The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting > Bullet Casting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old February 16, 2013, 07:27 PM   #1
deerslayer303
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 10, 2011
Location: Leesville SC
Posts: 2,652
I DO NOT, like the new style LEE Molds!

These new molds are retarded! Lee should have left well enough alone! First of all, I prepped the mold as per LEE's instructions. I even took it one step further and put graphite on the top of the mold to try to keep the sprue plate from galling the top of the mold blocks. Well after only about 300 round ball cast the top of the molds block are galled. I kept the sprue plate pivot and locating pins lubed with beeswax. The sprue plate CONTINUOUSLY loosened up! And in one of the round ball cavities there is a rough tool mark almost looks like where the sprue was cut, just a rough finished mold and the quality of this one SUCKS! Then the icing on the cake today was one of the locating pins fell out. The old style LEE molds worked PERFECT, I have some that are still going strong after TONS of castings, no galling etc. I'm going to order a LYMAN mold RIGHT NOW!!!

Thanks for listening to my rant. I feel better now I got that off my chest. I do realize that its a 20 dollar mold, but still when I get in the groove making boolits I don't like to have to stop after I got everything set up and running.
__________________
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson
deerslayer303 is offline  
Old February 16, 2013, 07:31 PM   #2
TXGunNut
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 16, 2010
Location: If you have to ask...
Posts: 2,860
Step up to the 6 cav moulds, I only bought the 2 cav mould to make a few "samples". Big difference in quality, even tho I found my 2 cav moulds quite acceptable.
I'd send it back, pretty sure they'll make it right. We all make mistakes sometimes.
__________________
Life Member NRA, TSRA
Smokeless powder is a passing fad! -Steve Garbe
I hate rude behavior in a man. I won't tolerate it. -Woodrow F. Call Lonesome Dove
My favorite recipes start out with a handful of used wheelweights.
TXGunNut is offline  
Old February 17, 2013, 07:50 AM   #3
steve4102
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 23, 2005
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,949
I have a New style .401 SWC mold and I love it. Much better than my old style.
Call Lee and send it back, let us know how they handled it.
steve4102 is offline  
Old February 18, 2013, 01:54 AM   #4
chris in va
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 26, 2004
Location: Louisville KY
Posts: 13,805
Interesting.

All Lee molds I've bought the past couple years have galled the aluminum, had loosened sprue plates and a couple dropped locating pins.

Sounds normal to me.
chris in va is offline  
Old February 18, 2013, 05:10 PM   #5
snuffy
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 20, 2001
Location: Oshkosh wi.
Posts: 3,055
First, throw away the lee instructions. Forget about smoking the molds, and forget about using boolit lube to lubricate the mold or sprue pivot.

Go to the automotive store nearest you, look for synthetic 2 cycle oil. Buy a-----well the smallest quantity you can find. Use that to lube your molds, ALL MOLDS, not just lee. The pivot for the sprue plate, the locating pins for the blocks, and once the mold is hot, the underside of the sprue plate. The synthetic 2 cycle oil is the same stuff that bullshop sells as bullplate sprueplate lube.

That would prevent the galling, and the sticking of the guide pins that caused them to fall out. The boolit lube they say to use BURNS! Then it results in a sticky mess when it's done burning. The 2 cycle lube is a high temp lube, it's supposed to lubricate even at high temp, and does NOT turn to ash.
__________________
The more people I meet, the more I love my dog

They're going to get their butts kicked over there this election. How come people can't spell and use words correctly?
snuffy is offline  
Old February 18, 2013, 06:01 PM   #6
m&p45acp10+1
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 3, 2009
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 3,930
I agree with the lubing with something other than bullet lube. I use Mobil 1. I have a case of it on hand for my truck. (92 Mazda with 345,000 Problem Free miles, though it is near time to do a break job.) I use a pipe cleaner, I preheat the mold on a gas stove. I dip the pipe cleaner, and then squeeze off the excess. I lube under the sprue plate, and I Lube the pins, and pivot point. It smoke for a couple of minutes, and is then good for the duration of my casting session.

