Identify this Special forces pistol. . .

Shake · September 5, 2002, 04:38 PM

What is it? SIG? H&K? I'm guessing SIG.

The photo is from CNN's headline story on the assasination attempt. Caption reads: A U.S. Special Forces soldier talks to colleagues after the assassination attempt.

Shake

70-101 · September 5, 2002, 04:43 PM

a Sig 245 to me.

Hard Ball · September 5, 2002, 04:48 PM

I feel certain that the pistol is a SIG, but the detail sin the picture are not clear enough to be certain which model it is.

Handy · September 5, 2002, 05:13 PM

Since we know that Seals are issued Sig 226, wouldn't that be a pretty good guess?

teombe · September 5, 2002, 05:24 PM

P226

imadork · September 5, 2002, 05:35 PM

Whatever it is, that guy has to be hardcore to do without a level IV vest and an ordinary hat (and he's barechested at that!). At least his weapons are state of the art.

IanS · September 5, 2002, 05:39 PM

It looks like a full size Sig Sauer P226 in 9mm. And so yeah, its a good chance he's a SEAL.

DARTH 44 · September 5, 2002, 06:16 PM

Sig Sauer P220 or P226.
If hardpressed I`d say P226.

70-101 · September 5, 2002, 06:20 PM

Did anyone notice, He appears to be carrying a Green Meanie, [hand gernade] next to whatever model Sig,He is carrying. In case he has to drop one in a vehicle, full of Bin ladens, Home boys....

Sundance · September 5, 2002, 07:17 PM

It looks to me like an older model P220 from the sharp rather than rounded point on the hammer and the straight rather than more arched backstrap on the grip. If I was to bet money on it, that would be my guess.

orlando5 · September 5, 2002, 07:35 PM

Quote:

Whatever it is, that guy has to be hardcore to do without a level IV vest and an ordinary hat (and he's barechested at that!). At least his weapons are state of the art.

Well it's probably very hot and humid in Afghanistan.

[email protected] · September 5, 2002, 09:25 PM

Or he got rousted and grabbed his weapon and pants and ran towards the action... and hasn't had time to re-equip.

Kevin

Dave Williams · September 5, 2002, 09:27 PM

I put this photo into Photopoint and played around with it. Zooming just makes it blurrier. It looks like a 226 in a Nelson #1 Professional type holster, possibly a Kramer, I remember when Kramer was advertising that some special ops group chose their vertical scabbard.
I was skeptical of this claim, but not now.

Take care,

Dave

Archer1440 · September 5, 2002, 09:38 PM

Unfortunate that his face is now all over the 'net. So much for operational security.

September 5, 2002, 09:44 PM

nah, lots of Americans look like that, not just special forces

spooker609 · September 5, 2002, 09:49 PM

Who cares as long as he gets to use it to take out some of the *******s responsible for 9-11!!!! Hell I'd give him my gun to do that with!!!

70-101 · September 5, 2002, 11:39 PM

I believe he is CIA,the reason I say this, is because. I think the Geneva Convention prevents/forbids soldiers from not wearing there uniforms while serving in combat on foreign soil.This way they can not be tried as spies if captured,as long as they are wearing there countrys uniform.They must be treated as prisoners of war.

WhiteKnife · September 5, 2002, 11:58 PM

70-101,

I've got news for you if you think that all "soldiers" wear identifiable uniforms at all times. I've spent plenty of time in various states of "uniform" from class A to BDU to sterile to relaxed grooming standards to civilian clothes to dress like the natives. Operators regularly are not recognizable as "soldiers".

WK

DEPUTY · September 6, 2002, 01:20 AM

sig 220 and he is an operator fromn an army unit that doesn't exsist

JIH · September 6, 2002, 06:23 AM

Bob Vila is Delta?

BigD · September 6, 2002, 07:56 AM

...full-sized - either P220 or P226.

jaysouth · September 6, 2002, 08:52 AM

Our local paper had a larger picture. Sig 226 in Kramer Scabbard.

Deputy:

Unit you did not mention carries 1911s.

Shake · September 6, 2002, 09:03 AM

WhiteKnife,

Thus the facial hair??

Shake

M700 · September 6, 2002, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Bob Vila is Delta?

HA!

WhiteKnife · September 6, 2002, 09:23 AM

Shake-

"relaxed grooming standards"...

Jay and Deputy-

Said unit carries operator preference. And most tools are customs based on operator spec.

September 5, 2002, 04:43 PM	#2
70-101 Junior member Join Date: August 2, 2002 Location: virginia Posts: 706	Looks Like a Sig 245 to me.

September 5, 2002, 04:48 PM	#3
Hard Ball Senior Member Join Date: November 28, 1999 Location: California Posts: 3,925	I feel certain that the pistol is a SIG, but the detail sin the picture are not clear enough to be certain which model it is. __________________ "I swear to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemeis domestic or foreign WHOMSOEVER."

