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Old July 16, 2011, 08:38 PM   #1
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sig sp2022 or ruger p95

I'm thinking about getting a sig sp2022, since I want a cheap 9mm DA/SA gun to practice with. Ruger p95 and sig sp2022 are the two front runners. I have above average size hands so the sp2022s large grips shouldnt bother me much, but doing a search on here, more than a few people seem to have had problems with the sig right out of the box.

Obviously you will find negative threads on any gun, but some of the posters are people who were beaming about the great new sig they just picked up for a bargain price, only to turn sour after some range sessions that went badly and a few trips to SIG that didnt resolve the issues.
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Old July 16, 2011, 09:37 PM   #2
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IMO the sp2022 is one of the best guns you can get for your money right now. I personally wouldn't get it in 40 as they seem to have the problems, but I would not hesitate at all to get a 9. It is actually one of the guns up on my list to buy, they have one of the best triggers out of the box out of most guns out there right now that are da/sa.
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Old July 16, 2011, 09:43 PM   #3
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Got the Sig, shot it for the first time today. Great gun, hits to POA, seems to possess great accuracy potential.

Sig vs. Ruger? I pick Sig every day of the week.
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Old July 17, 2011, 12:36 AM   #4
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I would go ruger...it may not be as nice looking but it will do everything the sig can and is american made...which means something to me
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Old July 17, 2011, 10:30 AM   #5
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I went with a P95. The 2022 is a great looking gun and I'm sure is a good shooter but the grips just didn't fit my hands right. The p95 is also $100.00 cheaper around these parts.
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Old July 17, 2011, 10:38 AM   #6
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Sig...or something else

If you're limited to a Sig P2022 or a Ruger P95, I would suggest the sig. Ruger is one of my favorite companies, BUT their P95 isn't their best work. I've shot a few P95s and they never match up in accuracy to any comparable Sigs that I've shot, whether it's a 226, 2022, etc.

Have you looked into the Stoeger Cougar? It's basically the Beretta Cougar, just about half the price, DA/SA and the grip is great. I have one in .40 and it is probably the most reliable semi auto handgun I own. I've put about 1000 rounds of assorted ammo through it and haven't had any issues. 0 FTF, FTE, FTFire, etc. Oh...and it's accurate.

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Old July 17, 2011, 10:40 AM   #7
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SP2022

I own one and love it. It's accurate, reliable and can't beat the price for a SIG. The DA/SA trigger is as good as you can get in the price range. The night sights are awesome as well if you plan to use it as home defense gun.
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Old July 17, 2011, 10:56 AM   #8
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When you're looking at the SP2022, make sure you look at the ones with the newer grips; they are FAR superior to those with the older grips.

The Sig is a great gun; many of the Sig guys at the Sig forum feel it's just as good as their P226 and P229, but with lower weight and lower cost.
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Old July 17, 2011, 12:34 PM   #9
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sig 2022 or P95

I have owned several sigs and the 2022 is my favorite of them all.
Very accurate, a real pleasure to shoot. You cant go wrong
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Old July 17, 2011, 01:26 PM   #10
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Id pick Ruger but not that model........a SR9 or 40 for 400.00 BNIB ......
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Old July 17, 2011, 10:30 PM   #11
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I had a chance to shoot the SR9 at a range and HATED the trigger. Very stiff and gritty pull. But to each his own. The trigger on my XD-40 runs circles around the Ruger's.
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Old July 18, 2011, 08:39 AM   #12
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The newest (out of the factory) SR9s and SR9cs have greatly improved triggers.

I added the Ghost Products trigger bar to mine -- an earlier model -- (had it done, as the trigger assembly on the Ruger is quite complicated) and it made a world of difference. It's now crisp, but still a hair heavier than I like.

You can do the Ghost swap out yourself: they give excellent how-to-do-it photo-rich instructions, but I can be a klutz, sometimes, with small parts.

The 2022 is a fine gun (had one with both .357 SIG and 9MM Bar-Sto barrels), but I think I like the Ruger SR9 better. I think it's a BIG improvement over the P-95, and a better choice than either of the guns mentioned. (But only if you get one with a good factory or after-market improved trigger.)
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Old July 18, 2011, 01:00 PM   #13
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The P95 is a durable/reliable firearm that will do anything you need a firearm to do.A friend and I went to the range, he with his Sig 226 and I with my P95.I shot circles around him. He sold his Sig soon after our range visit. Sigs are great guns but it all comes down to firearm basics and time on the range. My SR9 has a really nice trigger and has been 100%.
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Old July 19, 2011, 04:57 PM   #14
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I'd lean towards the SP2022 (of if you want a Ruger, the very good SR9). The last new P95 I handled just looked so... crude. It had tool marks all over the exterior of the slide and the magazines looked like they were assembled by monkeys. I know looks aren't everything, but I think any gun I spend money on should show a cetain level of fit & finish.
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Old July 19, 2011, 05:02 PM   #15
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Seriously just get both. Thats what I did, but like the SP2022 better. Good Luck.
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Old July 19, 2011, 05:54 PM   #16
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...magazines looked like they were assembled by monkeys.
That has not been my experience with Ruger (or P-95) mags. They use, I think, Mec-Gar mags, which are typically the gold standard for the industry. I wonder if the one you looked at had after-market mags.

The P-95 looks big and bulky, but when you actually get a tape measure out, you find that it's not as big as it looks. Looks are deceiving.

The one I had was quite accurate, but my gunsmith said it was hard to do anything to improve the trigger.

I wouldn't buy another, but really like the SR9. I had a 2022, but never really bonded with it. Someone else may like it -- there was certainly nothing wrong, and it was made with the typical SIG attention to fit and finish.
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Old July 20, 2011, 08:07 AM   #17
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I'm a major Ruger fan, but the P95 is a great starters gun. The 2022 is much much better in design, quality, and features.
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