Steyr M95M

Flipper 56 · May 3, 2010, 09:11 PM

Just bought this "straight pull" Steyr which is converted to 8mm. Mauser.
Thought it was a Cool....unusual gun....that's about my main attraction to it.
What are Steyr 95 usually? I'm a little baffled by these 7.92 x 56, 7.92 x 56J,
7.92 x 56jrs cartridges I've read about. How many different cartridges has this rifle been made in? any clue would be appreciated.

jsmaye · May 4, 2010, 07:36 AM

Originally they chambered a 8x56 rimmed cartridge.

GunsAreGood · May 4, 2010, 10:41 PM

I believe they where actually chambered in 8X50r and then where cut down and chambered in 8X56r and 7.92X57mm. I could be wrong but that is the best of my knowledge. Do some research and you should be able to find out for sure.

Flipper 56 · May 5, 2010, 05:33 AM

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Do some research and you should be able to find out for sure.

I started reading about them and a propensity towards "breaking extractors"
I was trying to determine the cause and if anyone had first hand experience.

Esteban32696 · May 5, 2010, 06:57 AM

I have had several of those in the 8x56r. I've had the long guns & carbines & loved the smooth action. Never had a problem with them, & ammo was [ USED to be ] cheap & plentiful. There are many hunters out West that use these rifles.

mapsjanhere · May 5, 2010, 07:39 AM

One correction, there's no J calibers, they are I. The J crept into the English language literature due to the very similar shape of capital J and I in the old German font, but the original letter is I for Infantry cartridge.

Esteban32696 · May 6, 2010, 05:20 AM

Do a search & you can find out a lot about these & find some ammo. Check here.

http://8x56r.com/cms/

http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearm...fle-Forum.html

When shooting , HOLD onto it !!" The M-95 Carbine is rough on your sholder.

James K · May 6, 2010, 09:57 PM

Just FWIW, the I and J in old German were not similar, they were the same; my old college German books show only one letter between "H" and "K", and it was pronounced either as an "I" ("in") or as a "Y" ("Iunkers" - modern German "Junkers"). There is no "J" (as in "John") sound in German, so it is one of the vagaries of languages that a German has a hard time pronouncing the English word "German."

The splitting up of the "I" into "I" and "J" was at the order of a fellow named Hitler, so I suppose he did do one good thing.

Jim

Hardcase · May 7, 2010, 09:26 AM

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The splitting up of the "I" into "I" and "J" was at the order of a fellow named Hitler, so I suppose he did do one good thing.

And thus sealed the fate of generations of engineers battling mathematicians over whether the square root of -1 is "j" or "i"

(All right-thinking people know that it's "j".)

Flipper 56 · May 17, 2010, 07:25 PM

THANKS TO ONE AND ALL FOR THE INFO

James K · May 17, 2010, 07:56 PM

Just to correct two errors in my previous post. Both "I" and "J" existed in the old German; the similarity of the capital letters in the normal Fraktur font confused me. And Hitler did not split up the "I" and "J", he banned the use of Fraktur.

Changes in modern German are still being proposed, the latest being whether to stop using the "double s" character ("ß") and just use "ss" instead. The character, used at the end of words, resembles a capital "B" and sometimes leads people copying German text to write a word like "daß" (dass) as "dab".

Jim

Flipper 56 · May 19, 2010, 07:06 PM

Took 4 years of German is High School. That 27 letter alphabet can be a pain but "Arbeit macht das Leben SuSS" The 2 S should be an "essett".

May 3, 2010, 09:11 PM	#1
Flipper 56 Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 165	Steyr M95M Just bought this "straight pull" Steyr which is converted to 8mm. Mauser. Thought it was a Cool....unusual gun....that's about my main attraction to it. What are Steyr 95 usually? I'm a little baffled by these 7.92 x 56, 7.92 x 56J, 7.92 x 56jrs cartridges I've read about. How many different cartridges has this rifle been made in? any clue would be appreciated. __________________ To Err is human, To Forgive divine, But to forget is foolish.

May 4, 2010, 07:36 AM	#2
jsmaye Senior Member Join Date: July 18, 2008 Location: Amarillo, Tx Posts: 616	Originally they chambered a 8x56 rimmed cartridge. __________________ No matter how big and tough you are, when a two-year-old hands you a toy phone you'll answer it.

May 4, 2010, 10:41 PM	#3
GunsAreGood Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2010 Posts: 300	I believe they where actually chambered in 8X50r and then where cut down and chambered in 8X56r and 7.92X57mm. I could be wrong but that is the best of my knowledge. Do some research and you should be able to find out for sure. __________________ From my cold dead hands If guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns

May 5, 2010, 07:39 AM	#6
mapsjanhere Senior Member Join Date: August 6, 2009 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 2,832	One correction, there's no J calibers, they are I. The J crept into the English language literature due to the very similar shape of capital J and I in the old German font, but the original letter is I for Infantry cartridge. __________________ I used to love being able to hit hard at 1000 yards. As I get older I find hitting a mini ram at 200 yards with the 22 oddly more satisfying.

May 17, 2010, 07:25 PM	#10
Flipper 56 Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 165	THANKS TO ONE AND ALL FOR THE INFO __________________ To Err is human, To Forgive divine, But to forget is foolish.

May 5, 2010, 06:57 AM	#5
Esteban32696 Member Join Date: February 10, 2010 Location: Fl. Posts: 80	I have had several of those in the 8x56r. I've had the long guns & carbines & loved the smooth action. Never had a problem with them, & ammo was [ USED to be ] cheap & plentiful. There are many hunters out West that use these rifles.

May 6, 2010, 05:20 AM	#7
Esteban32696 Member Join Date: February 10, 2010 Location: Fl. Posts: 80	Do a search & you can find out a lot about these & find some ammo. Check here. http://8x56r.com/cms/ http://parallaxscurioandrelicfirearm...fle-Forum.html When shooting , HOLD onto it !!" The M-95 Carbine is rough on your sholder.

May 6, 2010, 09:57 PM	#8
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Just FWIW, the I and J in old German were not similar, they were the same; my old college German books show only one letter between "H" and "K", and it was pronounced either as an "I" ("in") or as a "Y" ("Iunkers" - modern German "Junkers"). There is no "J" (as in "John") sound in German, so it is one of the vagaries of languages that a German has a hard time pronouncing the English word "German." The splitting up of the "I" into "I" and "J" was at the order of a fellow named Hitler, so I suppose he did do one good thing. Jim

May 17, 2010, 07:56 PM	#11
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Just to correct two errors in my previous post. Both "I" and "J" existed in the old German; the similarity of the capital letters in the normal Fraktur font confused me. And Hitler did not split up the "I" and "J", he banned the use of Fraktur. Changes in modern German are still being proposed, the latest being whether to stop using the "double s" character ("ß") and just use "ss" instead. The character, used at the end of words, resembles a capital "B" and sometimes leads people copying German text to write a word like "daß" (dass) as "dab". Jim Last edited by James K; May 17, 2010 at 08:06 PM.

May 19, 2010, 07:06 PM	#12
Flipper 56 Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2008 Posts: 165	Took 4 years of German is High School. That 27 letter alphabet can be a pain but "Arbeit macht das Leben SuSS" The 2 S should be an "essett". __________________ To Err is human, To Forgive divine, But to forget is foolish.