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November 22, 2015, 08:47 PM | #1 |
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best guns in pistol calibers
please recommend best guns in pistol calibers of 9 mm, .40 s&w, .45 acp and since we are at it 10mm. The pistols should be simple, easy to use, accurate, and easy to maintain.
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The ones that YOU shoot the best, are reliable, you have confidence in, and can afford! The most important thing is that you try several that you select from makes, and models you like. Don't befooled by price either. Mane top of the line, high end guns aren't anything sugnificantly better than less costly name brand guns.
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November 22, 2015, 09:45 PM | #3 |
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"please recommend best guns in pistol calibers of 9 mm, .40 s&w, .45 acp and since we are at it 10mm. The pistols should be simple, easy to use, accurate, and easy to maintain."
and lets not forget.....which one is the cheapest....... |
November 22, 2015, 09:55 PM | #4 |
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Wow. This is such a loaded question. Not specific of a question. You could have hundreds of choices, depending on the need, want and usage. Good luck.
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With your criteria, the modern gun world is your oyster.
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November 23, 2015, 07:10 AM | #6 |
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For the .45 Auto, the 1911 is the clear winner. It's been around for over a century.
For the 9 Luger I'd go with one of the oldest extant Wonder Nines, the Beretta 92 or the CZ 75. Both came out in 1975. Reharding .40 S&W and 10 Auto, who cares? The FBI walked away from both. |
November 23, 2015, 08:49 AM | #7 |
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9mm: Sig X-Five, X-Six
.40: Sig X-Five, X-Six 45: One of the high-end custom 1911's made by Ed Brown 10mm: Tanfoglio Limited Those are the best of breed, in my opinion. Some may argue that the new Sig 10mm is better than the Tanfoglio, but I opted for the Tanfoglio because they are proven in competition with heavy round count, and they have significantly higher capacity. Some may also argue that the P210 is better than the X-Five. I like the capacity of the X-Five and it feels more balanced to me. Accuracy....I couldn't tell you which is better b/t the X5 and the P210. There's a hundred and one "custom" or semi-custom 1911 .45's. Many are fantastic. Ed Brown is consistently good. I'm sure there are others that might be just as good. Last edited by Skans; November 23, 2015 at 08:55 AM. |
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The FBI walked away from DA/SA designs like the CZ75 and Beretta 92 because the transition from DA to SA after the first shot has proven to be far less than optimal. The FBI walked away from SA designs like the 1911 due to training issues. Under pressure and without dedicated training, it's very easy to leave the safety on when you want it off or leave the safety off when you want it on. If you believe that the politically motivated FBI is the final answer in firearms, I pity you. |
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November 23, 2015, 08:57 AM | #9 |
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IMHO, the FBI "dumbs-down" their weapon choice so that weak and inferior shooters can manage the weapon. FBI - prime example of political correctness run amuck. Thank heaven we ignorant civilians aren't regulated by FBI geniuses when it comes to our gun choices.
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They could correct that, but Congress would never allocate the monies ncessary to train to a hi level, which to me would mean shooting at least weekly..
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True statements here
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November 23, 2015, 03:52 PM | #12 |
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Steel framed M1911s are what I would recommend.
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November 23, 2015, 04:29 PM | #13 |
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FBI does not use .40 s&w? what does FBI uses then?
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November 23, 2015, 04:53 PM | #15 |
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1911 for .45 and 10, Browning HP for 9 and .40.
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November 23, 2015, 07:47 PM | #16 |
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Glock is the only real option for a decent 10mm. Might as well keep them all in the Glock family.
I've owned pretty much all of them, I still own several examples of other brands, but if my life were on the line I'm reaching for a Glock regardless of caliber. |
November 23, 2015, 08:06 PM | #17 |
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I am reading that glocks in .40 s&w do not have sufficient chamber support - really don't know exactly what that means. can someone explain please.
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November 23, 2015, 09:14 PM | #18 |
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Gun blogs debate this issue ad infinitum. Huge arguments ensue regarding Glock, Sig, HK, S&W, and any number of other brands. The one thing I can tell you absolutely for sure is that there is no answer that people will agree on. Law enforcement officers, military, and various "gun experts" will have different opinions.
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Basically the feed ramp on earlier Glock barrels was cut into the chamber deep enough that it left a portion of the case exposed, or "unsupported". With a high pressure cartridge such as the 40 S&W the gap allows a buldge in the case. That works, or softens the brass in that area when run through a special reloading die to remove the buldge resulting in a weak spot in the brass. Coupled with guys trying to turn their perfectly capable 40 into a 10MM, the case can blow out at the weak point. Also, some of the boutique ammo companies that cater to those folks that don't understand what maximum pressure means load so called "+P" rounds that are above industry standards. Particularly for rounds that have no SAAMI +P rating. Basically, use factory standard ammo from reputable manufacturers, don't reload buldged cases, and don't try to push a 40 S&W to +P, or "magnum" levels, and there is no problem.
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Glock for all except the 40. Ditch the 40 from the list. It's time has come and gone (ducking for cover! ).
It's 9mm and 45 ACP for carry guns. 10 mm for outdoor guns and furries.
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November 24, 2015, 01:53 PM | #21 |
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The FBI is not, never has been and never will be the arbiter of what is and is not "best".
There is no "best" anything without specifying a budget and a purpose for the pistol. It's like asking what's the best vehicle.
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I would suggest you look for a Glock 22 or 23 used. About $350. They are .40S&W. You can add a conversion barrel to go to 9mm or up to (I guess it's kind of sideways) .357sig. Three guns for the price of one.
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November 25, 2015, 06:36 PM | #23 |
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I shoot my Ruger P97DC significantly better than a USP .45C, a Sig P220Combat or a SA 1911a1 Target.
I sold the others. They are NOT worse than the Ruger and the P97 is NOT better. I shoot it better. I now have a few other .45acp guns I shoot as well, and 2 I shoot better, but it is what I shoot best- not the brand/quality/design. Don't get wrapped up in a one-brand is best for each one approach. Engage in some experimenting to determine which one works best for you- and don't listen to the punks in the peanut gallery [like me]. |
November 25, 2015, 07:49 PM | #24 |
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Glocks.
S&W 3rd Gen's S&W Current M&P and Shield. Calico Liberty III in 9mm & .40 (they haven't done a .45 yet, also unlikely at this point) but 50 & 100 rounds per mag pretty much says "I see your gang and am still smiling" Except him, he never smiles...(Total Recall) Star Final Gen's (31M/P, Firestars, Ultrastars, Megastars) & the ASTAR MAX 8800 Sigs. Including the Sig/Mauser's. 1911's...and get one of the 22TCM/9mm versions as well
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November 27, 2015, 01:23 PM | #25 |
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I hate Glock's; however, if someone was out to buy all those guns at once they are what I would recommend. Having the same battery of arms on all of your guns can come in handy in a dangerous situation. For the money, reliability, simplicity and availability, they are a great gun.
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