.30-30 loads for a 1914 vintage Model 94

tooltime · February 13, 2001, 03:58 PM

Does anyone have a good jacketed bullet load for an old Winchester Model 94 in .30 WCF? I reload a lot of rifle and pistol cartridges but, I have not yet developed a load for this rifle. What are your suggestions? Tooltime

Paul B. · February 14, 2001, 04:06 PM

Tooltime. I load for a Model 94 carbine made in 1911. Frankly, in deference to it's age, I try to keep all loads for it in the same range as current factory ammo or less. And even then, I use those sparingly. Most of my loading for 30-30's is with cast lead, using jacketed bullet data for the top loads.
My suggestions for you would be to load your ammo to the 1914 specs. Current 170 gr. loads are said to reach 2200 FPS. In 1914, 170 gr. bullets were said to do 2000 FPS, and the original 30 WCF ammo in 1895 was said to do 1960/70 FPS.
My Mod. 94 has express sights, and when I load to 1960 to 2000 FPS, it shoots right to point of aim according to the sight settings.
Any deer you shoot at won't know the difference.
Paul B.

Tom Matiska · February 15, 2001, 09:11 AM

When I want to go easy on a vintage gun I go with data from Winchester's Ball Powder Manual. They aim for 95% of SAAMI at 70F, never to exceed 110% at +140F, -40F, muzzle up, muzzle down...etc... if there is a reason for a limit they have a way of finding it.

The manual is complimentary. Being they are giving it away free, I'll take the liberty of doing the same.

170grs, 32.0grs 748, 2145fps, 36,000cup

170grs, 33.6grs 760, 1975fps, 30,000cup

150grs, 34.5grs 748, 2310fps, 36,000cup

150grs, 35.9grs 760, 2090fps, 30,000cup

2.550" max overall length, Win large rifle primers, start at 10% below(no lower) and work up.

Tom

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February 13, 2001, 03:58 PM	#1
tooltime Member Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: Huntsville, Al Posts: 17	Does anyone have a good jacketed bullet load for an old Winchester Model 94 in .30 WCF? I reload a lot of rifle and pistol cartridges but, I have not yet developed a load for this rifle. What are your suggestions? Tooltime

February 14, 2001, 04:06 PM	#2
Paul B. Senior Member Join Date: March 28, 1999 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,800	Tooltime. I load for a Model 94 carbine made in 1911. Frankly, in deference to it's age, I try to keep all loads for it in the same range as current factory ammo or less. And even then, I use those sparingly. Most of my loading for 30-30's is with cast lead, using jacketed bullet data for the top loads. My suggestions for you would be to load your ammo to the 1914 specs. Current 170 gr. loads are said to reach 2200 FPS. In 1914, 170 gr. bullets were said to do 2000 FPS, and the original 30 WCF ammo in 1895 was said to do 1960/70 FPS. My Mod. 94 has express sights, and when I load to 1960 to 2000 FPS, it shoots right to point of aim according to the sight settings. Any deer you shoot at won't know the difference. Paul B.

February 15, 2001, 09:11 AM	#3
Tom Matiska Senior Member Join Date: April 12, 2000 Location: Wilkes-Barre, Pa Posts: 1,029	When I want to go easy on a vintage gun I go with data from Winchester's Ball Powder Manual. They aim for 95% of SAAMI at 70F, never to exceed 110% at +140F, -40F, muzzle up, muzzle down...etc... if there is a reason for a limit they have a way of finding it. The manual is complimentary. Being they are giving it away free, I'll take the liberty of doing the same. 170grs, 32.0grs 748, 2145fps, 36,000cup 170grs, 33.6grs 760, 1975fps, 30,000cup 150grs, 34.5grs 748, 2310fps, 36,000cup 150grs, 35.9grs 760, 2090fps, 30,000cup 2.550" max overall length, Win large rifle primers, start at 10% below(no lower) and work up. Tom