Lube Choice

fshfindr · March 3, 2014, 10:45 AM

What is your favorite (best) cast boolet lube?
1. 45,45,10
2. JPW by itself
3. Alox by itself
4. Alox plus mineral spirits
5. *Other

*Please explain Other in your reply;
*I should have explained that 45,45,10, is 45%Alox, 45%JPW and 10% min. spirits.
*JPW is Johnsons Paste Wax

I apologize for a poorly constructed pole.

fshfindr · March 3, 2014, 07:11 PM

I have used each method. The only one I have not tested yet is plain JPW. I have about 50 LSWC 38's that I have coated with just JPW. The other methods all prevented leading. I have high hopes for plain JPW since it is cheap and simple. Right now my range is a mud pit covered with about 12 inches of snow. I'm waiting to see which you prefer. I cast the first vote for JPW.

AllenJ · March 3, 2014, 08:17 PM

I've never used anything other than RCBS Case Lube. It has done a wonderful job so I figure why change.

Quote:

Allen: These are bullet lubes for cast bullets.

That's what I get for waking up so early on a Sunday morning

noylj · March 3, 2014, 08:51 PM

Allen: These are bullet lubes for cast bullets.

All I have used for decades as been LLA. 45/45/10 sounds like an improvement and if/when I again cast a bunch of bullets I may try it.
I take about 500 bullets, lay them on sides in glass casserole dish, squirt a little "Z" on them, and shuffle them like dominoes and roll them. After 30-60 seconds I inspect for any bullets that are not shiny/wet looking and add a little more lube if I see any. In general, 500 bullets lubed in about 2 minutes.

243winxb · March 3, 2014, 09:00 PM

NRA type. 50/50 bees wax & alox, store bought. Most dont need a heater. Lyman 450 lube/sizer.

FrankenMauser · March 3, 2014, 11:03 PM

BAC
Carnuba Red
Cheese Wax (seriously - with some added Bees Wax, it's essentially BAC without the X-Lox)

For low pressure loads, SPG lube is effective and easy to work with.

bedbugbilly · March 4, 2014, 05:18 PM

Had to list "other" as you didn't list my favorite. I use Alox/Paste Wax - that's it. Heat up the lead boolits, swirl 'em in it and I'm good to go. Don't have any problems with any of 'em. It's worked from the "get go" so no reason to change.

Axelwik · March 4, 2014, 11:38 PM

50-50 alox/beeswax

chris in va · March 5, 2014, 12:42 AM

JPW, ALOX and mineral spirits.

Fatelvis · March 5, 2014, 05:58 AM

Speedgreen by Bullshop

luis7 · March 5, 2014, 08:50 AM

NRA type 40% alox and 60% bee wax, is perfect to flow in summer and a heat a bit in winter in my lyman 450 and LAM II. Cero leading in all calibers.

243winxb · March 5, 2014, 02:52 PM

http://www.midwayusa.com/general.mvc...melting-points

From Midwayusa. White Label Lube Temperatures - http://www.lsstuff.com/frequently-asked-questions

Quote:

Melt Temperatures-

Lube working temp melt temp

50/50 room temp 162F

BAC room temp 162F

2500 room temp 162F

Carnauba Red 100F 162F

Commercial 160 105-130F 165F

Commercial 190 130-155F 190F

newmexicocrawler · March 9, 2014, 11:40 AM

Lsstuff 45/45/10.....cheap from him and works great

Jerry45 · March 9, 2014, 01:48 PM

For rifle I use Dillon spray lube. For pistol brass I use carbide dies and don't bother lubing. I do tumble and polish the brass before sizing / de-priming.

Idaho Spud · March 9, 2014, 03:52 PM

White Label 2500 Plus. Use it for everything incl. cast rifle boolits. Doesn't need a heater (I have one), except on the coldest day, but stays in the grooves on the hottest. And it doesn't harden and fall out when it freezes.

Mike / Tx · March 10, 2014, 04:44 AM

About 50-50 45/45/10 and Carnuba Red.

I just ordered a couple of other sticks to try out, some of the 2500 and BAC. I also threw in for a jug of their 45/45/10 as well. Figured might as well get it while I was there.

For the most part I have used the 45/45/10 for loads up to 1600fps and a few just a tough higher in my 454 with complete satisfaction and little to no leading. I will be starting to play with a couple of rifle calibers soon and on those I think the others might do a better job. Not sure but just from what I have studied up on. We'll see in a month or so.

johnjohn · March 12, 2014, 05:06 PM

BAC

David Bachelder · March 12, 2014, 07:49 PM

I'm experimenting with Powder Coating.

stevelyn · March 13, 2014, 06:16 AM

Lyman Super Moly or Orange Magic.

