To the staff

Harry Bonar · November 11, 2006, 09:55 PM

Sirs:
You are not allowing me time to type my post! I am 70 and a one finger typist. By the time I invest time to post you shut me off. If you do this again I will forget about the Forum!
Harry N. Bonar

**Bud Helms** · November 11, 2006, 10:21 PM

Harry, try composing your post in a word processor or text editor. When you are finished, copy it and paste it into your post. That way your posting/edit window is only open a very short time.

**Unclenick** · November 12, 2006, 06:33 PM

Bud,

This is curious. Might it have something to do with security settings? I just started a post, went away to the mall to get some jeans, stopped on the way home to get the wife some salmon fillets, returned, finished composing and posted. No problem. My assumption, from watching Zone Alarm's little communication activity bar, is that once I start an answer, everything is on my machine. As long as the cookie is in place, whenever I decide to post, the machine re-establishes contact with your server and the cookie's presence causes your server to recognize me and accept the post? Am I missing something here? I am using Firefox rather than IE, if that matters?

Nick

El Barto · November 13, 2006, 01:04 PM

I had the same problem about not having enough time to post. When I selected the "remember me" box at the log in, that solved the problem.

I also compose a lot of my posts in Word first, and I type upwards of 90 wpm.

James K · November 13, 2006, 01:52 PM

Harry,

I don't know if the TFL server has a timeout or not, but I suspect the problem is in your local server. Those servers have a "no activity" hiatus timer that closes the connection ("hangs up") if there is nothing received from the user in so many minutes. Sometimes, the timer is variable depending on the amount of traffic in their system, the idea being to free up resources for active users rather than keep an inactive connection ("I went to the mall") open. So you might be able to take a long time at 6AM, but be shut down in ten minutes at 8PM.

When I am typing, as I am now, nothing is being sent to my server, and nothing will be sent until I click on the "submit" button. So if I am typing for 30 minutes, my server is in a no-activity mode and chances are that it (not TFL) will time me out and close the connection on me.

Jim

Harry Bonar · November 13, 2006, 02:58 PM

Thanks Guys!
Harry B.

**Unclenick** · November 13, 2006, 03:52 PM

I think El Barto has it right. My connection is probably breaking when I go Mall hopping, and the auto log-in from recognition is re-establishing the connection when I do finally get around to posting.

Good luck with this, Harry.

Nick

James K · November 14, 2006, 12:14 AM

Hi, Harry,

I don't know what kind of connection you have, but I suspect it may be dial up as that is the type of connection most servers physically terminate (hang up, just like a phone) when no data has been received for a certain period of time.

Jim

Mike in Michigan · November 14, 2006, 01:02 PM

If your computer is hooked up to a phone line you are more likely to get cut off if you haven't hit some keys for a few minutes. This is especially true if you live in a rural area.

MD_Willington · November 15, 2006, 12:04 PM

Even some broadband connections will do this, some DSL subscribers are dropped if they leave the connection on but do nothing. There are applications that will send a PING to the server every so often to maintain the connection.

Harry Bonar · November 19, 2006, 02:54 PM

Dear Sirs:
It's not my internet server that cuts me off; it's the Forum that cuts me off from log in!
Harry B.

cpaspr · November 19, 2006, 04:13 PM

that done to me too. But it's not necessarily the Forum doing it Harry. It might be your computer and it's memory allocation.

There have been times I logged in, responded to a thread, went back to the main page without hitting the back button (and unintentionally returning to a logged out state), then found another thread to respond to and I had to log back in.

El Barto has it right. When you log in, check the box for "Remember Me". That will set a cookie on your computer and keep you from being automatically logged out. You can manually log out when you are done. Or don't, and the next time you come to TFL, you'll be automatically logged in, unless you delete your cookies in the meantime.

