Most durable handgun you can think of? - Page 3

tipoc · May 28, 2015, 11:18 PM

The Mak is also a tough and durable gun.

**44 AMP** · May 29, 2015, 10:28 AM

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Makarov vote here. Less moving parts then your floating barrel counter parts.

If fewest moving parts is the criteria, then I would suggest a matchlock pistol.

darkgael · May 29, 2015, 11:57 AM

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Durable - simple. Mispec Makarov. Soviet version of our 1911 but less moving parts. I think you'd actually have to deliberately try to break one.

Soviet version of our 1911??
That requires some explaining. Soviet version of a Walther maybe.
The Makarov is a durable gun; more importantly, it is reliable.
Back when soviet ammo was cheap and available, I bought cases of Mak ammo.Shot it all. NOT ONE ftf.
My 1911 GC is well over 60k reliably.

spacecoast · May 29, 2015, 12:44 PM

I have an Remington New Model Army that still shoots fine after 150 years. That's pretty durable.

Dirty_Harry · May 30, 2015, 09:51 PM

HK USP

cougar gt-e · May 30, 2015, 11:38 PM

Sw 460 magnum revolver, but shooting only lite loaded 45colt.

Shadi Khalil · June 1, 2015, 10:15 AM

From my experience its two of my Rugers; the New Vaquero or 22/45. Both are built like tanks and take anything I can throw at them. Also, I've found that my M&P is pretty tough as well. I don't buy into the notion that any brand name is guaranteed to out last the owner. I've had too many guns break on my over the years to have that kind of faith.

Webleymkv · June 1, 2015, 07:33 PM

I'd nominate a medieval hand-cannon. No rifling, springs, slide rails, or small parts to wear out. Heck, there aren't any moving parts at all unless you count whatever piece of burning material you stick in the flash hole to ignite the powder. Might be kind of hard to find a IWB holster though

rodfac · June 3, 2015, 06:37 PM

Most any caliber Ruger Blackhawk....virtually indestructible, especially so in stainless steel. In 50+ years of handgun shooting, a Ruger single action would be my first choice. Rod

JeffK · June 3, 2015, 10:57 PM

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Or Google Hi-Piont to see the real abuse champion, and TRULY no questions asked warrantee, and customer service!

Yeah, pretty amazing, if durable means able to be absolutely tortured and still work fine, there are some pretty amazing videos out there, for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FoW...916C505DA82E19

bungiex88 · June 5, 2015, 01:46 AM

I wonder if crossbreed could make me a iwb holster for a .54 flintlock pistol. Might have to buy way oversized pants

CajunBass · June 7, 2015, 04:17 PM

A Ruger Single-Six, in 22 LR.

The trailer hitch ball of handguns.

If you manage to wear one out, you have done something to brag about.

Actually, if you manage to wear out any quality handgun, brag about it.

Bentonville · June 8, 2015, 06:43 AM

Hk . Any flavor.

WVMountaineer · June 12, 2015, 07:29 PM

For durability, a Ruger Redhawk is the king on the mountain. We aren't talking favorites or abuse. We are talking durability. And, we all know deep down inside the answer to this one. God Bless

Stevie-Ray · June 13, 2015, 11:54 AM

Have to agree with the Redhawk. I bought mine, in .44 mag, to experiment with heavy loads, before I decided that was no fun. Was able to fry a couple scopes, before settling on Burris, which don't seem to break, but the gun was the recommended item for doing just this at the time. Any others, other than perhaps the Dan Wesson, which was astronomically priced, were not. The icing on the cake was that I considered it the most beautiful revolver ever produced. Still do, though it generally sits in the safe, as my focus shifted early to autos. That said, my Colt Mark IV ingested about 15-20,000 rounds during a stretch of a few years, while I prepared for IPSC. I still consider it the finest gun I own. And the early Ruger rimfire autos go without saying, if you're considering rimfire.

bamaranger · June 13, 2015, 02:52 PM

Its just not lots of shooting that will disable or spoil a handguns usefullness. The weak link in all the top quality DA revolvers, and any auto so equipped as well, is the dang gum adjustable rear sights. I personally, thru no intentional act, have goobered the rear sights on a Smith L-frame, and a Smith K, both in duty rigs, resultant of a hard fall at just the right angle and landing on the holster. Didn't do me any good either.

