10/22 Magnum... where did it go ???

Magnum Wheel Man · February 11, 2008, 09:59 AM

so... one of my buds thats been thinking about doing Appleseed training with me this summer, started looking for a 10 / 22 Magnum for the shoot, & some light varmenting... any info I found on them always had glowing reviews, but they seem to have disappeared...

anyone know what happend to them ???

Moloch · February 11, 2008, 10:02 AM

I would love to get one too, but as far as I know they are more or less discontinued by Ruger. Last year I've heard that they made a small number of 10/22 magnums after a very long waiting peroid and now they dont not build them anymore. They just built them from time to time in a very small number.:barf:

As getting Ruger firemarms wouldnt be hard enough in Europe Ruger cant build their firearms continuously, its more like an on-off job.

ISC · February 11, 2008, 10:33 AM

they would have sold alot more of them if they hadn't charged so much for them. It isn't enough different from a standard 10/22 to justify charging twice the cost.

Moloch · February 11, 2008, 10:41 AM

Well it is, if people show only half interest in .22wmr compared to the .22lr the price is justified.

bobn · February 11, 2008, 11:15 AM

i had one and it functioned fine. i only dislike was the difficulty in single shot loading. all the ruger rotary guns seem to have this difficulty. while i respect others opinion of cost versus value, unfortunately guns is not the hobby for that situation, lol. bobn

Ledbetter · February 11, 2008, 02:07 PM

The biggest differences are that the receiver is steel, not aluminum, the receiver is larger than the 10/22 in .22 LR, and the bolt is a lot heavier. More steel, harder to machine.

I think they couldn't sell enough of them to make money at it.

Ultima-Ratio · February 11, 2008, 03:02 PM

Checkout Magnum Research, they make a new and improved version of the 10-22 Magnum

Moloch · February 11, 2008, 04:48 PM

Yeah, for 719 bucks!

http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand...tCode=MLR22WMH

hoytinak · February 11, 2008, 04:57 PM

Not sure if these guys still has these for sale:
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=279159
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...?do=ad&id=4032

Alot of people were buying up the .22 Mag 10/22's and converting them to the .17hmr.

ISC · February 11, 2008, 05:16 PM

I would have boughtr one if they weren't so expensive, I looked at them, but they were over $400 and the gunshops never had them in stock. They said they couldn't get them. If ruger had come out with hi cap mags they would have sold alot more of them even at that price.

Ruyger doesn't listen to the customers, they just do what they want and are surpriseed when we won't buy their crap.

Magnum Wheel Man · February 11, 2008, 05:43 PM

there are high cap magazine available for the magnum rotary clips though...

my personal problem with them, I I'm a stainless kinda guy, as is my buddy thats looking for one... I'd also like a heavy barrel on the magnum, though I understand you can buy them... ( I'm not sure if Ruger ever offered a 10-22 Magnum in stainless ), as all I've seen have been the plain wood stock / blued carbines...

the cost of the M.R. & Volk models while really nice units, are more than either of us would spend for a rim fire...

anyone know if high cap CZ mags & or lami or composite stocks are available for CZ's little 22 Mag auto ??? I have one with really nice wood, that would be a great Appleseed training gun, if it had more ugly or durable furnature & at least a 10 round mag ???

steveno · February 11, 2008, 06:05 PM

when I worked at Cabela's we sent a number them of back to the factory for extraction problems. we got them back and they were sold as factory repairs. I assumed they worked after that but don't know for sure

Lawyer Daggit · February 11, 2008, 07:08 PM

AMT produced a 10/22 clone in 22 magnum a number of years ago as well.

You may be able to track one down second hand. They were stainless steel with plastic stocks so they were pretty indestructable.

Lawyer Daggit · February 11, 2008, 07:10 PM

A german company was producing a very nice little copy of the M1 carbine in 22 magnum in the 80's and 90's as well.

