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Nine rounds of .380 ACP | 75 | 59.52% | |
five rounds of .38 Special | 51 | 40.48% | |
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September 23, 2015, 07:39 PM | #126 |
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Haha!!! Yep |
September 25, 2015, 09:11 AM | #127 | |
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Funny but I posted a question on TFL about what to do if you found yourself in the Reginald Denny position of traveling through an unscheduled riot during the Ferguson rioting days and was told by the experts that I shouldn't go anywhere that a riot might happen, and the thread was closed and locked as a "Zombie thread" so maybe thats how this one will end. |
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September 25, 2015, 09:24 AM | #128 |
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The original question here was acceptable. The comment about the riot involving several thousand people was way off base. |
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September 25, 2015, 01:31 PM | #130 | ||
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And the comparative likelihoods here and there are not relevent to the discussion at hand. |
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September 25, 2015, 01:47 PM | #131 |
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It does enter into my thought process, though.
I live on the west side of Cleveland and work on the east side...my wife works right in the central city. When we were having our issues, I asked my wife what her plan was in case of riot. Her answer was "call you".
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September 25, 2015, 05:12 PM | #133 |
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Has anyone thought that in the case of an average shooter, the first two rounds out of the Smith, shot double action, are much more likely to find their mark than the first two shot, double/single out of the Bersa? If this indeed, can be factored in, then the effective total round capacity will change a little. After all, isn't this consistent trigger action one of the biggest appeals of the striker fired semi autos?
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September 25, 2015, 05:23 PM | #134 | |
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In the case of evaluating concealed carry for self defense by someone other than a sworn officer, the following things come to mind, at least to me:
The second of those points means that we can reasonably decide against carrying handcuffs and Tasers. It also tells us that we can probably decide against carrying a 19+1 firearm and several extra magazines of the kind that we might find in the equipment list of an LEO. That has been the basis for my thinking here all along. We select what it would reasonably take to defend against the most plausible of the extremely unlikely situations, which would be an unexpected and violent criminal attack by one, two, or three assailants. The likelihood of occurrence can vary a great deal. If it is really high in some locale or other, or at night, the first mitigation approach is to stay out. The next decision is to decide whether and/or when to arm oneself. I generally opt to do so wherever I can. That takes us to whether the nature of the possible threat might vary enough to influence what to carry. Yes, things could really get tough in some areas, but if we are limiting ourselves to concealed handguns, I don't see how one would vary the response very much unless we really think we could prepare for a riot. And as we have discussed, the fact that a violent criminal attack might well be very unlikely indeed would not give us any reason to expect that the nature of the attack would be materially different. The difference would boil down to whether to carry not in the first place. That's very basic risk management. I frequent s small high end grocery with a small parking lot in good neighborhood that is accessible only by congested two lane roads. No one in his right mind would start anything there. Or would they? I blundered in to a robbery about to happen there once, and I caused the perps to think twice. What I had with me was an Airweight Centennial, and after I had availed myself of some throning on how to get out of scrapes like that on, I decided that that was not the best choice--in that neighborhood or anywhere else--except for backup. The nature of the encounter would not a have differed materially, only the likelihood of occurrence. |
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September 25, 2015, 05:28 PM | #136 |
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Except a S&W revolver is a step up from the typical Bersa.
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September 27, 2015, 11:25 AM | #137 |
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.38 Special kills and wounds out of proportion to its size and velocity, due to the wide nose (hollowpoint or meplat as the case may be), and ability to be semi-jacketed.
Having said that, it's still a very close call. Capacity is also important in my view. I voted .38 special, but I'm now doubting my vote. |
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