Nagant revolver

TomADC · July 2, 2012, 12:20 PM

So I get an email from Bud's Gun Shop to buy a Nagant revolver to go with the MN rifle I bought from they a while back, so at $129 I figure why not!
I oder it and soon after I get another email my order had been cancelled as the Nagant even though its 50+ years old is not legal for sale in CA.
Go figure only here.
But Bud's you know I live in CA why send the email?

the rifleer · July 2, 2012, 02:41 PM

I have seen them for sale at gun shops here in CA, so it should be legal.

TomADC · July 2, 2012, 02:48 PM

I'm sure I've seen Turners sell them but Bud's won't send them here.
Not sure what the reason it, I'll ask.

Hardcase · July 2, 2012, 10:49 PM

Read the note on the California DOJ web site:

http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/

"Effective January 1, 2001, no handgun may be manufactured within California, imported into California for sale, lent, given, kept for sale, or offered/exposed for sale unless that handgun model has passed firing, safety, and drop tests and is certified for sale in California by the Department of Justice. Private party transfers, curio/relic handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns are exempt from this requirement." (emphasis is mine.)

TomADC · July 3, 2012, 09:43 AM

I'm going to send that back to Bud's I just got an answer saying it wasn't on the list so they can't sell it.
Thanks Tom

TomADC · July 3, 2012, 12:59 PM

Waste of time but now they have a note it can't be shipped to CA. Last email said this is a working revolver not a curios? No kidding.

johnwilliamson062 · July 3, 2012, 10:48 PM

I think you need a C&R to transfer a C&R gun into California. Just something I remember from when I had a C&R in Ohio. Not 100% sure.

Chuckusaret · July 3, 2012, 11:18 PM

I don't know about the Crazyfornia laws but I would give Aim Surplus a call. I just ordered one from them @ $109 plus shipping but I have a C&R license plus I live in the Gunshine state, Florida.

TomADC · July 4, 2012, 12:08 PM

I don't have a C&R license but would have to have it shipped to a FFL licensed dealer which I intended to do, mean time I found Classic Arms has the same package for $89 and will ship to a dealer here.

SteveBonning · July 4, 2012, 02:34 PM

Yea, skip Bud's. If they are not willing to learn the laws go elsewhere. However, I've seen many sites that state they cannot ship C & R handguns to C & R licensees in California (long guns are OK). So it may be another stupid California law......

TomADC · July 4, 2012, 08:55 PM

C&R handguns most go thru a FFL01 dealer, long guns can go to a C&R license holder.

Amsdorf · July 7, 2012, 08:47 PM

Bummer, guy.

The price you pay for living in the People's Republik of Kalifornia.

BerdanSS · July 31, 2012, 11:17 PM

EDIT.....LOL I just realized this was from '09

Oh well...still though M1895 for $99?

Aim Surplus has very nice ones for $99 (including CCCP tulas for and extra $11) with holster and cleaning kit. Not trying to undercut bud's or anything, I like them and all....but why pay $30 more? That's your transfer fee right there.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.as...agant+Revolver

Aim's CA policy: CALIFORNIA CUSTOMERS: All handgun shipments to "01" Dealer FFL only and modern handguns must be on the California approved list. No High Capacity magazine sales. No Assault Weapon sales. C&R Licensees may purchase only C&R Rifles that are at least 50 years old, even if the rifle appears on the Federal C&R list. All CA Dealers must give us their CL# before ordering. Check for other Local & State laws before ordering.

July 2, 2012, 12:20 PM	#1
TomADC Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Posts: 390	Nagant revolver So I get an email from Bud's Gun Shop to buy a Nagant revolver to go with the MN rifle I bought from they a while back, so at $129 I figure why not! I oder it and soon after I get another email my order had been cancelled as the Nagant even though its 50+ years old is not legal for sale in CA. Go figure only here. But Bud's you know I live in CA why send the email? __________________ US Navy Retired,NRA Life Member,SASS member, Time magazine's Person of the Year 2006!

July 2, 2012, 02:41 PM	#2
the rifleer Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2008 Location: Sunny California Posts: 1,209	I have seen them for sale at gun shops here in CA, so it should be legal. __________________ There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid people.

