Applying for my Georgia WCL - Asked to come to court? - Page 3

brickeyee · December 5, 2011, 03:10 PM

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Unfortunately, many in the Judicial branch have performed legislative duties by interpreting laws, Bill of Rights, Amendments, Constitution in a manner that is not in context with why they were drafted and passed.

Good thinking!

No 1st amendment protections for the internet.

It could never been even imagined by the writers of the first amendment, so it cannot apply.

The same with radio and TV.
There is no way free speech provisions of any type can apply to either.

Or the telephone.

Damn those courts.

kilimanjaro · December 5, 2011, 11:36 PM

Context be damned, words have meaning.

Discern · December 15, 2011, 10:46 PM

Below is a video link of an interview with Dr. Herb Titus who is well versed in law and the U.S. Constitution. Notice again why the 14th Amendment was drafted, ratified and passed. The phrase 'and subject to the jurisdiction there of' in the 14th Amendment is very important. You cannot take the phase 'All persons' or 'any person' by itself. When the U.S. Constitution was written. the "Law of Nations" was a well known legal writing which covered Natural Born Citizen. Context and the original intent of the authors are very important. Taking the 1st Amendment into context, radio and the Internet would fall under the protection of the 1st Amendment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqeV0ZlZ1Cw

trevor002 · December 17, 2011, 01:01 AM

Hi *,

I am writing to update this thread with good news. I had my hearing this morning, and it went well. The judge wanted to verify my legal status and examine my visa documentation. Once done, I was told by him to expect my Georgia WCL by mail within a week.

One thing that I was unaware of is that there is a new WCL card as of January 2nd 2012. Unfortunately it is only for applications received after that date. The new card is similar in structure to a driver's license (i.e. it has a picture, etc.)

Regardless, I am thankful that Georgia is respectful of her legal immigrants. I look forward to many more years in this beautiful state and country.

Thanks for the support y'all.

divil · December 17, 2011, 01:10 AM

This is the news I was hoping for!

Happy days.

I wish every state was as awesome as Georgia in this regard!

Congratulations.

egor20 · December 17, 2011, 01:13 AM

Congratulations trevor002.

EDIT: from my wife

Welcome trevor002, I am a former Brit, I know how much it means to you. to do this.

BarryLee · December 17, 2011, 01:38 AM

Good news

blume357 · December 17, 2011, 07:17 AM

thanks for the update.... congratulations.

hermannr · December 17, 2011, 02:29 PM

Congratulations Trevor. Very happy to hear all went well for you. I was sure it would.

C0untZer0 · December 17, 2011, 02:45 PM

I'm glad that it went well.

I personally think Illinois has a gaping hole in their FOID system when it comes to illegal immigrants, and neither party has an interest in closing it. The democrats in northern Illinois are the staunch anti-gunners, but they don't want to anger the hispanic vote and requiring people show up in court - like Georgia asked you to do, or having an additional process to verify citizen status, is going to mainly anger hispanics because in Illinois, hispanics comprise the largest part of immigrants. The republicans aren't interested in changing the FOID system to verify that someone is a citizen because they think the FOID system should be done away with anyway.

Our FOID cards are linked to our Secretary of State / DOMV somewhat in that the photo that they use is the same photo the state has on file for your driver's license. Like, i didn't go in to take a photo for my FOID. i just applied for the FOID and when it showed up - it had my driver's license photo on there.

Webleymkv · December 18, 2011, 01:46 PM

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Our FOID cards are linked to our Secretary of State / DOMV somewhat in that the photo that they use is the same photo the state has on file for your driver's license. Like, i didn't go in to take a photo for my FOID. i just applied for the FOID and when it showed up - it had my driver's license photo on there.

When did that change? When I lived in IL (moved away in June of 2002), I distinctly remember my dad having to submit a photograph of himself along with his FOID renewal (never went through it myself because I was 15 when we moved away).

C0untZer0 · December 19, 2011, 01:24 AM

I'm not exactly sure when it changed, I think in 2004 maybe?

