Lakeside .22 mini machine guns

gunjunkie · January 1, 2005, 04:26 PM

Does anybody own one of these guns? They seem relatively inexpensive and look just like the real thing. Is the belt feed reliable in a caliber that small?

www.lakesideguns.com

thanks

Lawnmower · January 1, 2005, 10:08 PM

Another shooter at my local range has a transferable Tipman 1919 belt-fed .22 lr. replica. The gun worked like a charm with belt dums. I'm think that lakeside guns is the same company.

Kenneth Lew

Hkmp5sd · January 1, 2005, 10:22 PM

You did notice that the guns listed are NOT machineguns, correct? $3,000 for a semi-automatic 22 is a bit much.

gifted · January 2, 2005, 03:17 AM

So far as I can tell, Lakeside picked up production after Tippman went paintball. Cursed ban. I want one!

dfaugh · January 2, 2005, 12:10 PM

Still do...But for $3000 you can buy TWO semiauto converted 1919A4s, or build FOUR from parts kits....course ammo is a bit pricier, but I'd just as soon have the "real thing" (well, as close as I can get legally).

Bullpupper · January 2, 2005, 01:30 PM

I was just thinking about the ammo issue also. One of the toys I have wanted for some time is a semi M2. A thousand rounds of .50 BMG is at least $1K, where as a thousand rounds of .22 LR is about $20. Still, for the price, I think I would want the real thing. Now, if these firearms were about $1K, then I would consider them.

pinkfloydman · January 2, 2005, 07:17 PM

hmm those do look very cool but id rather just buy a gatling gun kit for 2 10/22 and mak eit moterized...not the same but much cheaper

PMDW · January 2, 2005, 10:31 PM

And a felony, unless you have an FFL/SOT.

Cowled_Wolfe · January 3, 2005, 04:13 AM

Awhile back, I contacted the manufacturer of a gatling kit about making one powered by a bicycle... His response? If I want to do that, I'd better find another supplier because he won't help.

I'm guessing a bike-powered gatling is illegal, and a motorized one? Let's just say I like being outside those bars... Y'know?

pinkfloydman · January 3, 2005, 07:09 AM

yeah yeah well i relized its would be pointless because you styill have to use normal 30 round magazines...but do i need a license jsut for the gatling gun kit???

shaggy · January 3, 2005, 12:33 PM

A bicycle operated mechanism would most likely be legal. Hand cranked gatling guns and hand cranks to actuate the trigger quickly are legal as semi-autos (they only produce one shot per pull of the trigger). A motorized version is illegal as BATF views the switch turning on the motor as the trigger, NOT the trigger of the firearm which is actuated by the motorized crank. That's a very important distinction. Thus, once you turn that motor on, you have pulled or actuated the legal "trigger" so every shot released thereafter is considered as part of that initial trigger pull - thus a machinegun.

Cowled_Wolfe · January 3, 2005, 02:34 PM

Go figure, Shaggy... I'm giving it 80% odds right now that he just wanted to cover his a** in case bad things happened... Not that that's a bad thing.

WolfDog · January 6, 2005, 05:08 AM

Anyone actually bother to view the videos on the site?

Those 1919a4's certainly look to be full auto to me. The guy runs a full belt through them using controlled bursts to feed the belt in and it sure fires on full auto.

Not all of these guns are semiauto folks.

Case and point, here is one of the videos

http://home.centurytel.net/lksd/tipp...llautodemo.wmv

Hkmp5sd · January 6, 2005, 08:40 AM

The ones for sale to the general public are all semi-autos. The machineguns are either Dealer Samples or not for sale. A transferrable Browning machinegun sells for $20,000 and up.

January 1, 2005, 04:26 PM	#1
gunjunkie Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2005 Posts: 2	Lakeside .22 mini machine guns Does anybody own one of these guns? They seem relatively inexpensive and look just like the real thing. Is the belt feed reliable in a caliber that small? www.lakesideguns.com thanks

January 2, 2005, 12:10 PM	#5
dfaugh Senior Member Join Date: January 17, 2002 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 1,715	Thought these were cool myself Still do...But for $3000 you can buy TWO semiauto converted 1919A4s, or build FOUR from parts kits....course ammo is a bit pricier, but I'd just as soon have the "real thing" (well, as close as I can get legally). __________________ "If you Listen to Fools, the Mob Rules" "No one has the answer, but one thing is true. You'e got to turn on evil, when its coming after you. You've gotta face it down,and when it tries to hide, you've got to go in after it, and never be denied. Time is running out...Let's roll. Let's roll for freedom, let's roll for love. We're going after satan, on the wings of a dove. Let's roll for freedom, let's roll for truth. Let's not let our children grow up fearful in their youth."