Saw an accessory the other day, a HD looking "fixed" rear sight, that screws into the recess of the rear target sight for S & W revolvers. That would be an attractive accessory to me, were I too be carrying a Smith for serious business.

The old channel type fixed sight as on the Model 10 's M&P's and the big 1917 and New Service types, and the original Peacemakers would have held up much better I'm sure. So too I suspect fixed (well driftable) steel/metal sights on an auto like the 1911 and others. The factory sights on all Glock, adjustable or not, are pretty crappy. MY G34 today had a plastic dingy hanging off the front blade, which I had to clip off.....looked like a hangnail.

Another chink in many pistols are the grips. Loose a grip panel, and on some models, very vital mechanisms are no longer contained or retained in their proper locations. For all my enthusiasm for the brand, the SIGS are a classic example of this fault. Yeah, proper maintenance should catch a loose grip screw....but stuff happens. In really rough use, stuff gets wacked pretty hard, abused regularly. And it may be some time between maintenance intervals. Check out combat photos of any era, .....guns missing parts/cracked parts, are pretty common.

bamaranger · June 13, 2015, 02:55 PM

Surprised, really by all the endorsements of the Makarov. Its predecessor, the Tokarev, had even fewer parts (I suspect) including an ejector that was a milled part of the frame. The Tok seems like the AK of handguns.

rep1954 · June 14, 2015, 03:00 PM

Ruger Single Six unless you need something with more power then Ruger NM Blackhawk in 357. Stainless if you wish but all guns need cleaning and lube to survive.

mehavey · June 14, 2015, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DAKOTA

Colt 1911 I guess.

Finally... someone said what should been the first answer in this long thread.

745SW · June 14, 2015, 03:59 PM

IMO the Glock 17 appears to be the king of round count durability. All steel is king for time/years durability while alloy is somewhere inbetween. Round count can approach 100K using a fast powder loaded just to reliable cycling for the 45ACP and 9mm.

AK103K · June 14, 2015, 05:09 PM

Right now, Ive got a couple of Glocks that are doing pretty good. My one 17 Ive been keeping track of, just past 84,000 rounds yesterday.

I never had any issue with my Colt 1911's, SIG's, HP's, HK's, and a few others either, although I dont have round counts on them. They were shot like the Glocks while it was their turn.

I havent had very good luck with most of the 1911 clones or the Rugers though.

745SW · June 14, 2015, 05:35 PM

Gaston Glock shot with his left hand in case the pistol blew-up in developing his pistol. This level of commitment along with his US marketing guru, Karl Walther, appears to have impacted the industry in a big way.

Deaf Smith · June 15, 2015, 02:30 AM

Toklat Ruger Super Redhawk in .454, with the proviso one uses ONLY .45 LC standard velocity ammo.

60,000 cup gun using only 18,000 cup ammo ought to last forever.

Deaf

BIG P · June 16, 2015, 11:37 PM

SRH.: IN 454 EVEN IF YOU CAN STAND THE RECOIL 50% OF THE TIME IT WILL LAST YEARS AN YEARS. HAD MINE ABOUT 20 YEARS.Maybe the grandkids can tear it up.But I dont think so.

mes228 · June 17, 2015, 09:43 AM

I shoot just about every week and have for years. Truthfully, I've never owned a non-durable pistol. I've had pistols that had some issues but as far as wearing one out, I haven't done it.

My highest round count pistols are probably Glock's. With well over 10K rounds through a couple. I have a Glock 23 that I've carried for 16 years and shoot regularly. It looks like new and have little discernible wear. They've been fired a lot, and carried a lot BUT NOT PRESENTED FROM THE HOLSTER A LOT. Most people would probably guess 1K or less through them. I've always lubed with RemOil with Teflon and Sentry Hi-Slip grease on all contact points. I don't think most could afford the ammo to wear a pistol out today. I know I couldn't.

May 30, 2015, 09:51 PM	#55
Dirty_Harry Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 1,484	HK USP __________________ "The only purpose for a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you never should have laid down." "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I expect the same from them." -John Wayne

June 3, 2015, 06:37 PM	#59
rodfac Senior Member Join Date: January 22, 2005 Location: Kentucky Posts: 3,623	Most any caliber Ruger Blackhawk....virtually indestructible, especially so in stainless steel. In 50+ years of handgun shooting, a Ruger single action would be my first choice. Rod __________________ Cherish our flag, honor it, defend it in word and deed, or get the hell out. Our Bill of Rights has been paid for by heros in uniform and shall not be diluted by misguided governmental social experiments. We owe this to our children, anything less is cowardice. USAF FAC, 5th Spl Forces, Vietnam Vet '69-'73.

