.223 Rem to .30 Luger forming dies?

anand · November 25, 2002, 08:43 PM

Greetings,
I was looking at some stuff about forming .30 Luger cases from .223 Rem brass. Now I was wondering if the same case forming dies used to do this, could also be used to form .30 Luger cases from .30 Mauser or 7.62x25 Tokarev cases.

Or do I need custom case forming dies?

thanks,
Anand

Kenneth L. Walters · November 26, 2002, 08:07 PM

I've formed both from 223 but I never tried to go from one to the other.

If memory serves, and it has been a very long time, the 30 Mauser formed brass was a bit short but workable. I don't remember much about the 30 Luger. Still I don't see why this wouldn't work. RCBS sells the needed dies. You could always call them and ask.

Intel6 · November 27, 2002, 12:24 AM

I have formed perfectly good .30 Luger brass for my Walther P5 by running 9x21 or 9x23 brass in a .30 Luger sizing die. The 9x21 is a bit short and the 9x23 needs to be trimmed slightly but works great.

Paul Fitz Jones · December 21, 2002, 03:17 AM

I have sussessfully made 30 mauser and 30 luger from 223 fired blanks brass and have loading dies, brass, ton of 223 and live ammo and dies plus 2 lugers one an american eagle to sell off [email protected]

dfm · December 23, 2002, 02:29 AM

I'll go along with Intel6. Get some 9x21 cases and neck down. As stated they come out a little short but work just fine.

dfm

WIL TERRY · December 26, 2002, 12:27 PM

BLACK HILLS SHOOTER SUPPLY
RAPID CITY, SD

THEY HAVE W-W 30LUGER BRASS IN STOCK. SAW IT THIS MORNING.

Gewehr98 · December 26, 2002, 10:56 PM

Before StarLine came out with their boxer-primed 7.62x25 Tokarev brass, I had cut down and reformed a bunch of .223 Remington for my CZ-52 pistol. I used the standard sizing dies to do so, however. I dunno if one really needs one of the expensive forming dies.

EchoFiveMike · December 27, 2002, 01:25 AM

Seems like lots of work. Midway carries 30 luger brass, off and on. Winchester makes a run once a year or so, and they do loaded ammo also. IIRC Starline makes 30 Luger brass too. S/F...Ken M

November 25, 2002, 08:43 PM	#1
anand Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 1999 Posts: 276	.223 Rem to .30 Luger forming dies? Greetings, I was looking at some stuff about forming .30 Luger cases from .223 Rem brass. Now I was wondering if the same case forming dies used to do this, could also be used to form .30 Luger cases from .30 Mauser or 7.62x25 Tokarev cases. Or do I need custom case forming dies? thanks, Anand

December 21, 2002, 03:17 AM	#4
Paul Fitz Jones Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2002 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 266	Selling off 50 years of shooting supplues I have sussessfully made 30 mauser and 30 luger from 223 fired blanks brass and have loading dies, brass, ton of 223 and live ammo and dies plus 2 lugers one an american eagle to sell off [email protected] __________________ Paul Fitz Jones Retired and Loving It Industry Manufacturer Competitor Police Firearms Instructor

December 26, 2002, 12:27 PM	#6
WIL TERRY Senior Member Join Date: July 6, 2000 Location: BLACK HILLS Posts: 1,322	BUT THE EASIEST WAY IS STILL TO HAVE YORE DEALER ORDER IT FROMT BLACK HILLS SHOOTER SUPPLY RAPID CITY, SD THEY HAVE W-W 30LUGER BRASS IN STOCK. SAW IT THIS MORNING.

December 26, 2002, 10:56 PM	#7
Gewehr98 Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2000 Location: Token Creek, WI Posts: 4,067	It's a lot of work. Before StarLine came out with their boxer-primed 7.62x25 Tokarev brass, I had cut down and reformed a bunch of .223 Remington for my CZ-52 pistol. I used the standard sizing dies to do so, however. I dunno if one really needs one of the expensive forming dies. __________________ "Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round... Neural Misfires

November 26, 2002, 08:07 PM	#2
Kenneth L. Walters Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 1999 Location: flagstaff, arizona Posts: 477	I've formed both from 223 but I never tried to go from one to the other. If memory serves, and it has been a very long time, the 30 Mauser formed brass was a bit short but workable. I don't remember much about the 30 Luger. Still I don't see why this wouldn't work. RCBS sells the needed dies. You could always call them and ask.

November 27, 2002, 12:24 AM	#3
Intel6 Senior Member Join Date: October 13, 2000 Posts: 425	I have formed perfectly good .30 Luger brass for my Walther P5 by running 9x21 or 9x23 brass in a .30 Luger sizing die. The 9x21 is a bit short and the 9x23 needs to be trimmed slightly but works great.

December 23, 2002, 02:29 AM	#5
dfm Member Join Date: May 19, 2002 Posts: 99	I'll go along with Intel6. Get some 9x21 cases and neck down. As stated they come out a little short but work just fine. dfm

December 27, 2002, 01:25 AM	#8
EchoFiveMike Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2000 Posts: 416	Seems like lots of work. Midway carries 30 luger brass, off and on. Winchester makes a run once a year or so, and they do loaded ammo also. IIRC Starline makes 30 Luger brass too. S/F...Ken M