Anyone ever BUY the dirty tricks course?

Lavan · August 3, 2002, 12:49 PM

Have seen ads in a friend's knife mag collection. Some guy from Visalia or Modesto in California who states (in 2 page ads) that he teaches how to beat ANY fighting discipline with a few sudden moves.

Hype or fact?

Blackhawk · August 3, 2002, 08:28 PM

Obviously hype....

How else would he sell any?

"There's a sucker born every minute."

Hellequin · August 5, 2002, 11:35 AM

Yeah...I´ve seen it. The name is Tom Proctor. He is supposed to have a system that works even for teenage girls in order to knockdown a 300 pound Kick-boxer with just a few movements learned overnight, even if you have no previous skills.

Fantasy, perhaps.....

Better trust my .45

hsg2001 · August 5, 2002, 02:41 PM

Dirty tricks eh

How about some well directed pistol/rifle/shotgun fire?

madgrad · August 5, 2002, 09:22 PM

Rule to remember those types of self defense advertisements are like the ones for wieght loss pills. They promise quick results but in the end give you nothing.

Also, nothing makes you Superman no matter what they promise.

Mort · August 6, 2002, 02:04 AM

Sounds like TRS Publications--I believe that's the acronym. The two page "super-secret destroy any foe" ad is their trademark.

The thing is, they make even good teachers with good instructional videos sound like charlatans with their hype. I know several guys who did tapes with TRS, and they had no input into the ads or the production. Their own fault for being careless.

Quality of the material presented in these videos ranges from suicidal to actually quite good. It all depends on the presenter.

kungfool · August 6, 2002, 05:09 PM

If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

If self-defense could be bottled everyone would have it.

False confidence is worse than no confidence at all.

If you train hard, you will be hard to beat.

You do not become a champion by training with a champion. You become a champion by training LIKE a champion.

The only reason more people aren't going to hell in a handbasket is because there is a shortage of handbaskets.

(okay that last one was just cause I like it)

444 · August 6, 2002, 07:27 PM

"...he teaches how to beat ANY fighting discipline with a few sudden moves."

Ah, but what if the other guy also watched the tapes ?

Hellequin · August 7, 2002, 11:05 AM

very good question....

it would be like a draw or something......it all depends on how many times you have watched the tapes.....

Quartus · August 8, 2002, 06:51 PM

Quote:

The only reason more people aren't going to hell in a handbasket is because there is a shortage of handbaskets.

(okay that last one was just cause I like it)

Yer a smart alek, kungfool! I like that about you!

qkrthnu · August 9, 2002, 12:40 AM

An unexpected CCW is the best "dirty trick" you could pull on a would be atacker.

kungfool · August 9, 2002, 11:55 AM

Of course I've seen those ads.......imagine if an entire class fought each other....there'd be no one left!.........*g*

August 3, 2002, 12:49 PM	#1
Lavan Senior Member Join Date: December 10, 1999 Location: California Posts: 2,716	Anyone ever BUY the dirty tricks course? Have seen ads in a friend's knife mag collection. Some guy from Visalia or Modesto in California who states (in 2 page ads) that he teaches how to beat ANY fighting discipline with a few sudden moves. Hype or fact?

August 5, 2002, 11:35 AM	#3
Hellequin Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2001 Location: Caracas Posts: 137	Yeah...I´ve seen it. The name is Tom Proctor. He is supposed to have a system that works even for teenage girls in order to knockdown a 300 pound Kick-boxer with just a few movements learned overnight, even if you have no previous skills. Fantasy, perhaps..... Better trust my .45 __________________ - Stay safe -

August 7, 2002, 11:05 AM	#9
Hellequin Senior Member Join Date: June 13, 2001 Location: Caracas Posts: 137	very good question.... it would be like a draw or something......it all depends on how many times you have watched the tapes..... __________________ - Stay safe -

August 3, 2002, 08:28 PM	#2
Blackhawk Senior Member Join Date: November 4, 2001 Posts: 5,040	Obviously hype.... How else would he sell any? "There's a sucker born every minute."

August 5, 2002, 02:41 PM	#4
hsg2001 Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2002 Location: Missouri Posts: 104	Dirty tricks eh How about some well directed pistol/rifle/shotgun fire?

August 5, 2002, 09:22 PM	#5
madgrad Member Join Date: July 19, 2001 Posts: 58	Rule to remember those types of self defense advertisements are like the ones for wieght loss pills. They promise quick results but in the end give you nothing. Also, nothing makes you Superman no matter what they promise.

August 6, 2002, 02:04 AM	#6
Mort Senior Member Join Date: December 17, 1998 Posts: 479	Sounds like TRS Publications--I believe that's the acronym. The two page "super-secret destroy any foe" ad is their trademark. The thing is, they make even good teachers with good instructional videos sound like charlatans with their hype. I know several guys who did tapes with TRS, and they had no input into the ads or the production. Their own fault for being careless. Quality of the material presented in these videos ranges from suicidal to actually quite good. It all depends on the presenter.

August 6, 2002, 05:09 PM	#7
kungfool Member Join Date: June 8, 2002 Location: heartland Posts: 76	If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. If self-defense could be bottled everyone would have it. False confidence is worse than no confidence at all. If you train hard, you will be hard to beat. You do not become a champion by training with a champion. You become a champion by training LIKE a champion. The only reason more people aren't going to hell in a handbasket is because there is a shortage of handbaskets. (okay that last one was just cause I like it)

August 6, 2002, 07:27 PM	#8
444 Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2000 Location: Ohio Posts: 3,968	"...he teaches how to beat ANY fighting discipline with a few sudden moves." Ah, but what if the other guy also watched the tapes ?

August 9, 2002, 12:40 AM	#11
qkrthnu Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2002 Posts: 340	An unexpected CCW is the best "dirty trick" you could pull on a would be atacker.

August 9, 2002, 11:55 AM	#12
kungfool Member Join Date: June 8, 2002 Location: heartland Posts: 76	Of course I've seen those ads.......imagine if an entire class fought each other....there'd be no one left!.........g