I think people balked at the expense of operating a semi auto 22 magnum rimfire.

tyrajam · February 11, 2008, 07:15 PM

Just get yourself a Rem 597 in 22 mag, just as light and handy as the 10/22, way cheaper, and I will ALWAYS take a remington over a Ruger.

Moloch · February 11, 2008, 07:39 PM

I didnt know that Remington still makes the 597 in .22wmr. I've heard many bad reports of case failures and extraction failures with the .22wmr Remmi so that always prevented me from taking a closer look.

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A german company was producing a very nice little copy of the M1 carbine in 22 magnum in the 80's and 90's as well.

You're talking about the Erma M1, its only in .22lr, they were never chambered in anything else than the Lr.

Terrierman · February 11, 2008, 07:47 PM

I had one a few years back, not long after they came out. I had problems with failure to fire. Sent it back to Ruger, they sent it back after some time in the shop. It wasn't fixed, so I sent it back again. After a bit of a wait, I called them and they told me they could not find the problem. They GAVE me the Ruger of my choice. I wanted a nice .22 WMR, so chose an All Weather 77/22 with iron sights. It is now my most favoritest rifle and gets carried and used more than the rest of my rifles combined.

The .22 WMR 10-22 is a completely different rifle than the .22LR 10-22. Practically zero parts interchangability. Well, maybe the butt plate or the iron sights, but not much else.

Blue Duck · February 11, 2008, 09:14 PM

They had reliability problems, I knew about it at the time, so I never tried one, but I heard about several that gave problems, and I think that is why they quit offering them.

hksigwalther · February 12, 2008, 10:05 PM

The 10/22M was discontinued some time late '04/early '05. Up until the end, they were usually going for $300-$350. Towards the end of it's cycle, the .17 HMR came out and people (including me) were converting them to that caliber and getting exceptional accuracy (along with other .17 HMR platforms).

When the end came, people, particularly ones interested in converting them, were snapping them up. As a result, the cost of the 10/22M has skyrocketed and is now in the $600-$800 range for NIB. (And higher from folks really trying to cash in on the demand. Up to $1000 at times.) On rare occassions, you may find one at a shop or a show. Hopefully, the seller will not know about the gun's demand.

The demise of the gun was said to be lack of sales and/or poor functioning that could not be resolved. The guns were known to FTE (and sometimes FTF). This I've experienced myself in the 10/22Ms I have. Simple solution for me was to replace the extractor with a Volquartsen unit. Other fixes include smoothing the action at various areas, rounding the rear bottom of the bolt, etc.

If you ever find and buy a 10/22M, do not send it back to Ruger for any reason. They will not fix it and will keep it. They will offer you a coice of one of their other rimfire offerings in its place.

tulsamal · February 13, 2008, 09:56 AM

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The 10/22M was discontinued some time late '04/early '05. Up until the end, they were usually going for $300-$350. Towards the end of it's cycle, the .17 HMR came out and people (including me) were converting them to that caliber and getting exceptional accuracy (along with other .17 HMR platforms).

Exactly. When the word got out that you could do a barrel swap on a 10/22 Magnum and have a 17 HMR 10/22, they just about disappeared from the auction sites. If one showed up, it went fast and for a lot of money.

That doesn't explain why Ruger didn't keep making them though.... People are obviously willing to pay higher levels for them.

Gregg

CraigC · February 13, 2008, 11:03 AM

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Ruger doesn't listen to the customers, they just do what they want and are surpriseed when we won't buy their crap.

Have you been living under a rock for the last five or six years??? Ruger has introduced several new and improved models customers have been asking for for years. Ruger has earned a profit every year of its existence. They must be doing something right. Some people you just can't satisfy.

New Vaquero
Mid-frame Blackhawk (50th anniversary .357 Blackhawk)
A beautiful 50th anniversary .44 Blackhawk
Four inch Redhawks
Five-shot Super Redhawk .480's
Charger 10/22 pistol
...and probably several more I'm forgetting.

