Ready Position Debate - Page 2

Hook686 · October 26, 2009, 12:29 PM

At my club's range, the ready low position is required. A couple of years ago the city police department practiced a couple of days a month at our range. At one practice session an officer slipped on racking his .40 pistol and a round was discharged over the berms (there are 4, each progressinely higher out to 330 yards). The bullet came down about 1000 yards from the firing line, hit the windshield of a truck of the company that gathers clay in the field beyond the berms and hit the driver in the leg. As I recall the description the skin was not even broken, but a law suit has been filed. Fortunately it was a city police officer inviolved and not a club member. However, the club is still a defendant in the suit.

Ready low seem wise to my way of thinking, just to establish a sound habit.

Lee Lapin · October 26, 2009, 09:02 PM

Anything BUT high ready (or is that "High Sabrina?"

) for me. No need to let anyone in under your muzzle in close quarters...

lpl

vox rationis · October 27, 2009, 11:34 PM

I was taught that SUL is used when one moves around things that you don't want to "flag" or "sweep", it is simply a method of muzzle control when moving around people. You can use it as a "ready" or quasi retention position, but if I was on high alert and needed to be able to engage a threat as quickly as possible from a ready position, I was taught to use the close to chest ready with the pistol pointed out and at a mild upward angle, pointed toward the potential threat, with the pistol high enough so that one can see the front sight in the periphery of one's vision so that when/if you need to extend out into your isosceles you can start picking up the front sight as early as possible in order to push it onto the target (along with the requisite trigger prep as necessary).

Glenn Dee · November 3, 2009, 08:32 AM

I may catch some flack for this but... "THE READY POSITION IS MOSTLY IN YOUR HEAD" IMO. I believe that most established ready positions are the result of safety and expedience while teaching large groups.

October 26, 2009, 12:29 PM	#26
Hook686 Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2005 Location: USA The Great State of California Posts: 2,090	At my club's range, the ready low position is required. A couple of years ago the city police department practiced a couple of days a month at our range. At one practice session an officer slipped on racking his .40 pistol and a round was discharged over the berms (there are 4, each progressinely higher out to 330 yards). The bullet came down about 1000 yards from the firing line, hit the windshield of a truck of the company that gathers clay in the field beyond the berms and hit the driver in the leg. As I recall the description the skin was not even broken, but a law suit has been filed. Fortunately it was a city police officer inviolved and not a club member. However, the club is still a defendant in the suit. Ready low seem wise to my way of thinking, just to establish a sound habit. __________________ Hook686 When the number of people in institutions reaches 51%, we change sides.

October 26, 2009, 09:02 PM	#27
Lee Lapin Senior Member Join Date: September 7, 2004 Location: SE NC Posts: 1,239	Anything BUT high ready (or is that "High Sabrina?" ) for me. No need to let anyone in under your muzzle in close quarters... lpl __________________ Mindset - Skillset - Toolset. In that order! Attitude and skill will get you through times of no gear, better than gear will get you through times of no attitude and no skill.

October 27, 2009, 11:34 PM	#28
vox rationis Senior Member Join Date: April 15, 2007 Posts: 1,855	I was taught that SUL is used when one moves around things that you don't want to "flag" or "sweep", it is simply a method of muzzle control when moving around people. You can use it as a "ready" or quasi retention position, but if I was on high alert and needed to be able to engage a threat as quickly as possible from a ready position, I was taught to use the close to chest ready with the pistol pointed out and at a mild upward angle, pointed toward the potential threat, with the pistol high enough so that one can see the front sight in the periphery of one's vision so that when/if you need to extend out into your isosceles you can start picking up the front sight as early as possible in order to push it onto the target (along with the requisite trigger prep as necessary).

November 3, 2009, 08:32 AM	#29
Glenn Dee Senior Member Join Date: September 9, 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 1,560	I may catch some flack for this but... "THE READY POSITION IS MOSTLY IN YOUR HEAD" IMO. I believe that most established ready positions are the result of safety and expedience while teaching large groups.