The last FOID I had, the picture I sent in was the picture that ended up on the FOID. When I sent in my renewal in April of this year, I did have to send a passport photo, but the photo I sent was not the photo that appears on my FOID, the photo on my FOID is my driver's license photo.

December 17, 2011, 01:13 AM	#56
egor20 Senior Member Join Date: November 14, 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,824	trevor002 Congratulations trevor002. EDIT: from my wife Welcome trevor002, I am a former Brit, I know how much it means to you. to do this. __________________ Chief stall mucker and grain chef Country don't mean dumb. Steven King. The Stand

December 17, 2011, 01:38 AM	#57
BarryLee Senior Member Join Date: July 29, 2010 Location: The ATL (OTP) Posts: 3,946	Good news __________________ A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. - Milton Friedman

December 5, 2011, 11:36 PM	#52
kilimanjaro Senior Member Join Date: November 23, 2009 Posts: 3,963	Context be damned, words have meaning.

December 15, 2011, 10:46 PM	#53
Discern Senior Member Join Date: July 30, 2011 Posts: 471	Below is a video link of an interview with Dr. Herb Titus who is well versed in law and the U.S. Constitution. Notice again why the 14th Amendment was drafted, ratified and passed. The phrase 'and subject to the jurisdiction there of' in the 14th Amendment is very important. You cannot take the phase 'All persons' or 'any person' by itself. When the U.S. Constitution was written. the "Law of Nations" was a well known legal writing which covered Natural Born Citizen. Context and the original intent of the authors are very important. Taking the 1st Amendment into context, radio and the Internet would fall under the protection of the 1st Amendment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqeV0ZlZ1Cw

December 17, 2011, 01:01 AM	#54
trevor002 Junior Member Join Date: April 25, 2010 Posts: 7	Hi *, I am writing to update this thread with good news. I had my hearing this morning, and it went well. The judge wanted to verify my legal status and examine my visa documentation. Once done, I was told by him to expect my Georgia WCL by mail within a week. One thing that I was unaware of is that there is a new WCL card as of January 2nd 2012. Unfortunately it is only for applications received after that date. The new card is similar in structure to a driver's license (i.e. it has a picture, etc.) Regardless, I am thankful that Georgia is respectful of her legal immigrants. I look forward to many more years in this beautiful state and country. Thanks for the support y'all.

December 17, 2011, 01:10 AM	#55
divil Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2009 Posts: 506	This is the news I was hoping for! Happy days. I wish every state was as awesome as Georgia in this regard! Congratulations.

December 17, 2011, 07:17 AM	#58
blume357 Senior Member Join Date: August 2, 2005 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 3,943	thanks for the update.... congratulations.

December 17, 2011, 02:29 PM	#59
hermannr Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2011 Posts: 730	Congratulations Trevor. Very happy to hear all went well for you. I was sure it would.

December 17, 2011, 02:45 PM	#60
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	I'm glad that it went well. I personally think Illinois has a gaping hole in their FOID system when it comes to illegal immigrants, and neither party has an interest in closing it. The democrats in northern Illinois are the staunch anti-gunners, but they don't want to anger the hispanic vote and requiring people show up in court - like Georgia asked you to do, or having an additional process to verify citizen status, is going to mainly anger hispanics because in Illinois, hispanics comprise the largest part of immigrants. The republicans aren't interested in changing the FOID system to verify that someone is a citizen because they think the FOID system should be done away with anyway. Our FOID cards are linked to our Secretary of State / DOMV somewhat in that the photo that they use is the same photo the state has on file for your driver's license. Like, i didn't go in to take a photo for my FOID. i just applied for the FOID and when it showed up - it had my driver's license photo on there.

December 19, 2011, 01:24 AM	#62
C0untZer0 Junior member Join Date: April 21, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,555	I'm not exactly sure when it changed, I think in 2004 maybe? The last FOID I had, the picture I sent in was the picture that ended up on the FOID. When I sent in my renewal in April of this year, I did have to send a passport photo, but the photo I sent was not the photo that appears on my FOID, the photo on my FOID is my driver's license photo.