shotgun.

Venom1956 · March 7, 2015, 01:47 AM

terminator 2 thats why.

Machineguntony · March 7, 2015, 09:25 AM

How does one go about making one of these shotguns legally?

Am I supposed to cut the gun down, give it to my dealer to hold, and then submit the form for the SBS? Or do I submit the form to make an SBS, and then cut the shotgun after ATF approves the SBS?

Sharkbite · March 7, 2015, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Or do I submit the form to make an SBS, and then cut the shotgun after ATF approves the SBS?

This

Form 1 (just like an SBR). Wait on approval, then manufacture the SBS. No dealer needed

Deja vu · March 10, 2015, 09:48 AM

I dont have any pictures yet, but ill post some soon. It is now cut and had the bead reinstalled and had chokes put in. It had to be the thin chokes but it worked! I know have 5 chokes for it. Cylinder, Skeet, Modified, Improved and extra full! There are some other options but those are all the ones that my smith had in stock.

Deja vu · March 10, 2015, 10:11 AM

the total package with the pistol grip is about the same size as my 45-70 BFR. Also shown with my shoulder stock for it.

[IMG]10150853%201.jpg[/IMG]

Showing the chokes and the bead.

the barrel ended up being 10 inches which is great because I can buy the Salvo 12 shotgun silencer now if I feel like it!

It holds 5 rounds 3 in the tube, 1 in the carrier and 1 in the chamber

Deja vu · March 10, 2015, 10:18 AM

As far as making it legally:

1. Buy the shotgun. Mine was the chiappa Bootlegger Deluxe.
2. Submit the paper work for a form 1 shotgun
3. Get the shotgun engraved with your name and city/state.
4. Wait for the feds to approve
5. Take it to a good gun smith to get it cut, threaded and such!

My smith has never done a NFA weapon before but every one said that he was the guy in the area to go to for shotgun work. He said he wanted to play it safe so he asked that I schedule a day to spend the day at the gun smith and watch him cut and thread the barrel. He also asked for a copy of my stamp.

It was a pretty fun day (actually only about 2 hours) hanging out at the smith and watching him work!

I have chronographed a few slugs and buckshot through it. I am surprised how little velocity I have lost from when it had an 18.5 inch barrel.

The buckshot is about 75 FPS loss the slugs are about 150 FPS loss. With the chokes it actually patterns better than it did with the 18.5 inch factory barrel (Don't think it had a choke) The only thing that really changed is the muzzle blast. It now is part flame thrower.

I plan to take it hunting this fall, with the shoulder stock installed of course.

Deja vu · March 10, 2015, 10:30 AM

Not my picture but this shows what other people got comparing long and short barrel shotguns.

Venom1956 · March 10, 2015, 11:46 AM

have you flip cocked it yet?

Don't lie!

Deja vu · March 10, 2015, 01:23 PM

nope the lever is too small and would break my fingers. I have been thinking about doing a leaver stretch though.

Venom1956 · March 10, 2015, 04:52 PM

Do. It. Now.

Husqvarna · April 4, 2015, 03:09 PM

a handgun 12 gauge and

Quote:

my 45-70 BFR

do you hate your wrists?

**44 AMP** · April 5, 2015, 03:54 PM

Quote:

do you hate your wrists?

Probably not, but he might regret something 30 years from now!

Deja vu · April 7, 2015, 06:45 PM

I usually shoot the BFR with light loads. Typically 405 grains at about 800FPS

I have shot a few 550 grain bullets at about 1300 FPS and those do hurt but the BFR is a huge revolver and weighs as much as some rifles. The recoil is not as bad as you might think. I have shot 44mags that kick more.

the 405 grain at 800 FPS feels like shooting my Jframe with factory 158 grain 357 magnums only not near as loud.

July 26, 2014, 08:22 PM	#1
Deja vu Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Border of Idaho & Montana Posts: 2,584	Just a picture of how my 1887 SBS will look [IMG][/IMG] it will have a 9.75 inch barrel Currently it still has a 18.5 inch barrel just some of the barrel is hidden under the blanket I had Coyote Cap shorten the magazine tube and slick up the action. Cant wait till I get my stamp back and it can look like this for real! So far its been pretty fun with birdshot and some buckshot (have not tried slugs) p.s. hope others can see it. __________________ Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull. all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well...

July 26, 2014, 09:01 PM	#2
CCCLVII Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2012 Location: Idaho Posts: 432	very cool! how many rounds does that hold? I know the 1887 is famous for holding 1 more round in the receiver. It would look very cool in a leather scabbard on the back of a Harley. __________________ Always looking for a good hunt!