If you understood the difficulty in designing and producing a .22Mag (rifle or pistol) autoloader you would see the value in the 10/22Magnum. Ever wonder why so few have been produced and fewer still have been a commercial success? Problems arise when .22LR shooters just expect everything about the .22Mag to be as economical as the the .22LR. The reality is that they are two almost completely different animals.

February 11, 2008, 09:59 AM	#1
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	10/22 Magnum... where did it go ??? so... one of my buds thats been thinking about doing Appleseed training with me this summer, started looking for a 10 / 22 Magnum for the shoot, & some light varmenting... any info I found on them always had glowing reviews, but they seem to have disappeared... anyone know what happend to them ??? __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

February 11, 2008, 02:07 PM	#6
Ledbetter Senior Member Join Date: February 23, 2000 Location: California USA Posts: 4,533	The biggest differences are that the receiver is steel, not aluminum, the receiver is larger than the 10/22 in .22 LR, and the bolt is a lot heavier. More steel, harder to machine. I think they couldn't sell enough of them to make money at it. __________________ Regards, Ledbetter from thefiringline TFL #4573 NRA for Life Winchester Canyon Gun Club for Life

February 11, 2008, 03:02 PM	#7
Ultima-Ratio Junior member Join Date: May 18, 2004 Location: Anchorage Alaska Posts: 227	Another 10-22- Checkout Magnum Research, they make a new and improved version of the 10-22 Magnum

February 11, 2008, 05:43 PM	#11
Magnum Wheel Man Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2006 Location: Southern Minnesota Posts: 9,333	there are high cap magazine available for the magnum rotary clips though... my personal problem with them, I I'm a stainless kinda guy, as is my buddy thats looking for one... I'd also like a heavy barrel on the magnum, though I understand you can buy them... ( I'm not sure if Ruger ever offered a 10-22 Magnum in stainless ), as all I've seen have been the plain wood stock / blued carbines... the cost of the M.R. & Volk models while really nice units, are more than either of us would spend for a rim fire... anyone know if high cap CZ mags & or lami or composite stocks are available for CZ's little 22 Mag auto ??? I have one with really nice wood, that would be a great Appleseed training gun, if it had more ugly or durable furnature & at least a 10 round mag ??? __________________ In life you either make dust or eat dust...

February 12, 2008, 10:05 PM	#19
hksigwalther Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 1998 Location: NE OH, USA Posts: 3,198	The 10/22M was discontinued some time late '04/early '05. Up until the end, they were usually going for $300-$350. Towards the end of it's cycle, the .17 HMR came out and people (including me) were converting them to that caliber and getting exceptional accuracy (along with other .17 HMR platforms). When the end came, people, particularly ones interested in converting them, were snapping them up. As a result, the cost of the 10/22M has skyrocketed and is now in the $600-$800 range for NIB. (And higher from folks really trying to cash in on the demand. Up to $1000 at times.) On rare occassions, you may find one at a shop or a show. Hopefully, the seller will not know about the gun's demand. The demise of the gun was said to be lack of sales and/or poor functioning that could not be resolved. The guns were known to FTE (and sometimes FTF). This I've experienced myself in the 10/22Ms I have. Simple solution for me was to replace the extractor with a Volquartsen unit. Other fixes include smoothing the action at various areas, rounding the rear bottom of the bolt, etc. If you ever find and buy a 10/22M, do not send it back to Ruger for any reason. They will not fix it and will keep it. They will offer you a coice of one of their other rimfire offerings in its place. __________________ - Ron V.

February 11, 2008, 10:02 AM	#2
Moloch Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2005 Posts: 1,419	I would love to get one too, but as far as I know they are more or less discontinued by Ruger. Last year I've heard that they made a small number of 10/22 magnums after a very long waiting peroid and now they dont not build them anymore. They just built them from time to time in a very small number.:barf: As getting Ruger firemarms wouldnt be hard enough in Europe Ruger cant build their firearms continuously, its more like an on-off job.

