S&W Military & Police 9mm

gdeal · May 24, 2009, 07:29 PM

Is the Smith & Wesson M&P just another way to say their version of the Glock? I thought the Military used the Barretta 92 Type F. And how many police departments actually use the S&W M&P? On that note, aren't the Glock, Springfield XD and S&W M&P pretty much all the same?

LoneStarWings · May 24, 2009, 08:39 PM

A lot of police departments do use the m&p, about 250 of them in the US. Atlanta, Charlotte, Austin, Syracuse, and many various state agencies.

Yes, the glock, m&p, and xd are all very similair lines, but there are differences. I like the m&p because it's US made and seems to be the best of the 3 ergonomically.

Uncle Malice · May 24, 2009, 09:29 PM

I think that's a far over-simplification of the weapon... but yes, the 3 are what most would consider to be the 'big 3' polymer, law enforcement type side arms.

I have had Glocks. I currently have XD and M&P. The Glock is probably the most simple design out of the three. Less parts. Less things to go wrong(supposedly). While I never had any kind of malfunction with my Glocks at all, they are rather ergonomically challenged. People complain about the grip angle... that wasn't my issue at all... I like it a lot. It's just that it feels like i'm holding on to a giant Lego block. It's all personal preference though. My best friend has a Glock 22 that he says fits his hand like a glove. He tried everything before he bought it, too. He tested out M&P, XD, Sig, HK, Beretta, and more. With that said, the man is 6'4" with enormous gorilla hands.

Out of all of my guns, I LOVE the grip on the XD(M) 9mm. The XD is nice, but the XD(M) just cleans up and polishes an already well done design. The M&P is quite nice ergonomically as well. It's more of an oval shaped grip that fits quite nicely. I'm also a fan of how low the slide/barrel sit on M&P vs. the XD.

The design on the M&P 9c is absolutely fantastic. It conceals great. Even though it has a 3.5" barrel, it's still smaller overall than my XD-9SC.

jman841 · May 24, 2009, 09:38 PM

Just curious, are there any agencies that use the XD as thier service weapon? i know glocks, and M&P's are quite common.

gglass · May 25, 2009, 05:56 PM

The M&P History:
The Smith & Wesson M&P (Military & Police) has always been a highly respected revolver from its introduction to today. Introduced in 1899, it became the standard by which every other medium-frame double-action revolver would be judged--as well as serving as the launching platform for one of the most influential handgun cartridges in history: the .38 S&W Special. The popularity of the M&P (aka Model 10) revolver grew so quickly that it was the most widely used police revolver in the free world.

The M&P line grew into a new brand of semi-auto handguns in 2006, and has become the biggest product launch in S&W's history. The company has been producing semi-auto handguns for more than 100 years, but it was not until 2006 that Smith & Wesson would roll out a semi-auto worthy of the M&P logo. Before embarking on the process of building a new pistol, S&W personnel conducted extensive interviews of law enforcement and military agencies, competitive shooters, and civilian gun owners. The information enabled engineers to include a number of features these varied groups thought were desirable. If you are going to build the finest modern tactical pistol, it is a good idea to get input of those who will use it.

The NEW M&P semi-auto really is a worthy heir to the brand's name and reputation... With 107 years on the making, the M&P is what I would call perfection.

M&P40 · May 25, 2009, 06:26 PM

I carry an M&P 40 and also shoot IDPA with it. Where as my dad carries the XDm 9mm. We never did agree on much!

Only S&W and Me · May 25, 2009, 06:35 PM

I love my .40c!

ritepath · May 25, 2009, 08:07 PM

I love my 9c....

I carry it everywhere...even mowing the grass. I'm trying to figure out how to wear it in the pool this summer.

M&P-pistol.com for everything M&P

odsixer · May 25, 2009, 11:43 PM

+1 m&p

WESHOOT2 · May 26, 2009, 08:13 AM

S&W uses a steel 'chassis' to maintain precise fire control dimensions; numerous choices offer adjustable backstraps; some allow for no trigger activation for disassembly; some offer manual safeties, or ambidextreous magazine or slide releases; bore axis differences....

And one must include Taurus and Ruger and FN and Beretta and HK and whomever-I've-missed in this question.

They're all good (except the Taurus brand; here we go

).

May 24, 2009, 07:29 PM	#1
gdeal Senior Member Join Date: October 30, 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 748	S&W Military & Police 9mm Is the Smith & Wesson M&P just another way to say their version of the Glock? I thought the Military used the Barretta 92 Type F. And how many police departments actually use the S&W M&P? On that note, aren't the Glock, Springfield XD and S&W M&P pretty much all the same?