Daffy · March 13, 2014, 06:43 AM

TAC 1 from Randyrat.

mikld · March 13, 2014, 01:55 PM

Most of the choices are for a tumble lube. I use a few different lubes from White Label Lube as they are all good and prices are great. But I have tumble lube favorites, depending on bullet and intended use. For my Ranch Dog .44 cal. 240 and 265 gr. bullets I like to dip lube in 45-45-10. For some of my .38 wadcutters, alox thinned w/mineral spirits is good. The only time I used JPW straight is when I relubed a bunch of .22 lr bullets I had resized...

Beagle333 · March 13, 2014, 05:21 PM

Favorites:

Tac#1
BAC
Carnauba Red
Thompson Bear cold lube

and I have 9 sticks of Magma green on the way that I want to test out.

CS86 · March 13, 2014, 11:41 PM

Not sure if you are primarily looking for tumble lubes or traditional lubes, but...

I use 45/45/10 mostly for sizing bullets. I haven't had much luck with any tumble lube yet, but still trying it between 45/45/10 and xlox.

The only others that I have tried with luck have been:
Tac 1
Carnuaba Red

Felix & ben's red are popular, but I think they are more for rifles. I could be wrong.

iraiam · March 14, 2014, 12:02 AM

NRA 50/50 in a RCBS luber/sizer I acquired a rather large supply of the lube at an estate sale, so that's what I use, works good too.

salvadore · March 14, 2014, 12:22 PM

I use boocoo Darr formula lube. I made up bunches of lube that included beeswax, lanolin, paraffin and castor oil. Used it for two or three years and it worked quite well. Finally ran out and couldn't find the percentages or even the same ingredients. Any help?

View Poll Results: What is your favorite lube?
1. 45,45,10	4	7.14%
2. JPW by itself	1	1.79%
3. Alox by itself	8	14.29%
4. Alox plus mineral spirits	2	3.57%
5. Other	41	73.21%
Voters: 56. You may not vote on this poll

March 3, 2014, 07:11 PM	#2
fshfindr Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 188	I have used each method. The only one I have not tested yet is plain JPW. I have about 50 LSWC 38's that I have coated with just JPW. The other methods all prevented leading. I have high hopes for plain JPW since it is cheap and simple. Right now my range is a mud pit covered with about 12 inches of snow. I'm waiting to see which you prefer. I cast the first vote for JPW. __________________ Richard L.

March 3, 2014, 11:03 PM	#6
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2008 Location: In the valley above the plain Posts: 13,424	BAC Carnuba Red Cheese Wax (seriously - with some added Bees Wax, it's essentially BAC without the X-Lox) For low pressure loads, SPG lube is effective and easy to work with. __________________ Don't even try it. It's even worse than the internet would lead you to believe.

March 4, 2014, 05:18 PM	#7
bedbugbilly Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2009 Posts: 3,287	Had to list "other" as you didn't list my favorite. I use Alox/Paste Wax - that's it. Heat up the lead boolits, swirl 'em in it and I'm good to go. Don't have any problems with any of 'em. It's worked from the "get go" so no reason to change. __________________ If a pair of '51 Navies were good enough for Billy Hickok, then a single Navy on my right hip is good enough for me . . . besides . . . I'm probably only half as good as he was anyways. Hiram's Rangers Badge #63

March 5, 2014, 05:58 AM	#10
Fatelvis Senior Member Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Lockport, IL Posts: 490	Speedgreen by Bullshop __________________ Gun control isn't about guns....It's about CONTROL

March 3, 2014, 10:45 AM	#1
fshfindr Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2013 Location: South Jersey Posts: 188	Cast Boolet Lube Choice What is your favorite (best) cast boolet lube? 1. 45,45,10 2. JPW by itself 3. Alox by itself 4. Alox plus mineral spirits 5. Other Please explain Other in your reply; I should have explained that 45,45,10, is 45%Alox, 45%JPW and 10% min. spirits. JPW is Johnsons Paste Wax I apologize for a poorly constructed pole. __________________ Richard L. Last edited by fshfindr; March 5, 2014 at 07:02 PM.

March 3, 2014, 08:51 PM	#4
noylj Senior Member Join Date: October 21, 2007 Location: Between CA and NM Posts: 858	Allen: These are bullet lubes for cast bullets. All I have used for decades as been LLA. 45/45/10 sounds like an improvement and if/when I again cast a bunch of bullets I may try it. I take about 500 bullets, lay them on sides in glass casserole dish, squirt a little "Z" on them, and shuffle them like dominoes and roll them. After 30-60 seconds I inspect for any bullets that are not shiny/wet looking and add a little more lube if I see any. In general, 500 bullets lubed in about 2 minutes.

March 3, 2014, 09:00 PM	#5
243winxb Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2011 Location: USA Posts: 1,730	NRA type. 50/50 bees wax & alox, store bought. Most dont need a heater. Lyman 450 lube/sizer.

March 4, 2014, 11:38 PM	#8
Axelwik Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2012 Location: Land of Enchantment Posts: 436	50-50 alox/beeswax

March 5, 2014, 12:42 AM	#9
chris in va Senior Member Join Date: December 26, 2004 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 13,806	JPW, ALOX and mineral spirits.