June 7, 2015, 04:17 PM	#62
CajunBass Senior Member Join Date: May 6, 2005 Location: North Chesterfield, Virginia Posts: 4,767	A Ruger Single-Six, in 22 LR. The trailer hitch ball of handguns. If you manage to wear one out, you have done something to brag about. Actually, if you manage to wear out any quality handgun, brag about it. __________________ For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16 (NKJV)

June 13, 2015, 11:54 AM	#65
Stevie-Ray Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: The shores of Lake Huron Posts: 4,783	Have to agree with the Redhawk. I bought mine, in .44 mag, to experiment with heavy loads, before I decided that was no fun. Was able to fry a couple scopes, before settling on Burris, which don't seem to break, but the gun was the recommended item for doing just this at the time. Any others, other than perhaps the Dan Wesson, which was astronomically priced, were not. The icing on the cake was that I considered it the most beautiful revolver ever produced. Still do, though it generally sits in the safe, as my focus shifted early to autos. That said, my Colt Mark IV ingested about 15-20,000 rounds during a stretch of a few years, while I prepared for IPSC. I still consider it the finest gun I own. And the early Ruger rimfire autos go without saying, if you're considering rimfire. __________________ Stevie-Ray Join the NRA/ILA I am the weapon; my gun is a tool. It's regrettable that with some people those descriptors are reversed.

June 13, 2015, 02:52 PM	#66
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,308	weakness Its just not lots of shooting that will disable or spoil a handguns usefullness. The weak link in all the top quality DA revolvers, and any auto so equipped as well, is the dang gum adjustable rear sights. I personally, thru no intentional act, have goobered the rear sights on a Smith L-frame, and a Smith K, both in duty rigs, resultant of a hard fall at just the right angle and landing on the holster. Didn't do me any good either. Saw an accessory the other day, a HD looking "fixed" rear sight, that screws into the recess of the rear target sight for S & W revolvers. That would be an attractive accessory to me, were I too be carrying a Smith for serious business. The old channel type fixed sight as on the Model 10 's M&P's and the big 1917 and New Service types, and the original Peacemakers would have held up much better I'm sure. So too I suspect fixed (well driftable) steel/metal sights on an auto like the 1911 and others. The factory sights on all Glock, adjustable or not, are pretty crappy. MY G34 today had a plastic dingy hanging off the front blade, which I had to clip off.....looked like a hangnail. Another chink in many pistols are the grips. Loose a grip panel, and on some models, very vital mechanisms are no longer contained or retained in their proper locations. For all my enthusiasm for the brand, the SIGS are a classic example of this fault. Yeah, proper maintenance should catch a loose grip screw....but stuff happens. In really rough use, stuff gets wacked pretty hard, abused regularly. And it may be some time between maintenance intervals. Check out combat photos of any era, .....guns missing parts/cracked parts, are pretty common.

May 28, 2015, 11:18 PM	#51
tipoc Senior Member Join Date: December 11, 2004 Location: Redwood City, Ca. Posts: 4,114	The Mak is also a tough and durable gun.

May 29, 2015, 12:44 PM	#54
spacecoast Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Location: Sunshine and Keystone States Posts: 4,461	I have an Remington New Model Army that still shoots fine after 150 years. That's pretty durable.

May 30, 2015, 11:38 PM	#56
cougar gt-e Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2009 Posts: 1,003	Sw 460 magnum revolver, but shooting only lite loaded 45colt.

June 1, 2015, 10:15 AM	#57
Shadi Khalil Senior Member Join Date: September 23, 2006 Location: Alexandria, VA Posts: 5,210	From my experience its two of my Rugers; the New Vaquero or 22/45. Both are built like tanks and take anything I can throw at them. Also, I've found that my M&P is pretty tough as well. I don't buy into the notion that any brand name is guaranteed to out last the owner. I've had too many guns break on my over the years to have that kind of faith.

