ASM 1861 Colt Navy - Nipple Size???? - Page 2

Doc Hoy · October 16, 2010, 05:42 PM

Welcome to the forum. CVA import revolvers were once made by ASM (at least some models were.) Deer Creek Products in Waldron Indiana and VTI Gun Parts (on the web) are experts and might be able to answer the question. I learned on Friday that Taylors is getting out of the ASM support business. My guess is that it is too frustrating with the scarcety of parts. And Dixie Guns Works' approach is to substitute present day manufacture parts such as Uberti where that is possible.

I tried a cylinder swap on an 1851 Navy in .36 and found that the diameter of the ratchet ring at the back of the cylinder was just a little oversize for my frame. This prevented the cylinder from seating properly. The ratchets actually came to rest on the recoil ring. I did not try turning the ratchet ring down with a lathe, but that is what would be needed in my case. That attempt was using a Navy Arms steel frame with a cylinder of unknown manufacture.

jmagda41 · March 13, 2015, 04:58 AM

Sorry, but I can't find a conclusive answer as to what size nipples to shop for or where to find them.

I have a CVA 1861 Navy Colt, which I understand is actually an 1860 Army Colt (.44 cal). The bottom of the frame has "5027" stamped into it, if that helps.

I ordered the only blue nipples Cabela had online (Piettas), but they are too large in diameter in the threads. Mine measure, 5mm exactly, when I use calipers on the outside of the threads to measure them.

I've seen a lot of mention of 5.5 and 6 1/2, and don't know what to shop for. I can't keep ordering the wrong sizes and sending them back because they always keep part of the cost for shipping or restocking or something.

Can anyone please help?

wogpotter · March 13, 2015, 12:14 PM

Have you checked Track of the wolf?
http://www.trackofthewolf.com/index.aspx
If you contact them they may know exactly what you want & they carry a huge selection. Failing that I know of one shooter who mailed them a nipple & they matched it for him. (Contact them first & deal with a specific salesperson if you go that route.)

October 16, 2010, 05:42 PM	#26
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Naples, Fl Posts: 5,440	MC, Welcome to the forum. CVA import revolvers were once made by ASM (at least some models were.) Deer Creek Products in Waldron Indiana and VTI Gun Parts (on the web) are experts and might be able to answer the question. I learned on Friday that Taylors is getting out of the ASM support business. My guess is that it is too frustrating with the scarcety of parts. And Dixie Guns Works' approach is to substitute present day manufacture parts such as Uberti where that is possible. I tried a cylinder swap on an 1851 Navy in .36 and found that the diameter of the ratchet ring at the back of the cylinder was just a little oversize for my frame. This prevented the cylinder from seating properly. The ratchets actually came to rest on the recoil ring. I did not try turning the ratchet ring down with a lathe, but that is what would be needed in my case. That attempt was using a Navy Arms steel frame with a cylinder of unknown manufacture. __________________ Seek truth. Relax. Take a breath.

March 13, 2015, 04:58 AM	#27
jmagda41 Junior Member Join Date: March 12, 2015 Posts: 1	CVA 1861 "Navy" Colt Nipple Size Sorry, but I can't find a conclusive answer as to what size nipples to shop for or where to find them. I have a CVA 1861 Navy Colt, which I understand is actually an 1860 Army Colt (.44 cal). The bottom of the frame has "5027" stamped into it, if that helps. I ordered the only blue nipples Cabela had online (Piettas), but they are too large in diameter in the threads. Mine measure, 5mm exactly, when I use calipers on the outside of the threads to measure them. I've seen a lot of mention of 5.5 and 6 1/2, and don't know what to shop for. I can't keep ordering the wrong sizes and sending them back because they always keep part of the cost for shipping or restocking or something. Can anyone please help?

March 13, 2015, 12:14 PM	#28
wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Have you checked Track of the wolf? http://www.trackofthewolf.com/index.aspx If you contact them they may know exactly what you want & they carry a huge selection. Failing that I know of one shooter who mailed them a nipple & they matched it for him. (Contact them first & deal with a specific salesperson if you go that route.) __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”