Anybody load .219 Zipper?

45ACPete · March 23, 2011, 08:39 PM

I have a Marlin 336 in .219 Zipper that has been relegated to a back corner of my safe but is now up front and begging to be shot. I have new brass which has been formed from 25-35 Win. The only loading manual I have that has data on the .219 Zipper lists powders that are either obsolete or not generally available. The powders I have which might be suitable are 4198, H335, or perhaps H110. One load that an oldtimer supplied me with sometime back was the Speer 52g HP with 25g Vitavouri 2520.
Mindful of the risk when pointed bullets are loaded in a tubular magazine I ordered some Speer 46g flat points and also some of Midsouth's Varmint Nightmare 55g softpoints. Anybody out there who shoots and loads this caliber?

Hookem2530 · March 28, 2011, 03:46 PM

There was a really good article in Handloader Mag. You can access it here:
http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazin...265partial.pdf

This is also a good article with load data.
http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/zipper.htm

These two have a bunch of loads, but they are by subscription.
http://ammoguide.com/cgi-bin/ai.cgi?...svgI&catid=204
http://www.loaddata.com/members/listing.cfm?type=1

I will send you a spreadsheet with load data I have acquired.

Jason

45ACPete · April 1, 2011, 12:47 PM

Thanks, Jason--I had about given up on getting an answer. I'm very glad to finally have some loading data. I'll tell you what I've tried in the meantime. By comparing case capacities and recommended loads for the .223 and .225 Winchester and also looking over my powders on hand I concluded that 24g of H335 behind a Speer 52g HP ought to be a reasonable load. I used new brass that I formed from 25-35 Win--I have the RCBS forming dies which I bought from an old gentleman who used to sell .219 brass but had given it up. Anyway, I shot ten rounds of my loads--the first three at 25 yds to get zeroed ( I had just mounted a 10X Burris on my Marlin 336). I got the elevation about right but ran out of right windage--I was at the limit and still about an inch left. Went ahead and moved the target to 50 yds--first two shots left (as expected) and maybe an inch apart. The next five shots keyholed a foot or so above the aiming point!
What gives? I dunno--in looking over the load data you referenced H335 was mentioned once so it can't be a completely unreasonable choice. I'll get some H-4895--it seems like a consensus choice. Any ideas as to the wild inaccuracy I experienced?
Pete--e-mail [email protected]

March 23, 2011, 08:39 PM	#1
45ACPete Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Posts: 35	Anybody load .219 Zipper? I have a Marlin 336 in .219 Zipper that has been relegated to a back corner of my safe but is now up front and begging to be shot. I have new brass which has been formed from 25-35 Win. The only loading manual I have that has data on the .219 Zipper lists powders that are either obsolete or not generally available. The powders I have which might be suitable are 4198, H335, or perhaps H110. One load that an oldtimer supplied me with sometime back was the Speer 52g HP with 25g Vitavouri 2520. Mindful of the risk when pointed bullets are loaded in a tubular magazine I ordered some Speer 46g flat points and also some of Midsouth's Varmint Nightmare 55g softpoints. Anybody out there who shoots and loads this caliber?

March 28, 2011, 03:46 PM	#2
Hookem2530 Junior Member Join Date: March 28, 2011 Posts: 1	.219 Zipper Load Data There was a really good article in Handloader Mag. You can access it here: http://www.riflemagazine.com/magazin...265partial.pdf This is also a good article with load data. http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/zipper.htm These two have a bunch of loads, but they are by subscription. http://ammoguide.com/cgi-bin/ai.cgi?...svgI&catid=204 http://www.loaddata.com/members/listing.cfm?type=1 I will send you a spreadsheet with load data I have acquired. Jason

April 1, 2011, 12:47 PM	#3
45ACPete Member Join Date: January 27, 2010 Posts: 35	Reply to Jason Thanks, Jason--I had about given up on getting an answer. I'm very glad to finally have some loading data. I'll tell you what I've tried in the meantime. By comparing case capacities and recommended loads for the .223 and .225 Winchester and also looking over my powders on hand I concluded that 24g of H335 behind a Speer 52g HP ought to be a reasonable load. I used new brass that I formed from 25-35 Win--I have the RCBS forming dies which I bought from an old gentleman who used to sell .219 brass but had given it up. Anyway, I shot ten rounds of my loads--the first three at 25 yds to get zeroed ( I had just mounted a 10X Burris on my Marlin 336). I got the elevation about right but ran out of right windage--I was at the limit and still about an inch left. Went ahead and moved the target to 50 yds--first two shots left (as expected) and maybe an inch apart. The next five shots keyholed a foot or so above the aiming point! What gives? I dunno--in looking over the load data you referenced H335 was mentioned once so it can't be a completely unreasonable choice. I'll get some H-4895--it seems like a consensus choice. Any ideas as to the wild inaccuracy I experienced? Pete--e-mail [email protected]

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