February 11, 2008, 10:33 AM	#3
ISC Junior member Join Date: August 5, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,982	they would have sold alot more of them if they hadn't charged so much for them. It isn't enough different from a standard 10/22 to justify charging twice the cost.

February 11, 2008, 10:41 AM	#4
Moloch Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2005 Posts: 1,419	Well it is, if people show only half interest in .22wmr compared to the .22lr the price is justified.

February 11, 2008, 11:15 AM	#5
bobn Senior Member Join Date: December 30, 2006 Location: midwest Posts: 1,105	i had one and it functioned fine. i only dislike was the difficulty in single shot loading. all the ruger rotary guns seem to have this difficulty. while i respect others opinion of cost versus value, unfortunately guns is not the hobby for that situation, lol. bobn

February 11, 2008, 04:48 PM	#8
Moloch Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2005 Posts: 1,419	Yeah, for 719 bucks! http://www.magnumresearch.com/Expand...tCode=MLR22WMH

February 11, 2008, 04:57 PM	#9
hoytinak Senior Member Join Date: July 5, 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 5,721	Not sure if these guys still has these for sale: http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/...d.php?t=279159 http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...?do=ad&id=4032 Alot of people were buying up the .22 Mag 10/22's and converting them to the .17hmr.

February 11, 2008, 05:16 PM	#10
ISC Junior member Join Date: August 5, 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 1,982	I would have boughtr one if they weren't so expensive, I looked at them, but they were over $400 and the gunshops never had them in stock. They said they couldn't get them. If ruger had come out with hi cap mags they would have sold alot more of them even at that price. Ruyger doesn't listen to the customers, they just do what they want and are surpriseed when we won't buy their crap.

February 11, 2008, 06:05 PM	#12
steveno Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2004 Location: Minden , Nebraska Posts: 1,407	when I worked at Cabela's we sent a number them of back to the factory for extraction problems. we got them back and they were sold as factory repairs. I assumed they worked after that but don't know for sure

February 11, 2008, 07:08 PM	#13
Lawyer Daggit Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Posts: 1,181	AMT produced a 10/22 clone in 22 magnum a number of years ago as well. You may be able to track one down second hand. They were stainless steel with plastic stocks so they were pretty indestructable.

February 11, 2008, 07:10 PM	#14
Lawyer Daggit Senior Member Join Date: December 5, 2004 Posts: 1,181	A german company was producing a very nice little copy of the M1 carbine in 22 magnum in the 80's and 90's as well. I think people balked at the expense of operating a semi auto 22 magnum rimfire.

February 11, 2008, 07:15 PM	#15
tyrajam Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2007 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 467	Just get yourself a Rem 597 in 22 mag, just as light and handy as the 10/22, way cheaper, and I will ALWAYS take a remington over a Ruger.

February 11, 2008, 07:47 PM	#17
Terrierman Member Join Date: October 1, 2005 Posts: 65	I had one a few years back, not long after they came out. I had problems with failure to fire. Sent it back to Ruger, they sent it back after some time in the shop. It wasn't fixed, so I sent it back again. After a bit of a wait, I called them and they told me they could not find the problem. They GAVE me the Ruger of my choice. I wanted a nice .22 WMR, so chose an All Weather 77/22 with iron sights. It is now my most favoritest rifle and gets carried and used more than the rest of my rifles combined. The .22 WMR 10-22 is a completely different rifle than the .22LR 10-22. Practically zero parts interchangability. Well, maybe the butt plate or the iron sights, but not much else.

February 11, 2008, 09:14 PM	#18
Blue Duck Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2006 Posts: 402	They had reliability problems, I knew about it at the time, so I never tried one, but I heard about several that gave problems, and I think that is why they quit offering them.