Ok now back to casting. Need more .358 158 grain SWC for the weekend. It is casting weather. 75 and sunny with a wind chill of awsome.
__________________
No matter how many times you do it and nothing happens it only takes something going wrong one time to kill you.
m&p45acp10+1 is offline  
Old February 18, 2013, 11:29 PM   #7
chris in va
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 26, 2004
Location: Louisville KY
Posts: 13,805
Quote:
That would prevent the galling, and the sticking of the guide pins that caused them to fall out
Well, the pins fall out because they're not properly staked. I make it a routine to take a drift and punch a better stake on all new molds.
chris in va is offline  
Old February 20, 2013, 01:08 PM   #8
deerslayer303
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 10, 2011
Location: Leesville SC
Posts: 2,652
Thanks for all the replies Gentlemen! I will remember the 2cycle oil Idea for the new mold. I'm going to contact Lee today and see what they say. I have put the locating pin back in and cleaned it up. But I can't do anything about the machining mark (makes that side of the ball look like a cut sprue) in one side of the cavities.
__________________
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson
deerslayer303 is offline  
Old February 20, 2013, 03:58 PM   #9
Wallyl
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 8, 2011
Posts: 255
Lee Mold galling

I use a small candle on the sprew plate screw. After so many casts, with bullets in eth mold--touch it lightly to the top of the sprew plate screw..it gives enough to last quite awhile and it will not contaminate the cavities.

I will try some syn oil next time with mine. Syn oil doesn't breakdown under high temperatures... With the candle wax, it will evaporate without leaving a residue, so you have to replenish it, after so many casting cycles. No big deal IMHO.
Wallyl is offline  
Old February 21, 2013, 03:03 PM   #10
chris in va
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 26, 2004
Location: Louisville KY
Posts: 13,805
Oh trust me, syn motor oil definitely leaves a residue and smells terrible as it burns off. I'm considering that 2-cycle oil suggestion.
chris in va is offline  
Old February 22, 2013, 04:51 PM   #11
deerslayer303
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 10, 2011
Location: Leesville SC
Posts: 2,652
FIXED IT!

Well I got the Lee mold whipped in shape. I just wasn't bothering sending a 20 dollar mold back and going through the hassle. So, I got some coarse and fine lapping compound. Starting with course and following with fine, I took some 000 steel wool and tore me off a little piece. Then dabbed a little lapping compound in the cavities, then with a #2 pencil (new one) I used the eraser end to grip the steel wool and i went to spinning it between my palms, like you would if you were lapping a valve into a head. Did it to both halves of the mold and VIOLA polished and machine mark free cavities. I'm sure the other methods are faster but hey it took me NO set up time with this method. I then removed the sprue plate and added a little fine compound to the shoulder of the sprue plate set screw and with a properly fitting screw driver I went to town working the screw back and forth then doing complete turns. This polished the shoulder of the screw and the hole in the sprue plate. Now the sprue plate glides on the screw like BUTTAH!! Then with a little fine compound on a piece of steel wool, I polished the under side of the sprue plate and the top of the mold blocks. With everything back together and a lite coat of 2 cycle synthetic motor oil it works smooth as silk. Can't wait to see how it does in a future casting session.
__________________
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson

Last edited by deerslayer303; February 22, 2013 at 04:58 PM.
deerslayer303 is offline  
Old February 22, 2013, 06:31 PM   #12
Beagle333
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 7, 2012
Location: Auburn, AL.
Posts: 2,332
Now, hold on!!!!......

Quote:
FIXED IT!
Well I got the Lee mold whipped in shape.

Let's not rush to hasty conclusions just yet! Perhaps you'd better send me a box-or-so of them round balls when you first pour a few pounds and let me test 'em out, just to make sure.
I'd hate to see that you thought you fixed it, only to find out later that you were mistaken.
It's the least I can do for a fellow BP shooter/caster.
__________________
.
.
.
Have a Colt and a smile.
Beagle333 is offline  
Old February 22, 2013, 06:37 PM   #13
deerslayer303
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 10, 2011
Location: Leesville SC
Posts: 2,652
Absolutely
__________________
"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
- Thomas Jefferson
deerslayer303 is offline  
Old March 14, 2013, 01:30 AM   #14
IROCZ
Member
 
Join Date: April 1, 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 21
Well? Did ya fix it?
IROCZ is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:36 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2021 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Page generated in 0.05618 seconds with 10 queries