March 5, 2014, 08:50 AM	#11
luis7 Member Join Date: September 26, 2008 Location: ESPAÑA Posts: 39	NRA type 40% alox and 60% bee wax, is perfect to flow in summer and a heat a bit in winter in my lyman 450 and LAM II. Cero leading in all calibers.

March 9, 2014, 11:40 AM	#13
newmexicocrawler Member Join Date: April 4, 2013 Posts: 25	Lsstuff 45/45/10.....cheap from him and works great

March 9, 2014, 01:48 PM	#14
Jerry45 Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2000 Location: Metairie, Louisiana Posts: 890	For rifle I use Dillon spray lube. For pistol brass I use carbide dies and don't bother lubing. I do tumble and polish the brass before sizing / de-priming. __________________ Guns are not dangerous! People are! RKBA!

March 9, 2014, 03:52 PM	#15
Idaho Spud Senior Member Join Date: April 7, 2010 Posts: 330	White Label 2500 Plus. Use it for everything incl. cast rifle boolits. Doesn't need a heater (I have one), except on the coldest day, but stays in the grooves on the hottest. And it doesn't harden and fall out when it freezes. __________________ "I should have picked alcohol, drugs, or beating my wife..." Pete Rose

March 10, 2014, 04:44 AM	#16
Mike / Tx Senior Member Join Date: April 8, 2000 Posts: 2,101	About 50-50 45/45/10 and Carnuba Red. I just ordered a couple of other sticks to try out, some of the 2500 and BAC. I also threw in for a jug of their 45/45/10 as well. Figured might as well get it while I was there. For the most part I have used the 45/45/10 for loads up to 1600fps and a few just a tough higher in my 454 with complete satisfaction and little to no leading. I will be starting to play with a couple of rifle calibers soon and on those I think the others might do a better job. Not sure but just from what I have studied up on. We'll see in a month or so. __________________ LAter, Mike / TX

March 12, 2014, 05:06 PM	#17
johnjohn Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2009 Location: Baton Rouge La. Posts: 122	BAC

March 12, 2014, 07:49 PM	#18
David Bachelder Senior Member Join Date: August 23, 2011 Location: Trinity, Texas Posts: 636	I'm experimenting with Powder Coating. __________________ David Bachelder Trinity, Texas I load, 9mm Luger, 38 and 40 S&W, 38 Special, 357Magnum, 45ACP, 45 Colt, 223, 300 AAC, 243 and 30-06

March 13, 2014, 06:16 AM	#19
stevelyn Senior Member Join Date: May 19, 2004 Location: Fairbanksan in exile to Aleutian Hell Posts: 2,655	Lyman Super Moly or Orange Magic. __________________ Stop Allowing Our Schools To Be Soft Targets! http://fastersaveslives.org/ East Moose. Wear Wolf.

March 13, 2014, 06:43 AM	#20
Daffy Member Join Date: December 24, 2012 Posts: 63	TAC 1 from Randyrat.

March 13, 2014, 01:55 PM	#21
mikld Senior Member Join Date: February 7, 2009 Location: Southern Oregon! Posts: 2,891	Most of the choices are for a tumble lube. I use a few different lubes from White Label Lube as they are all good and prices are great. But I have tumble lube favorites, depending on bullet and intended use. For my Ranch Dog .44 cal. 240 and 265 gr. bullets I like to dip lube in 45-45-10. For some of my .38 wadcutters, alox thinned w/mineral spirits is good. The only time I used JPW straight is when I relubed a bunch of .22 lr bullets I had resized... __________________ My Anchor is holding fast! I've learned how to stand on my own two knees...

March 13, 2014, 05:21 PM	#22
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Auburn, AL. Posts: 2,332	Favorites: Tac#1 BAC Carnauba Red Thompson Bear cold lube and I have 9 sticks of Magma green on the way that I want to test out. __________________ . . . Have a Colt and a smile.

March 13, 2014, 11:41 PM	#23
CS86 Senior Member Join Date: February 28, 2012 Location: South Dakota Posts: 224	Not sure if you are primarily looking for tumble lubes or traditional lubes, but... I use 45/45/10 mostly for sizing bullets. I haven't had much luck with any tumble lube yet, but still trying it between 45/45/10 and xlox. The only others that I have tried with luck have been: Tac 1 Carnuaba Red Felix & ben's red are popular, but I think they are more for rifles. I could be wrong.

March 14, 2014, 12:02 AM	#24
iraiam Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2012 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 1,057	NRA 50/50 in a RCBS luber/sizer I acquired a rather large supply of the lube at an estate sale, so that's what I use, works good too. __________________ NRA Lifetime Member Since 1999 "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials." George Mason

March 14, 2014, 12:22 PM	#25
salvadore Junior member Join Date: January 1, 2007 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,282	I use boocoo Darr formula lube. I made up bunches of lube that included beeswax, lanolin, paraffin and castor oil. Used it for two or three years and it worked quite well. Finally ran out and couldn't find the percentages or even the same ingredients. Any help?