PS2466 - Constitusional Arms Law Senate Proyect Law

Fleabag · February 27, 2012, 02:08 PM

Good day. The Commonwealth of Puerto Rico has in effect the most strict gun law of any state and or it's territories. Several aspects of the gun law are being questioned after the federal cases of Heller and it's pro genesis. A new law project (PS2466) has recently been presented in the Commonwealth's Senate which is creating an uproar and quickly creating trenches in the political arena within all political parties. Uphill battle since strict gun laws and regulations have been a historical reality for over 200 years. Reminds me of the elephants that once trained with chains, they don't realize they have no restrains.

armoredman · February 27, 2012, 02:12 PM

Good luck to PR.

hermannr · February 27, 2012, 11:44 PM

It is my understanding that a few months ago the PR Supreme Court basically told the authorities they "Must Issue" to any applicant, unless the applicant is a prohibited person (ie felon) They took Heller as we would.

This political activity is probably in responce to that ruling. Now would be the time to apply for a pistol permit for "any lawful purpose" in PR before the politico's screw things up for you again.

SHNOMIDO · February 28, 2012, 12:30 AM

Puerto Rico is kind of my paradise. I hope they straighten this out in the next couple years for vacation and get it straightened out Arizona style by the time I retire.

Good news. If Puerto Rico can do it IL can do it.

Fleabag · February 29, 2012, 03:08 PM

The proposed peace of legislation would leave the police department outside any of the proceedings in acquiring a license and a CC permit. Under the current law, one has to apply for a permit to own a handgun and a target license. It's stated that way because under the prior law you could request one of three different permits: home protection, target practice and businessman, but that's beside the point, being one license covers both permits under the current law. You have to become a member of a firing range of your choosing, and must be a member of the Federation, like it or not. All in all, between fees, legal expenses and membership requirements, one is looking @ a little over $700.00 dollars to get a license. Before you are issued your permit you are subjected to an investigation of your application and your witnesses and neighbors are interviewed. This is supposed to happen in 3 months but usually takes around five or six months, and if you complain, your paperwork will most likely be misplaced. After you have your gun permit, you have to take a gun handling course, which is a complete joke. After you have your gun, CC permit is shall issue by a judge with a hearing, which means you need legal representation, and you have to convince the judge that you have a legitimate reason for requesting your CC permit, and hope the prosecutor has no objections too. And this is like another $500 dollars. There is also a State gun registry worked by the police.

New legislation requires a federal background check (instead of the state background check), $25 dollars fee with the application to be processed by the DMV. CC is automatic with the license. A new rigurous gun handling course is required.

There was a case brought up to the Supreme Court (State) where a man was charged for carrying a weapon without the CC, although the weapon was legal and the accused had a gun permit but no CC permit. Under the current law, transportation of a weapon without a CC has to be unloaded, in a trunk or not near the driver, to and from the house and gun range. Can't deviate, and if you do and are caught is a felony. The DA struck a plea with a slap in the hand and avoided the case to be reviewed. I say, under Heller, it must be the easiest gun law to be struck down.

February 27, 2012, 02:08 PM	#1
Fleabag Member Join Date: November 1, 2011 Posts: 70	PS2466 - Constitusional Arms Law Senate Proyect Law Good day. The Commonwealth of Puerto Rico has in effect the most strict gun law of any state and or it's territories. Several aspects of the gun law are being questioned after the federal cases of Heller and it's pro genesis. A new law project (PS2466) has recently been presented in the Commonwealth's Senate which is creating an uproar and quickly creating trenches in the political arena within all political parties. Uphill battle since strict gun laws and regulations have been a historical reality for over 200 years. Reminds me of the elephants that once trained with chains, they don't realize they have no restrains.

February 27, 2012, 02:12 PM	#2
armoredman Senior Member Join Date: May 22, 2007 Location: Arizona Posts: 5,297	Good luck to PR.

February 27, 2012, 11:44 PM	#3
hermannr Senior Member Join Date: March 24, 2011 Posts: 730	It is my understanding that a few months ago the PR Supreme Court basically told the authorities they "Must Issue" to any applicant, unless the applicant is a prohibited person (ie felon) They took Heller as we would. This political activity is probably in responce to that ruling. Now would be the time to apply for a pistol permit for "any lawful purpose" in PR before the politico's screw things up for you again.

February 28, 2012, 12:30 AM	#4
SHNOMIDO Senior Member Join Date: June 23, 2011 Location: Illinois Posts: 423	Puerto Rico is kind of my paradise. I hope they straighten this out in the next couple years for vacation and get it straightened out Arizona style by the time I retire. Good news. If Puerto Rico can do it IL can do it.

February 29, 2012, 03:08 PM	#5
Fleabag Member Join Date: November 1, 2011 Posts: 70	The proposed peace of legislation would leave the police department outside any of the proceedings in acquiring a license and a CC permit. Under the current law, one has to apply for a permit to own a handgun and a target license. It's stated that way because under the prior law you could request one of three different permits: home protection, target practice and businessman, but that's beside the point, being one license covers both permits under the current law. You have to become a member of a firing range of your choosing, and must be a member of the Federation, like it or not. All in all, between fees, legal expenses and membership requirements, one is looking @ a little over $700.00 dollars to get a license. Before you are issued your permit you are subjected to an investigation of your application and your witnesses and neighbors are interviewed. This is supposed to happen in 3 months but usually takes around five or six months, and if you complain, your paperwork will most likely be misplaced. After you have your gun permit, you have to take a gun handling course, which is a complete joke. After you have your gun, CC permit is shall issue by a judge with a hearing, which means you need legal representation, and you have to convince the judge that you have a legitimate reason for requesting your CC permit, and hope the prosecutor has no objections too. And this is like another $500 dollars. There is also a State gun registry worked by the police. New legislation requires a federal background check (instead of the state background check), $25 dollars fee with the application to be processed by the DMV. CC is automatic with the license. A new rigurous gun handling course is required. There was a case brought up to the Supreme Court (State) where a man was charged for carrying a weapon without the CC, although the weapon was legal and the accused had a gun permit but no CC permit. Under the current law, transportation of a weapon without a CC has to be unloaded, in a trunk or not near the driver, to and from the house and gun range. Can't deviate, and if you do and are caught is a felony. The DA struck a plea with a slap in the hand and avoided the case to be reviewed. I say, under Heller, it must be the easiest gun law to be struck down.