May 24, 2009, 09:29 PM	#3
Uncle Malice Senior Member Join Date: May 11, 2009 Location: Phoenix Posts: 4,580	I think that's a far over-simplification of the weapon... but yes, the 3 are what most would consider to be the 'big 3' polymer, law enforcement type side arms. I have had Glocks. I currently have XD and M&P. The Glock is probably the most simple design out of the three. Less parts. Less things to go wrong(supposedly). While I never had any kind of malfunction with my Glocks at all, they are rather ergonomically challenged. People complain about the grip angle... that wasn't my issue at all... I like it a lot. It's just that it feels like i'm holding on to a giant Lego block. It's all personal preference though. My best friend has a Glock 22 that he says fits his hand like a glove. He tried everything before he bought it, too. He tested out M&P, XD, Sig, HK, Beretta, and more. With that said, the man is 6'4" with enormous gorilla hands. Out of all of my guns, I LOVE the grip on the XD(M) 9mm. The XD is nice, but the XD(M) just cleans up and polishes an already well done design. The M&P is quite nice ergonomically as well. It's more of an oval shaped grip that fits quite nicely. I'm also a fan of how low the slide/barrel sit on M&P vs. the XD. The design on the M&P 9c is absolutely fantastic. It conceals great. Even though it has a 3.5" barrel, it's still smaller overall than my XD-9SC. __________________ Handguns: 2x Glock 19.4 \| Glock 26.4 \| HK USP 9 \| HK P2000 \| HK VP9 SK \| HK P30 \| CZ Shadow 2 \| CZ P-10 C \| CZ P-07 \| CZP-01 \| S&W 360PD Rifles: DDM4 \| SGL 21 \| SAM7K \| Draco \| PSA PDW SBR \| ASA Side-Charger SBR \| CZ Scorpion K SBR \| Aero M4E1 9" 300blk SBR \| Angstadt Jack9 SBR \| Savage Mark II FV-SR Shotguns: Mossberg 590A1 20" SP \| Mossberg Shockwave

May 25, 2009, 05:56 PM	#5
gglass Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 638	The M&P History: The Smith & Wesson M&P (Military & Police) has always been a highly respected revolver from its introduction to today. Introduced in 1899, it became the standard by which every other medium-frame double-action revolver would be judged--as well as serving as the launching platform for one of the most influential handgun cartridges in history: the .38 S&W Special. The popularity of the M&P (aka Model 10) revolver grew so quickly that it was the most widely used police revolver in the free world. The M&P line grew into a new brand of semi-auto handguns in 2006, and has become the biggest product launch in S&W's history. The company has been producing semi-auto handguns for more than 100 years, but it was not until 2006 that Smith & Wesson would roll out a semi-auto worthy of the M&P logo. Before embarking on the process of building a new pistol, S&W personnel conducted extensive interviews of law enforcement and military agencies, competitive shooters, and civilian gun owners. The information enabled engineers to include a number of features these varied groups thought were desirable. If you are going to build the finest modern tactical pistol, it is a good idea to get input of those who will use it. The NEW M&P semi-auto really is a worthy heir to the brand's name and reputation... With 107 years on the making, the M&P is what I would call perfection. __________________ "...shall not be infringed." (Must be 18. Void where prohibited. Some restrictions may apply. Not available in all states).

May 26, 2009, 08:13 AM	#10
WESHOOT2 Senior Member Join Date: February 20, 1999 Location: home on the range; Vermont (Caspian country) Posts: 14,324	as much as all handguns are similar S&W uses a steel 'chassis' to maintain precise fire control dimensions; numerous choices offer adjustable backstraps; some allow for no trigger activation for disassembly; some offer manual safeties, or ambidextreous magazine or slide releases; bore axis differences.... And one must include Taurus and Ruger and FN and Beretta and HK and whomever-I've-missed in this question. They're all good (except the Taurus brand; here we go ). __________________ . "all my ammo is mostly retired factory ammo"

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May 24, 2009, 08:39 PM	#2
LoneStarWings Senior Member Join Date: January 15, 2009 Location: TX Posts: 213	A lot of police departments do use the m&p, about 250 of them in the US. Atlanta, Charlotte, Austin, Syracuse, and many various state agencies. Yes, the glock, m&p, and xd are all very similair lines, but there are differences. I like the m&p because it's US made and seems to be the best of the 3 ergonomically.

May 24, 2009, 09:38 PM	#4
jman841 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 2009 Posts: 715	Just curious, are there any agencies that use the XD as thier service weapon? i know glocks, and M&P's are quite common.

May 25, 2009, 06:26 PM	#6
M&P40 Member Join Date: May 25, 2009 Location: New Castle, PA Posts: 95	I carry an M&P 40 and also shoot IDPA with it. Where as my dad carries the XDm 9mm. We never did agree on much!

May 25, 2009, 06:35 PM	#7
Only S&W and Me Member Join Date: December 24, 2008 Location: Rochester Hills, Michigan Posts: 67	I love my .40c!

May 25, 2009, 08:07 PM	#8
ritepath Senior Member Join Date: February 22, 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,419	I love my 9c.... I carry it everywhere...even mowing the grass. I'm trying to figure out how to wear it in the pool this summer. M&P-pistol.com for everything M&P

May 25, 2009, 11:43 PM	#9
odsixer Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2007 Location: great white north Posts: 316	+1 m&p