September 5, 2002, 05:39 PM	#7
IanS Senior Member Join Date: October 7, 2000 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,632	It looks like a full size Sig Sauer P226 in 9mm. And so yeah, its a good chance he's a SEAL. __________________ Owning a certain handgun isn't a Lifestyle Choice nor is it a Personal Statement. It either works for you or it doesn't. The best article about the 1911 on the internet: http://www.10-8performance.com/1911_Duty_Use.html

September 5, 2002, 06:16 PM	#8
DARTH 44 Senior Member Join Date: July 25, 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 138	Sig Sauer P220 or P226. If hardpressed I`d say P226. __________________ "Americans have the right and advantages of being armed,unlike the citizens of the countries whose governments are afraid to trust the people with arms" JAMES MADISON - The Federalist Papers

September 5, 2002, 09:25 PM	#12
[email protected] Wise Guy Join Date: October 10, 1998 Posts: 665	Or he got rousted and grabbed his weapon and pants and ran towards the action... and hasn't had time to re-equip. Kevin __________________ Kevin Jon Schlossberg Owner, BladeForums.com www.bladeforums.com

September 5, 2002, 04:38 PM	#1
Shake Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 1999 Location: Utah Posts: 1,004	Identify this Special Forces pistol. . . What is it? SIG? H&K? I'm guessing SIG. The photo is from CNN's headline story on the assasination attempt. Caption reads: A U.S. Special Forces soldier talks to colleagues after the assassination attempt. Shake __________________ “The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make some other bastard die for his.” -George Patton Last edited by Shake; September 6, 2002 at 09:25 AM.

September 5, 2002, 05:13 PM	#4
Handy Junior member Join Date: August 31, 2001 Posts: 8,785	Since we know that Seals are issued Sig 226, wouldn't that be a pretty good guess?

September 5, 2002, 05:24 PM	#5
teombe Senior Member Join Date: February 19, 2002 Posts: 130	P226

September 5, 2002, 05:35 PM	#6
imadork Senior Member Join Date: August 27, 2002 Location: Behind Enemy Lines (Cali) Posts: 116	Whatever it is, that guy has to be hardcore to do without a level IV vest and an ordinary hat (and he's barechested at that!). At least his weapons are state of the art.

September 5, 2002, 06:20 PM	#9
70-101 Junior member Join Date: August 2, 2002 Location: virginia Posts: 706	Did anyone notice, He appears to be carrying a Green Meanie, [hand gernade] next to whatever model Sig,He is carrying. In case he has to drop one in a vehicle, full of Bin ladens, Home boys....

September 5, 2002, 07:17 PM	#10
Sundance Senior Member Join Date: November 6, 2001 Posts: 836	It looks to me like an older model P220 from the sharp rather than rounded point on the hammer and the straight rather than more arched backstrap on the grip. If I was to bet money on it, that would be my guess.

September 5, 2002, 09:27 PM	#13
Dave Williams Member Join Date: January 2, 1999 Posts: 79	Looks like a 226 to me I put this photo into Photopoint and played around with it. Zooming just makes it blurrier. It looks like a 226 in a Nelson #1 Professional type holster, possibly a Kramer, I remember when Kramer was advertising that some special ops group chose their vertical scabbard. I was skeptical of this claim, but not now. Take care, Dave

September 5, 2002, 09:38 PM	#14
Archer1440 Senior Member Join Date: March 25, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 519	Unfortunate that his face is now all over the 'net. So much for operational security.

September 5, 2002, 09:44 PM	#15
... Guest Posts: n/a	nah, lots of Americans look like that, not just special forces

September 5, 2002, 11:39 PM	#17
70-101 Junior member Join Date: August 2, 2002 Location: virginia Posts: 706	I don't think he is U.S. Military I believe he is CIA,the reason I say this, is because. I think the Geneva Convention prevents/forbids soldiers from not wearing there uniforms while serving in combat on foreign soil.This way they can not be tried as spies if captured,as long as they are wearing there countrys uniform.They must be treated as prisoners of war. Last edited by 70-101; September 6, 2002 at 09:04 AM.

September 5, 2002, 11:58 PM	#18
WhiteKnife Junior Member Join Date: August 31, 2002 Location: Alaska Posts: 4	70-101, I've got news for you if you think that all "soldiers" wear identifiable uniforms at all times. I've spent plenty of time in various states of "uniform" from class A to BDU to sterile to relaxed grooming standards to civilian clothes to dress like the natives. Operators regularly are not recognizable as "soldiers". WK __________________ A wayfarer should not walk unarmed, But have his weapons at hand: He knows not when he may need a spear, Or what menace meet on the road. -Havamal

September 6, 2002, 01:20 AM	#19
DEPUTY Member Join Date: July 17, 2002 Location: MICHIGAN Posts: 50	sig 220 and he is an operator fromn an army unit that doesn't exsist __________________ FRONT SIGHT, PRESS

September 6, 2002, 06:23 AM	#20
JIH Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 1999 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 963	Bob Vila is Delta?

September 6, 2002, 07:56 AM	#21
BigD Senior Member Join Date: July 16, 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH USA Posts: 190	Definitely a SIG... ...full-sized - either P220 or P226. __________________ <>< --NRA Life Member-- Read between the lines; Criticize the words they're selling. Think for yourself, And feel the walls become sand beneath your feet. --Queensryche--

September 6, 2002, 08:52 AM	#22
jaysouth Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2001 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 787	Our local paper had a larger picture. Sig 226 in Kramer Scabbard. Deputy: Unit you did not mention carries 1911s.

September 6, 2002, 09:03 AM	#23
Shake Senior Member Join Date: September 5, 1999 Location: Utah Posts: 1,004	WhiteKnife, Thus the facial hair?? Shake __________________ “The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make some other bastard die for his.” -George Patton

September 6, 2002, 09:23 AM	#25
WhiteKnife Junior Member Join Date: August 31, 2002 Location: Alaska Posts: 4	Shake- "relaxed grooming standards"... Jay and Deputy- Said unit carries operator preference. And most tools are customs based on operator spec. __________________ A wayfarer should not walk unarmed, But have his weapons at hand: He knows not when he may need a spear, Or what menace meet on the road. -Havamal