March 5, 2015, 07:38 PM	#4
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	what 1887 is that? did u make the pistol grip yourself? __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

March 6, 2015, 03:08 PM	#5
Machineguntony Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2013 Posts: 1,277	Very cool. I want one. I don't know why I want one. I just want one. I'm gonna make me a Mad Max shotgun. __________________ Sent from Motorola DynaTac 8000x

March 7, 2015, 01:47 AM	#6
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	terminator 2 thats why. __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

July 26, 2014, 11:35 PM	#3
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 3,006	Oh man that's freakin' awesome.

March 7, 2015, 09:25 AM	#7
Machineguntony Senior Member Join Date: June 22, 2013 Posts: 1,277	How does one go about making one of these shotguns legally? Am I supposed to cut the gun down, give it to my dealer to hold, and then submit the form for the SBS? Or do I submit the form to make an SBS, and then cut the shotgun after ATF approves the SBS? __________________ Sent from Motorola DynaTac 8000x

March 10, 2015, 09:48 AM	#9
Deja vu Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Border of Idaho & Montana Posts: 2,584	I dont have any pictures yet, but ill post some soon. It is now cut and had the bead reinstalled and had chokes put in. It had to be the thin chokes but it worked! I know have 5 chokes for it. Cylinder, Skeet, Modified, Improved and extra full! There are some other options but those are all the ones that my smith had in stock. __________________ Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull. all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well...

March 10, 2015, 10:11 AM	#10
Deja vu Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Border of Idaho & Montana Posts: 2,584	Just some quick pics I took with my crappy dumb phone the total package with the pistol grip is about the same size as my 45-70 BFR. Also shown with my shoulder stock for it. [IMG]10150853%201.jpg[/IMG] Showing the chokes and the bead. the barrel ended up being 10 inches which is great because I can buy the Salvo 12 shotgun silencer now if I feel like it! It holds 5 rounds 3 in the tube, 1 in the carrier and 1 in the chamber __________________ Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull. all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well... Last edited by Deja vu; March 12, 2015 at 06:49 AM.

March 10, 2015, 10:18 AM	#11
Deja vu Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Border of Idaho & Montana Posts: 2,584	As far as making it legally: 1. Buy the shotgun. Mine was the chiappa Bootlegger Deluxe. 2. Submit the paper work for a form 1 shotgun 3. Get the shotgun engraved with your name and city/state. 4. Wait for the feds to approve 5. Take it to a good gun smith to get it cut, threaded and such! My smith has never done a NFA weapon before but every one said that he was the guy in the area to go to for shotgun work. He said he wanted to play it safe so he asked that I schedule a day to spend the day at the gun smith and watch him cut and thread the barrel. He also asked for a copy of my stamp. It was a pretty fun day (actually only about 2 hours) hanging out at the smith and watching him work! I have chronographed a few slugs and buckshot through it. I am surprised how little velocity I have lost from when it had an 18.5 inch barrel. The buckshot is about 75 FPS loss the slugs are about 150 FPS loss. With the chokes it actually patterns better than it did with the 18.5 inch factory barrel (Don't think it had a choke) The only thing that really changed is the muzzle blast. It now is part flame thrower. I plan to take it hunting this fall, with the shoulder stock installed of course. __________________ Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull. all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well... Last edited by Deja vu; March 10, 2015 at 10:24 AM.

March 10, 2015, 10:30 AM	#12
Deja vu Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Border of Idaho & Montana Posts: 2,584	Not my picture but this shows what other people got comparing long and short barrel shotguns. __________________ Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull. all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well...

March 10, 2015, 11:46 AM	#13
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	have you flip cocked it yet? Don't lie! __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

March 10, 2015, 01:23 PM	#14
Deja vu Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Border of Idaho & Montana Posts: 2,584	nope the lever is too small and would break my fingers. I have been thinking about doing a leaver stretch though. __________________ Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull. all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well...

March 10, 2015, 04:52 PM	#15
Venom1956 Senior Member Join Date: October 4, 2008 Location: WI Posts: 3,656	Do. It. Now. __________________ E-Shock rounds are engineered to expend maximum energy into soft targets, turning the density mass into an expanding rotational cone of NyTrilium matrix particles, causing neurological collapse to the central nervous system.- Yeah I can do that. I guarantee you will know it if a bicyclist hits your house going 1000 mph. -Smaug

April 7, 2015, 06:45 PM	#18
Deja vu Senior Member Join Date: March 14, 2010 Location: Border of Idaho & Montana Posts: 2,584	I usually shoot the BFR with light loads. Typically 405 grains at about 800FPS I have shot a few 550 grain bullets at about 1300 FPS and those do hurt but the BFR is a huge revolver and weighs as much as some rifles. The recoil is not as bad as you might think. I have shot 44mags that kick more. the 405 grain at 800 FPS feels like shooting my Jframe with factory 158 grain 357 magnums only not near as loud. __________________ Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull. all 26 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple. Wish my wife did as well...

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