New Moderator for L&CR

Al Norris · October 20, 2008, 12:47 AM

You know, Dave and I have been remiss in making this announcement. Don't quite know how this got overlooked. But, overlooked it has been.

With my apologies to Gary, I would like everyone to welcome 44 AMP as a co-moderator to the L&CR forum. I'm sure many of you recognize him from his posts, just about everywhere on TFL.

Thank you, Gary, for stepping up and helping to make TFL the best board on the net.

blume357 · October 20, 2008, 06:50 AM

Let's hope we can keep the fires low and not need the moderators.... but it is politics.

**44 AMP** · October 22, 2008, 12:51 AM

And I would like to point out that the whole idea behind this new forum is to be someplace where we can discuss L&CR issues without politics, or with as little as possible. We understand that some "political" things might, from time to time be necessary to give full historical background for certain issues, but expect this to be kept to as minimum.

My personal take on this is that while Law (legal) issues and Civil Rights issues have a political import, they are not politics directly. To me, politics is about the people in politics, their views, their proposals, party platforms, etc., and the interactions they engage in. In other words, what they are doing today, and proposing to do in the future, and especially the why.

Many of us have strong opinions about these things, and it is difficult to discuss them calmly and rationally, without invective, snide comments, veiled insults, or sarcasm, but nevertheless, that is what we are going to do here. The bar has been set, and set high. Those of you who have been invited to be the trial group, and those who have asked to be included have a high standard to meet, but you are here because you wanted to be, and I feel that we can meet the high standard and have interesting and enriching discussions while doing so.

We have all agreed to play nice here, and if we can do it, providing the example and the proof that it can be done, L&CR will eventually be expanded and open to the general membership. That is the vision. Let's all work together, and politely agreeing to disagree when necessary, to make it work. Thanks.
Gary (44AMP) Eastman

Ricky B · October 22, 2008, 12:56 AM

I suggest as the motto for this forum, "Disagree without being disagreeable."

Welcome, and thank you in advance for your efforts.

October 20, 2008, 12:47 AM	#1
Al Norris Moderator Emeritus Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 9,660	New Moderator for L&CR You know, Dave and I have been remiss in making this announcement. Don't quite know how this got overlooked. But, overlooked it has been. With my apologies to Gary, I would like everyone to welcome 44 AMP as a co-moderator to the L&CR forum. I'm sure many of you recognize him from his posts, just about everywhere on TFL. Thank you, Gary, for stepping up and helping to make TFL the best board on the net.

October 20, 2008, 06:50 AM	#2
blume357 Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2005 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 3,943	Welcome... Let's hope we can keep the fires low and not need the moderators.... but it is politics.

October 22, 2008, 12:51 AM	#3
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,791	Thanks for the welcome And I would like to point out that the whole idea behind this new forum is to be someplace where we can discuss L&CR issues without politics, or with as little as possible. We understand that some "political" things might, from time to time be necessary to give full historical background for certain issues, but expect this to be kept to as minimum. My personal take on this is that while Law (legal) issues and Civil Rights issues have a political import, they are not politics directly. To me, politics is about the people in politics, their views, their proposals, party platforms, etc., and the interactions they engage in. In other words, what they are doing today, and proposing to do in the future, and especially the why. Many of us have strong opinions about these things, and it is difficult to discuss them calmly and rationally, without invective, snide comments, veiled insults, or sarcasm, but nevertheless, that is what we are going to do here. The bar has been set, and set high. Those of you who have been invited to be the trial group, and those who have asked to be included have a high standard to meet, but you are here because you wanted to be, and I feel that we can meet the high standard and have interesting and enriching discussions while doing so. We have all agreed to play nice here, and if we can do it, providing the example and the proof that it can be done, L&CR will eventually be expanded and open to the general membership. That is the vision. Let's all work together, and politely agreeing to disagree when necessary, to make it work. Thanks. Gary (44AMP) Eastman __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

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October 22, 2008, 12:56 AM	#4
Ricky B Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2002 Posts: 251	I suggest as the motto for this forum, "Disagree without being disagreeable." Welcome, and thank you in advance for your efforts.