June 1, 2015, 07:33 PM	#58
Webleymkv Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 10,446	I'd nominate a medieval hand-cannon. No rifling, springs, slide rails, or small parts to wear out. Heck, there aren't any moving parts at all unless you count whatever piece of burning material you stick in the flash hole to ignite the powder. Might be kind of hard to find a IWB holster though

June 5, 2015, 01:46 AM	#61
bungiex88 Senior Member Join Date: May 14, 2015 Location: central pa Posts: 264	I wonder if crossbreed could make me a iwb holster for a .54 flintlock pistol. Might have to buy way oversized pants

June 8, 2015, 06:43 AM	#63
Bentonville Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2002 Location: NC Posts: 345	Hk . Any flavor.

June 12, 2015, 07:29 PM	#64
WVMountaineer Senior Member Join Date: January 11, 2015 Posts: 330	For durability, a Ruger Redhawk is the king on the mountain. We aren't talking favorites or abuse. We are talking durability. And, we all know deep down inside the answer to this one. God Bless

June 13, 2015, 02:55 PM	#67
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,308	While I'm at it Surprised, really by all the endorsements of the Makarov. Its predecessor, the Tokarev, had even fewer parts (I suspect) including an ejector that was a milled part of the frame. The Tok seems like the AK of handguns.

June 14, 2015, 03:00 PM	#68
rep1954 Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2009 Location: Mid Western Michigan Posts: 1,187	Ruger Single Six unless you need something with more power then Ruger NM Blackhawk in 357. Stainless if you wish but all guns need cleaning and lube to survive.

June 14, 2015, 03:59 PM	#70
745SW Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2011 Location: California Posts: 776	IMO the Glock 17 appears to be the king of round count durability. All steel is king for time/years durability while alloy is somewhere inbetween. Round count can approach 100K using a fast powder loaded just to reliable cycling for the 45ACP and 9mm. Last edited by 745SW; June 14, 2015 at 10:08 PM.

June 14, 2015, 05:09 PM	#71
AK103K Senior Member Join Date: May 1, 2001 Posts: 10,223	Right now, Ive got a couple of Glocks that are doing pretty good. My one 17 Ive been keeping track of, just past 84,000 rounds yesterday. I never had any issue with my Colt 1911's, SIG's, HP's, HK's, and a few others either, although I dont have round counts on them. They were shot like the Glocks while it was their turn. I havent had very good luck with most of the 1911 clones or the Rugers though.

June 14, 2015, 05:35 PM	#72
745SW Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2011 Location: California Posts: 776	Gaston Glock shot with his left hand in case the pistol blew-up in developing his pistol. This level of commitment along with his US marketing guru, Karl Walther, appears to have impacted the industry in a big way.

June 15, 2015, 02:30 AM	#73
Deaf Smith Senior Member Join Date: October 31, 2000 Location: Texican! Posts: 4,453	Toklat Ruger Super Redhawk in .454, with the proviso one uses ONLY .45 LC standard velocity ammo. 60,000 cup gun using only 18,000 cup ammo ought to last forever. Deaf __________________ “To you who call yourselves ‘men of peace,’ I say, you are not safe without men of action by your side” Thucydides

June 16, 2015, 11:37 PM	#74
BIG P Senior Member Join Date: July 8, 2010 Location: North Georgia Posts: 1,679	SRH.: IN 454 EVEN IF YOU CAN STAND THE RECOIL 50% OF THE TIME IT WILL LAST YEARS AN YEARS. HAD MINE ABOUT 20 YEARS.Maybe the grandkids can tear it up.But I dont think so. Last edited by BIG P; June 16, 2015 at 11:48 PM.

June 17, 2015, 09:43 AM	#75
mes228 Senior Member Join Date: July 19, 2005 Posts: 628	Durable I shoot just about every week and have for years. Truthfully, I've never owned a non-durable pistol. I've had pistols that had some issues but as far as wearing one out, I haven't done it. My highest round count pistols are probably Glock's. With well over 10K rounds through a couple. I have a Glock 23 that I've carried for 16 years and shoot regularly. It looks like new and have little discernible wear. They've been fired a lot, and carried a lot BUT NOT PRESENTED FROM THE HOLSTER A LOT. Most people would probably guess 1K or less through them. I've always lubed with RemOil with Teflon and Sentry Hi-Slip grease on all contact points. I don't think most could afford the ammo to wear a pistol out today. I know I couldn't.