July 2, 2012, 02:48 PM	#3
TomADC Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Posts: 390	I'm sure I've seen Turners sell them but Bud's won't send them here. Not sure what the reason it, I'll ask. __________________ US Navy Retired,NRA Life Member,SASS member, Time magazine's Person of the Year 2006!

July 2, 2012, 10:49 PM	#4
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,881	Read the note on the California DOJ web site: http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/ "Effective January 1, 2001, no handgun may be manufactured within California, imported into California for sale, lent, given, kept for sale, or offered/exposed for sale unless that handgun model has passed firing, safety, and drop tests and is certified for sale in California by the Department of Justice. Private party transfers, curio/relic handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns are exempt from this requirement." (emphasis is mine.) __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

July 3, 2012, 09:43 AM	#5
TomADC Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Posts: 390	I'm going to send that back to Bud's I just got an answer saying it wasn't on the list so they can't sell it. Thanks Tom __________________ US Navy Retired,NRA Life Member,SASS member, Time magazine's Person of the Year 2006!

July 3, 2012, 12:59 PM	#6
TomADC Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Posts: 390	Waste of time but now they have a note it can't be shipped to CA. Last email said this is a working revolver not a curios? No kidding. __________________ US Navy Retired,NRA Life Member,SASS member, Time magazine's Person of the Year 2006!

July 3, 2012, 10:48 PM	#7
johnwilliamson062 Senior Member Join Date: May 16, 2008 Posts: 6,116	I think you need a C&R to transfer a C&R gun into California. Just something I remember from when I had a C&R in Ohio. Not 100% sure. __________________ $0 of an NRA membership goes to legislative action or court battles. Not a dime. Only money contributed to the NRA-ILA or NRA-PVF. Of course, you could just donate to the Second Amendment Foundation I was feeling pretty good, then I looked around and realized I am not swimming or on fire.

July 3, 2012, 11:18 PM	#8
Chuckusaret Junior member Join Date: December 5, 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 708	I don't know about the Crazyfornia laws but I would give Aim Surplus a call. I just ordered one from them @ $109 plus shipping but I have a C&R license plus I live in the Gunshine state, Florida.

July 4, 2012, 12:08 PM	#9
TomADC Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Posts: 390	I don't have a C&R license but would have to have it shipped to a FFL licensed dealer which I intended to do, mean time I found Classic Arms has the same package for $89 and will ship to a dealer here. __________________ US Navy Retired,NRA Life Member,SASS member, Time magazine's Person of the Year 2006!

July 4, 2012, 02:34 PM	#10
SteveBonning Member Join Date: January 2, 2011 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 85	Yea, skip Bud's. If they are not willing to learn the laws go elsewhere. However, I've seen many sites that state they cannot ship C & R handguns to C & R licensees in California (long guns are OK). So it may be another stupid California law...... __________________ Steve Bonning, PA-C Licensed Collector of Curios & Relics Maryland Designated Collector

July 4, 2012, 08:55 PM	#11
TomADC Senior Member Join Date: October 14, 2009 Posts: 390	C&R handguns most go thru a FFL01 dealer, long guns can go to a C&R license holder. __________________ US Navy Retired,NRA Life Member,SASS member, Time magazine's Person of the Year 2006!

July 7, 2012, 08:47 PM	#12
Amsdorf Junior member Join Date: July 24, 2011 Location: Saint Louis, Missouri Posts: 849	Bummer, guy. The price you pay for living in the People's Republik of Kalifornia.

July 31, 2012, 11:17 PM	#13
BerdanSS Senior Member Join Date: April 3, 2011 Posts: 593	EDIT.....LOL I just realized this was from '09 Oh well...still though M1895 for $99? Aim Surplus has very nice ones for $99 (including CCCP tulas for and extra $11) with holster and cleaning kit. Not trying to undercut bud's or anything, I like them and all....but why pay $30 more? That's your transfer fee right there. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.as...agant+Revolver Aim's CA policy: CALIFORNIA CUSTOMERS: All handgun shipments to "01" Dealer FFL only and modern handguns must be on the California approved list. No High Capacity magazine sales. No Assault Weapon sales. C&R Licensees may purchase only C&R Rifles that are at least 50 years old, even if the rifle appears on the Federal C&R list. All CA Dealers must give us their CL# before ordering. Check for other Local & State laws before ordering.