Shocked! K22 Revoler Outshoots M41 Semi??

doc540 · October 13, 2012, 12:13 PM

background:

60+, wear trifocals, iron sight shooting is tough

M41 w/red dot is easier

Haven't practiced with the 5 screw K22 in a month.

Said, "What the heck? Take it out of the safe and shoot it!"

Silhouette match this morning:

I scored higher with the K22 than the M41 (which I've been doing a LOT of practice with)!

Lesson Learned:
Do NOT neglect the K22! Shoot it!

Placed 2nd in my class in both irons and optics. Woot!

mrt949 · October 13, 2012, 12:19 PM

Remember DOC .
2ND PLACE IS THE FIRST LOOSER .

.played that game for manny years . IHMSA & NRA.

jrothWA · October 13, 2012, 07:26 PM

old dog taught the new pup, its' place!!!

Good show!

**4V50 Gary** · October 13, 2012, 08:05 PM

Longer sight radius have anything to do with it?

Bob Wright · October 13, 2012, 08:21 PM

Not surprising! The K- Masterpieces were some of the most accurate target guns ever made.

Ease of following shots, not superior accuracy, is what put the auto loader tall hog at the trough on the firing line!

Bob Wright

doc540 · October 13, 2012, 09:56 PM

Like I mentioned, I wear trifocals, so in order to clearly focus on the front sight I have to look thru the middle of my glasses (computer monitor distance).

Front sight becomes very clear, but the target is more blurry than usual for those with good eyesight.

Been thinking about it, and I have no idea why I was able to do better with the K-22, especially since I hadn't practiced with it for over a month.

These matches (and I've only shot four or five now) throw me some kind of curve every time I shoot one.

Of course, neither gun actually out shoots the other.

I just shot one better than the other today.

Next match? I have NO clue.

Malamute · October 14, 2012, 10:56 AM

I've never been able to consistantly shoot an auto better than a revolver, no matter how mechanically accurate the auto is.

The more the shooting is speeded up, the better I shoot the revolver compared to the auto (in other words, the faster I shoot an auto, the more my shooting degrades compared to a revovler)

doc540 · October 14, 2012, 11:10 AM

The guy in my class that out shoots me and usually takes first place, shoots his auto with optics much faster than most within the 60 second time.

His method is "shoot when the sights are on the target".

And it works well for him.

I try to breathe, bring sights onto the target as I breathe again and press the trigger between breaths.

HOWEVER, I've tried shooting faster with the M41 and red dot, shooting when the dot is on the target.

Sometimes I can just lay five targets down without bringing the gun back down for a breath and reset.

Sure is fun!

mrt949 · October 14, 2012, 08:29 PM

When i started silhouette shooting in thelate 1980's .I watched master shooters with 24 POWER SCOPES shoot standing.I asked how can you do that . His answer was .When I see orange I jerk the trigger.

MrBorland · October 14, 2012, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doc540

Been thinking about it, and I have no idea why I was able to do better with the K-22, especially since I hadn't practiced with it for over a month.

It's not uncommon to pick up a gun that you haven't shot in quite a while (or even someone else's gun) and be more accurate with it. It's usually because you're suddenly paying more attention to the fundamentals. Conversely, it's also telling you you've been getting sloppy when shooting your primary gun.

Scrumbag · October 15, 2012, 12:17 PM

Doc540,

As you my remember I purchased a S&W17-4 at a similar time to you buying your K-22. I have a Woodsman as my .22 Semi-Auto. It gets out shot by the revolver on a regular basis... Interestingly I also wear glasses.

ATB,

Scrummy

October 13, 2012, 12:13 PM	#1
doc540 Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,430	Shocked! K22 Revoler Outshoots M41 Semi?? background: 60+, wear trifocals, iron sight shooting is tough M41 w/red dot is easier Haven't practiced with the 5 screw K22 in a month. Said, "What the heck? Take it out of the safe and shoot it!" Silhouette match this morning: I scored higher with the K22 than the M41 (which I've been doing a LOT of practice with)! Lesson Learned: Do NOT neglect the K22! Shoot it! Placed 2nd in my class in both irons and optics. Woot! __________________ Shooting more, typing less

October 13, 2012, 12:19 PM	#2
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	Remember DOC . 2ND PLACE IS THE FIRST LOOSER . .played that game for manny years . IHMSA & NRA. __________________ No Gun Big Or Small Does It All

October 13, 2012, 07:26 PM	#3
jrothWA Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2006 Posts: 2,519	Sounds like the... old dog taught the new pup, its' place!!! Good show!

October 13, 2012, 08:05 PM	#4
4V50 Gary Staff Join Date: November 2, 1998 Location: Colorado Posts: 21,833	Longer sight radius have anything to do with it? __________________ Vigilantibus et non dormientibus jura subveniunt. *Molon Labe!*

October 13, 2012, 09:56 PM	#6
doc540 Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,430	Like I mentioned, I wear trifocals, so in order to clearly focus on the front sight I have to look thru the middle of my glasses (computer monitor distance). Front sight becomes very clear, but the target is more blurry than usual for those with good eyesight. Been thinking about it, and I have no idea why I was able to do better with the K-22, especially since I hadn't practiced with it for over a month. These matches (and I've only shot four or five now) throw me some kind of curve every time I shoot one. Of course, neither gun actually out shoots the other. I just shot one better than the other today. Next match? I have NO clue. __________________ Shooting more, typing less

October 13, 2012, 08:21 PM	#5
Bob Wright Senior Member Join Date: July 10, 2012 Location: Memphis, Tennessee Posts: 2,989	Not surprising! The K- Masterpieces were some of the most accurate target guns ever made. Ease of following shots, not superior accuracy, is what put the auto loader tall hog at the trough on the firing line! Bob Wright

October 14, 2012, 10:56 AM	#7
Malamute Senior Member Join Date: June 6, 2004 Location: Rocky Mts Posts: 859	I've never been able to consistantly shoot an auto better than a revolver, no matter how mechanically accurate the auto is. The more the shooting is speeded up, the better I shoot the revolver compared to the auto (in other words, the faster I shoot an auto, the more my shooting degrades compared to a revovler) __________________ "Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat." -Theodore Roosevelt-

October 14, 2012, 11:10 AM	#8
doc540 Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 1,430	The guy in my class that out shoots me and usually takes first place, shoots his auto with optics much faster than most within the 60 second time. His method is "shoot when the sights are on the target". And it works well for him. I try to breathe, bring sights onto the target as I breathe again and press the trigger between breaths. HOWEVER, I've tried shooting faster with the M41 and red dot, shooting when the dot is on the target. Sometimes I can just lay five targets down without bringing the gun back down for a breath and reset. Sure is fun! __________________ Shooting more, typing less

October 14, 2012, 08:29 PM	#9
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Posts: 1,692	When i started silhouette shooting in thelate 1980's .I watched master shooters with 24 POWER SCOPES shoot standing.I asked how can you do that . His answer was .When I see orange I jerk the trigger. __________________ No Gun Big Or Small Does It All

October 15, 2012, 12:17 PM	#11
Scrumbag Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2012 Posts: 173	Doc540, As you my remember I purchased a S&W17-4 at a similar time to you buying your K-22. I have a Woodsman as my .22 Semi-Auto. It gets out shot by the revolver on a regular basis... Interestingly I also wear glasses. ATB, Scrummy