Ouch! That hurts. Anyone know....

tlhelmer · July 8, 2001, 05:00 PM

Where I can find a better stock pad for my Beretta 1200FP? I shot a box of fields loads and 5 magnum rounds the other day and have a huge bruise on my shoulder.

C.R.Sam · July 8, 2001, 05:26 PM

Recoil pads are wonderful but it sounds like you might be mounting the gun improperly. Nice firm mount vs loosly mounted can make all the difference in the world in perceived recoil.

Things WILL get better.

Sam

Dave R · July 8, 2001, 06:03 PM

Better stock pad? I've heard nice things about the Decelerator.

What CR said. Proper mount, holding the stock firmly in the hollow of your shoulder make a big difference. I bruised the first few times I shot 12 ga. As I got more proficient, the bruising (and the perceived recoil) largely went away. Then, I tried throwing my own birds with a hand thrower, then mounting and shooting. My mounts got slppy and I bruised again (but it CAN be done).

Magnum loads? That could make a big difference. Worst recoil I ever experienced was 3" magnum 00 buck. I will probably never shoot the rest of that box unless TSHTF.

tlhelmer · July 9, 2001, 02:12 PM

Sam, It was properly mounted, but the factory stock has a hard ( an I mean hard) plastic butt plate. The field loads were not that bad, but the magnum loads felt like a kick to the shoulder. My Remington 870 Pump has a soft rubber but plate made by choate and it is more comfotable than the Beretta 1200 's Semi auto kick.

C.R.Sam · July 9, 2001, 02:34 PM

Ouch......sorry bout the inference re bad mount but felt I had to throw in the idea just in case.......

Sam

KSFreeman · July 9, 2001, 02:36 PM

I like the Decelerator. Stay the heck away from the soft recoil pad as they grab clothing. The Pachy is nice and hard and will not grab.

Better yet, get thee to shooting skuul. They will learn you right. It is not the weapon, but the man.

tlhelmer · July 9, 2001, 04:56 PM

Is there a website for the decelerator?

johnbt · July 9, 2001, 07:59 PM

www.pachmayr.com/cl1.html

I second the recommendation on the Decelerator.

According to Pachmayr, their pre-fit models may or may not fit precisely depending on when a gun was made. I put one on a wood-stocked 1993 Remington Express Magnum a couple of years ago and had to sand the pad down to size - they provide directions with the pad. I suggest calling them if you go the pre-fit route.

John

Zoosh · July 10, 2001, 02:44 AM

I recomend the Hogue Comp Stock.
It's more expensive, but it has
a spring and a cam inside,
and it really works... it helps
me get through a long shotgun class
with slugs, etc.

Dave McC · July 10, 2001, 04:42 AM

Another vote for the Decellerator. Excellent pad.

A little note about recoil. Ed Matunas published a table of free recoil in a recent issue of Sporting Clays. This assumes a 7 1/2 lb shotgun.

An oz of pellets at 1180 FPS( similiar to my trap reloads) has 18.6 ft/lbs of FR.

An oz at 1350 has 24.4 ft/lbs.

1 1/4 oz at 1275 has 32.2. See where this is going?

1 3/8 oz at 1265 has 39.5, over TWICE the free recoil of that trap load.

Lightening the load, slowing it down a bit, and heavying up the gun cut kick. Using a top quality pad just makes sense...

July 8, 2001, 05:00 PM	#1
tlhelmer Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 628	Ouch! That hurts. Anyone know.... Where I can find a better stock pad for my Beretta 1200FP? I shot a box of fields loads and 5 magnum rounds the other day and have a huge bruise on my shoulder.

July 8, 2001, 06:03 PM	#3
Dave R Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2000 Location: Idaho Posts: 6,073	Better stock pad? I've heard nice things about the Decelerator. What CR said. Proper mount, holding the stock firmly in the hollow of your shoulder make a big difference. I bruised the first few times I shot 12 ga. As I got more proficient, the bruising (and the perceived recoil) largely went away. Then, I tried throwing my own birds with a hand thrower, then mounting and shooting. My mounts got slppy and I bruised again (but it CAN be done). Magnum loads? That could make a big difference. Worst recoil I ever experienced was 3" magnum 00 buck. I will probably never shoot the rest of that box unless TSHTF. __________________ I am Pro-Rights (on gun issues).

July 10, 2001, 02:44 AM	#9
Zoosh Member Join Date: February 26, 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 30	Comp stock I recomend the Hogue Comp Stock. It's more expensive, but it has a spring and a cam inside, and it really works... it helps me get through a long shotgun class with slugs, etc.

July 8, 2001, 05:26 PM	#2
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Recoil pads are wonderful but it sounds like you might be mounting the gun improperly. Nice firm mount vs loosly mounted can make all the difference in the world in perceived recoil. Things WILL get better. Sam

July 9, 2001, 02:12 PM	#4
tlhelmer Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 628	Sam, It was properly mounted, but the factory stock has a hard ( an I mean hard) plastic butt plate. The field loads were not that bad, but the magnum loads felt like a kick to the shoulder. My Remington 870 Pump has a soft rubber but plate made by choate and it is more comfotable than the Beretta 1200 's Semi auto kick.

July 9, 2001, 02:34 PM	#5
C.R.Sam Senior Member Join Date: October 29, 1999 Location: Dewey, AZ Posts: 12,858	Ouch......sorry bout the inference re bad mount but felt I had to throw in the idea just in case....... Sam

July 9, 2001, 02:36 PM	#6
KSFreeman Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2001 Location: Lafayette, Indiana--American-occupied America Posts: 5,418	I like the Decelerator. Stay the heck away from the soft recoil pad as they grab clothing. The Pachy is nice and hard and will not grab. Better yet, get thee to shooting skuul. They will learn you right. It is not the weapon, but the man.

July 9, 2001, 04:56 PM	#7
tlhelmer Senior Member Join Date: June 14, 2000 Location: Indiana Posts: 628	Is there a website for the decelerator?

July 9, 2001, 07:59 PM	#8
johnbt Senior Member Join Date: December 6, 1999 Location: Richmond, Virginia USA Posts: 6,004	www.pachmayr.com/cl1.html I second the recommendation on the Decelerator. According to Pachmayr, their pre-fit models may or may not fit precisely depending on when a gun was made. I put one on a wood-stocked 1993 Remington Express Magnum a couple of years ago and had to sand the pad down to size - they provide directions with the pad. I suggest calling them if you go the pre-fit route. John

July 10, 2001, 04:42 AM	#10
Dave McC Staff In Memoriam Join Date: October 13, 1999 Location: Columbia, Md, USA Posts: 8,811	Another vote for the Decellerator. Excellent pad. A little note about recoil. Ed Matunas published a table of free recoil in a recent issue of Sporting Clays. This assumes a 7 1/2 lb shotgun. An oz of pellets at 1180 FPS( similiar to my trap reloads) has 18.6 ft/lbs of FR. An oz at 1350 has 24.4 ft/lbs. 1 1/4 oz at 1275 has 32.2. See where this is going? 1 3/8 oz at 1265 has 39.5, over TWICE the free recoil of that trap load. Lightening the load, slowing it down a bit, and heavying up the gun cut kick. Using a top quality pad just makes sense...