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November 2, 2007, 12:57 PM | #1 |
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Problems with 22.Hornet reloads!
I am haveing a problem with my Hornet reloads. Iam using the same componets. 35 grain V max bullets on used Sellier&Bellot brass over 10.6 grains of Lil Gun powder.The only difference being is that I used Tite group power before.I am shooting a CZ-527FS with a 20.5in barrel.with my old load I could count on 0.75 in groups at 150 yds.Now my groups are an in. or betterwith more that a few flyers.It was suggested by a shooting friend of mine that maybe I should use small rifle mag primers.Icould sure use some help on this.Thanks in advance ELMO.
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November 2, 2007, 02:34 PM | #2 |
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Did you buy the brass used? Hornet brass is so thin and stretches so easily I never could get more than 3-4 loads per case. Using small rifle mag primers could help get a more uniform burn, but I would back off a little on the powder before I tried. I have used lil' gun with hornet loads and like it a lot, but if you had a good load worked up with another powder you might just want to stick with what works.
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November 2, 2007, 07:46 PM | #3 |
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Hornet load problems
I bought 200 rounds from Cabelas of Seiller&Bellot for plinking,the brass is on its 3rd reload.The brass is fire formed to my rifle and I only neck size it.what would you suggest as a powder load or should I go back to Lil Gun thanks for your input
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November 2, 2007, 08:31 PM | #4 |
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November 2, 2007, 11:54 PM | #5 |
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I haven't tinkered with small pistol primers yet in my Hornet, but it is on my "to do" list. It is an old trick that modern Hornet reloaders are starting to re-discover.
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November 3, 2007, 05:44 AM | #6 |
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I'm using small pistol primers in my Hornets, and Remington brass. I personally think the load of 10 grains of Lil Gun is too light. 13 grains seems to be the norm. But, H-110 is the most accurate powder in both of my Hornets, 10.2 grains with Sierra's 45 grain Hornet bullet. I crimp bullets too, with a Lee Hornet crimp die.
The hornet is not an easy round to load for, and using good components is a must, along with the right techniques. Martyn
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November 6, 2007, 09:54 PM | #7 |
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I also agree about the hornet brass being thin and have found that using the small pistol primer has made a different. I believe it has to do with the brass having a weak grip on the bullet and the small rifle primers cause the bullet to move out some before the powder has time to burn consistently. I would think the magnum primers would cause more trouble but I have never tried so I can’t say from experience. Another thing that has increased accuracy for me is the lee crimp die but I think it also shortens the life of my brass so I dont ues it much any more.
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November 8, 2007, 07:45 PM | #8 |
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I would suggest two things.
One, make sure your powder charges are consistent. LilGun is a good powder but not a very forgiving powder. Two, try a milder primer. You want the powder to be the propellant, not the primer. I suggest CCI BR-4 primers. They're about the mildest out there. I don't load for the Hornet but I do load for the Fireball. I like LilGun but see accuracy deviation with small differences in charge weight. I like to use the Lee powder cups when loading the Fireball. LilGun and RE#7 give me great results, RE#7 being a little more forgiving with deviation in charge weight. I also like a mild crimp. Some deem it an unnecessary step but to my way of tinking it provides consistent loads and with these small cartridges consistency is very important.
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