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July 6, 2014, 10:34 AM | #26 | |
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Good Samaritan laws protect someone who voluntarily renders aid to someone injured or in peril from civil liability to the person helped. And they will not excuse a criminal act of violence.
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July 6, 2014, 11:47 AM | #27 |
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I've got a 75 year old guy on my road who loves to mouth off to anyone who looks at him the wrong way. If I saw him being attacked by a couple of guys with bats I'd call 911 and tell them to send an ambulance for the guys with the bats. 60 might not be the new 30, but it's hardly elderly.
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July 6, 2014, 12:26 PM | #28 |
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Then I suggest you wait until age 60, and then invite three 20-something gangbangers to come test that theory
As before, I will decide based on what I know, and what I see. But I will decide. "Calling 911 and reporting a beating in progress..." however, is worse than pointless. It begins to approach that of spectator sport |
July 6, 2014, 12:42 PM | #29 | |
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I know if I were in the process of being assaulted, I'd much rather have someone come help me before they stopped and called 911. From my personal experience calling 911 on several occasions in two major cities, the typical police response time was about 30 minutes to an hour. That said, I'd still want someone to call 911 as soon as possible, just in case the people helping me weren't enough to stop me from being beaten (or worse).
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July 6, 2014, 12:46 PM | #30 | |
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For the umpteenth time, this is a straw man argument. Nobody is saying that you have to fire your gun if you draw it. What we're saying is that you should never draw your firearm unless you're justified to use it at that moment. Period. But if you draw your weapon and the aggressor stops, of course you shouldn't fire at that point. I already addressed this here and here and here. Quote:
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July 6, 2014, 01:19 PM | #32 | |
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`Should have prefaced w/ Simply calling 911.... I would also offer, however that stopping to dial 911 where you see that seconds count may cause things to become OBE in a hurry. Get someone else to do it in concert w/ whatever action must be taken immediately... or you are going to be in a unending conversation with half your brain & one hand as good as behind your back. Last edited by mehavey; July 6, 2014 at 02:40 PM. |
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July 6, 2014, 01:44 PM | #33 |
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"Warning shot" = "I didn't think it was justified to shoot him, but I fired my gun anyway"
The only possible justification I can come up with for a warning shot is to shoot into the dirt for the noise to stop an aggressive dog. In that case it's really more of an improvised firecracker. Still might get you in trouble for illegal use of a firearm, but at least it won't be attempted murder or aggravated assault. On the topic of involving yourself in someone else's gunfight, I think the question you have to ask yourself is "is this a good day to die?" Sometimes it might be. John 15:13
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You misplaced the word "might". "new shooters that might be reading" does not equal "might be a bad idea."
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July 6, 2014, 03:03 PM | #35 | |
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First, they just might hit the attacker anyway. That has happened. Do you really want to be in a position of having accidentally shot someone when a knowing and willful act might well have been better in terms of liability? Second, a bullet fired into the air might hit an innocent party. That has happened. Better for it to stop in someone. Third, and I did not know this until a few years ago, bullet fired into the ground have been known to reemerge. That has happened. Not a good thing. I'll stop counting, but do consider whether you want to use up some of your ammunition to "warn" someone..... |
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July 6, 2014, 03:08 PM | #36 |
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manta,
If you want to keep advocating for warning shots, please do it on some other board -- not here. It's off topic for this thread, and irresponsible on TFL. pax |
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