January 3, 2005, 04:13 AM	#9
Cowled_Wolfe Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Washington... Land of the apple, and the apple maggot! Posts: 803	Awhile back, I contacted the manufacturer of a gatling kit about making one powered by a bicycle... His response? If I want to do that, I'd better find another supplier because he won't help. I'm guessing a bike-powered gatling is illegal, and a motorized one? Let's just say I like being outside those bars... Y'know? __________________ [Your ad could be here! Call 555-0122 for details.] (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into (")_(")your signature to help him gain world domination.

January 3, 2005, 12:33 PM	#11
shaggy Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2004 Posts: 1,519	A bicycle operated mechanism would most likely be legal. Hand cranked gatling guns and hand cranks to actuate the trigger quickly are legal as semi-autos (they only produce one shot per pull of the trigger). A motorized version is illegal as BATF views the switch turning on the motor as the trigger, NOT the trigger of the firearm which is actuated by the motorized crank. That's a very important distinction. Thus, once you turn that motor on, you have pulled or actuated the legal "trigger" so every shot released thereafter is considered as part of that initial trigger pull - thus a machinegun. Last edited by shaggy; January 3, 2005 at 02:57 PM.

January 3, 2005, 02:34 PM	#12
Cowled_Wolfe Senior Member Join Date: November 26, 2004 Location: Washington... Land of the apple, and the apple maggot! Posts: 803	Go figure, Shaggy... I'm giving it 80% odds right now that he just wanted to cover his a** in case bad things happened... Not that that's a bad thing. __________________ [Your ad could be here! Call 555-0122 for details.] (\__/) (='.'=)This is Bunny. Copy and paste bunny into (")_(")your signature to help him gain world domination.

January 1, 2005, 10:08 PM	#2
Lawnmower Member Join Date: August 13, 2002 Posts: 33	Another shooter at my local range has a transferable Tipman 1919 belt-fed .22 lr. replica. The gun worked like a charm with belt dums. I'm think that lakeside guns is the same company. Kenneth Lew

January 1, 2005, 10:22 PM	#3
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,303	You did notice that the guns listed are NOT machineguns, correct? $3,000 for a semi-automatic 22 is a bit much.

January 2, 2005, 03:17 AM	#4
gifted Senior Member Join Date: June 5, 2004 Location: New Mexico Posts: 409	So far as I can tell, Lakeside picked up production after Tippman went paintball. Cursed ban. I want one!

January 2, 2005, 01:30 PM	#6
Bullpupper Junior Member Join Date: January 1, 2005 Posts: 6	I was just thinking about the ammo issue also. One of the toys I have wanted for some time is a semi M2. A thousand rounds of .50 BMG is at least $1K, where as a thousand rounds of .22 LR is about $20. Still, for the price, I think I would want the real thing. Now, if these firearms were about $1K, then I would consider them.

January 2, 2005, 07:17 PM	#7
pinkfloydman Member Join Date: October 1, 2004 Posts: 73	hmm those do look very cool but id rather just buy a gatling gun kit for 2 10/22 and mak eit moterized...not the same but much cheaper

January 2, 2005, 10:31 PM	#8
PMDW Member Join Date: September 14, 2004 Posts: 39	And a felony, unless you have an FFL/SOT.

January 3, 2005, 07:09 AM	#10
pinkfloydman Member Join Date: October 1, 2004 Posts: 73	yeah yeah well i relized its would be pointless because you styill have to use normal 30 round magazines...but do i need a license jsut for the gatling gun kit???

January 6, 2005, 05:08 AM	#13
WolfDog Member Join Date: October 22, 2004 Posts: 17	Anyone actually bother to view the videos on the site? Those 1919a4's certainly look to be full auto to me. The guy runs a full belt through them using controlled bursts to feed the belt in and it sure fires on full auto. Not all of these guns are semiauto folks. Case and point, here is one of the videos http://home.centurytel.net/lksd/tipp...llautodemo.wmv

January 6, 2005, 08:40 AM	#14
Hkmp5sd Senior Member Join Date: December 15, 2001 Location: Winter Haven, Florida Posts: 4,303	The ones for sale to the general public are all semi-autos. The machineguns are either Dealer Samples or not for sale. A transferrable Browning machinegun sells for $20,000 and up.

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