November 11, 2006, 09:55 PM	#1
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	To the staff Sirs: You are not allowing me time to type my post! I am 70 and a one finger typist. By the time I invest time to post you shut me off. If you do this again I will forget about the Forum! Harry N. Bonar

November 12, 2006, 06:33 PM	#3
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	Bud, This is curious. Might it have something to do with security settings? I just started a post, went away to the mall to get some jeans, stopped on the way home to get the wife some salmon fillets, returned, finished composing and posted. No problem. My assumption, from watching Zone Alarm's little communication activity bar, is that once I start an answer, everything is on my machine. As long as the cookie is in place, whenever I decide to post, the machine re-establishes contact with your server and the cookie's presence causes your server to recognize me and accept the post? Am I missing something here? I am using Firefox rather than IE, if that matters? Nick __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

November 13, 2006, 02:58 PM	#6
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	time: Thanks Guys! Harry B.

November 13, 2006, 03:52 PM	#7
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 21,063	I think El Barto has it right. My connection is probably breaking when I go Mall hopping, and the auto log-in from recognition is re-establishing the connection when I do finally get around to posting. Good luck with this, Harry. Nick __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Benefactor Member and Golden Eagle

November 14, 2006, 01:02 PM	#9
Mike in Michigan Member Join Date: May 18, 2004 Posts: 34	time out If your computer is hooked up to a phone line you are more likely to get cut off if you haven't hit some keys for a few minutes. This is especially true if you live in a rural area.

November 11, 2006, 10:21 PM	#2
Bud Helms Senior Member Join Date: December 31, 1999 Location: Middle Georgia, USA Posts: 13,198	Harry, try composing your post in a word processor or text editor. When you are finished, copy it and paste it into your post. That way your posting/edit window is only open a very short time.

November 13, 2006, 01:04 PM	#4
El Barto Member Join Date: February 16, 2006 Location: Maywood, CA Posts: 64	I had the same problem about not having enough time to post. When I selected the "remember me" box at the log in, that solved the problem. I also compose a lot of my posts in Word first, and I type upwards of 90 wpm.

November 13, 2006, 01:52 PM	#5
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Harry, I don't know if the TFL server has a timeout or not, but I suspect the problem is in your local server. Those servers have a "no activity" hiatus timer that closes the connection ("hangs up") if there is nothing received from the user in so many minutes. Sometimes, the timer is variable depending on the amount of traffic in their system, the idea being to free up resources for active users rather than keep an inactive connection ("I went to the mall") open. So you might be able to take a long time at 6AM, but be shut down in ten minutes at 8PM. When I am typing, as I am now, nothing is being sent to my server, and nothing will be sent until I click on the "submit" button. So if I am typing for 30 minutes, my server is in a no-activity mode and chances are that it (not TFL) will time me out and close the connection on me. Jim

November 14, 2006, 12:14 AM	#8
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Hi, Harry, I don't know what kind of connection you have, but I suspect it may be dial up as that is the type of connection most servers physically terminate (hang up, just like a phone) when no data has been received for a certain period of time. Jim

November 15, 2006, 12:04 PM	#10
MD_Willington Senior Member Join Date: August 17, 2005 Location: SE WA State. Posts: 563	Even some broadband connections will do this, some DSL subscribers are dropped if they leave the connection on but do nothing. There are applications that will send a PING to the server every so often to maintain the connection.

November 19, 2006, 02:54 PM	#11
Harry Bonar Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Location: In the Vincent, Ohio general area. Posts: 1,804	no time Dear Sirs: It's not my internet server that cuts me off; it's the Forum that cuts me off from log in! Harry B.

November 19, 2006, 04:13 PM	#12
cpaspr Senior Member Join Date: October 20, 2005 Location: Oregon Posts: 304	Been there, had that done to me too. But it's not necessarily the Forum doing it Harry. It might be your computer and it's memory allocation. There have been times I logged in, responded to a thread, went back to the main page without hitting the back button (and unintentionally returning to a logged out state), then found another thread to respond to and I had to log back in. El Barto has it right. When you log in, check the box for "Remember Me". That will set a cookie on your computer and keep you from being automatically logged out. You can manually log out when you are done. Or don't, and the next time you come to TFL, you'll be automatically logged in, unless you delete your cookies in the meantime.