1911 not going into battery - Page 2

**44 AMP** · July 8, 2015, 10:53 PM

I don't know who makes them, but for ages the Gun Parts Corp (aka Numrich Arms) and Sarco have sold replacement GI barrels. I would expect one of them to be a no fit needed barrel in a GI spec gun.

I believe the custom barrel makers intentionally make them oversize with the instructions that they need to be fitted to your gun.

James K · July 8, 2015, 11:37 PM

Hi, Polyphemus,

I may keep saying that, but apparently the makers of "1911 type" pistols and parts keep thinking exactly that. I simply refuse to use the term "Model 1911" or "Model 1911A1" for non-Colt/non-GI guns; I call them "1911 type guns", which is a better description.

Jim

superfly92 · July 17, 2015, 05:27 PM

Finally got the barrel fitted and slide goes into battery with no resistance now. The rearmost upper lug on the barrel had to filed down enough to allow the forward lug to actually fit into the slide recesses. Had to replace the link with a #3 link as the one it came with was too short. Going to test fire this weekend at the range and will update with results

Will-j · July 19, 2015, 04:03 AM

Glad to hear you got it all straightened out. Sometimes, it is something easy to fix. Next time you'll know where to start should a similar problem arise with another new barrel.
I've been there with a few new barrels myself. Didn't take but a couple to learn what to look for. Good luck with the next one.

WILL.

Will-j · July 19, 2015, 04:09 AM

Disregard his posting: posed in error.

drobs · July 20, 2015, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 44 AMP

I don't know who makes them, but for ages the Gun Parts Corp (aka Numrich Arms) and Sarco have sold replacement GI barrels. I would expect one of them to be a no fit needed barrel in a GI spec gun.

I believe the custom barrel makers intentionally make them oversize with the instructions that they need to be fitted to your gun.

"Drop In" parts and 1911 means drop in to a gun smith.
Sarco sells unmarked RIA parts as "GI" they don't drop in to anything and need fitting.

Don't believe me - look into building your own 1911. It's a total PITA as every part needs hand fitting.

45Gunner · July 21, 2015, 09:41 AM

Many moons ago, when I was just a young warrior armed with wrenches, screwdrivers and enough knowledge to get myself in trouble, I thought I could fix most things that went wrong with car engines. One day my car engine had a problem, which I thought I could fix. Several days later it cost me twice as much to have a real mechanic fix it after I broke more than I fixed. I learned my lesson.

I carried that lesson over to my adult years. I'm pretty good with fixing guns, changing "drop in" parts, etc. However, when there is a problem that takes more than the screwdriver or hammer to fix, I bring it to my gunsmith who is a 1911 genius. I have even had him to my house to "supervise" and guide me thru some of the work I have attempted. Worked out fine under his guidance but don't think I would attempt it alone.

I am envious of those that have a talent to work with their hands...gunsmiths, artists, musicians, etc. Hope you get your problem solved...and very interesting reading all the knowledgable responses. By the way, if you don't have "The Colt .45 Automatic, A Shop Manual" by Jerry Kuhnhausen, by all means pick one up.

Dave AA · July 25, 2015, 10:34 AM

I get it 44AMP

superfly92 · August 21, 2015, 05:38 AM

Thanks for all the help. Had to get a few range trips in to make sure everything was functioning properly but everything works now. VIS is showing pretty even contact with the barrel lugs and haven't had any FTFs or FTEs

July 8, 2015, 10:53 PM	#26
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,832	I don't know who makes them, but for ages the Gun Parts Corp (aka Numrich Arms) and Sarco have sold replacement GI barrels. I would expect one of them to be a no fit needed barrel in a GI spec gun. I believe the custom barrel makers intentionally make them oversize with the instructions that they need to be fitted to your gun. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

July 19, 2015, 04:03 AM	#29
Will-j Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2014 Location: SW Ga. Near Ft. Benning Posts: 251	1911/battery Glad to hear you got it all straightened out. Sometimes, it is something easy to fix. Next time you'll know where to start should a similar problem arise with another new barrel. I've been there with a few new barrels myself. Didn't take but a couple to learn what to look for. Good luck with the next one. WILL. __________________ Life's too short to worry about the small stuff....... IT'S ALL SMALL STUFF. D@MN, I really miss my meds. THE WINDS OF CHANGE ARE BLOWING FROM OUR OWN CAPITOL.

July 19, 2015, 04:09 AM	#30
Will-j Senior Member Join Date: December 16, 2014 Location: SW Ga. Near Ft. Benning Posts: 251	Disregard his posting: posed in error. __________________ Life's too short to worry about the small stuff....... IT'S ALL SMALL STUFF. D@MN, I really miss my meds. THE WINDS OF CHANGE ARE BLOWING FROM OUR OWN CAPITOL.

July 21, 2015, 09:41 AM	#32
45Gunner Senior Member Join Date: August 8, 2009 Location: Boca Raton, FL Posts: 1,902	Many moons ago, when I was just a young warrior armed with wrenches, screwdrivers and enough knowledge to get myself in trouble, I thought I could fix most things that went wrong with car engines. One day my car engine had a problem, which I thought I could fix. Several days later it cost me twice as much to have a real mechanic fix it after I broke more than I fixed. I learned my lesson. I carried that lesson over to my adult years. I'm pretty good with fixing guns, changing "drop in" parts, etc. However, when there is a problem that takes more than the screwdriver or hammer to fix, I bring it to my gunsmith who is a 1911 genius. I have even had him to my house to "supervise" and guide me thru some of the work I have attempted. Worked out fine under his guidance but don't think I would attempt it alone. I am envious of those that have a talent to work with their hands...gunsmiths, artists, musicians, etc. Hope you get your problem solved...and very interesting reading all the knowledgable responses. By the way, if you don't have "The Colt .45 Automatic, A Shop Manual" by Jerry Kuhnhausen, by all means pick one up. __________________ 45Gunner May the Schwartz Be With You. NRA Instructor NRA Life Member

July 25, 2015, 10:34 AM	#33
Dave AA Senior Member Join Date: August 18, 1999 Posts: 407	I get it 44AMP __________________ Take with food or milk

July 8, 2015, 11:37 PM	#27
James K Member In Memoriam Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 24,383	Hi, Polyphemus, I may keep saying that, but apparently the makers of "1911 type" pistols and parts keep thinking exactly that. I simply refuse to use the term "Model 1911" or "Model 1911A1" for non-Colt/non-GI guns; I call them "1911 type guns", which is a better description. Jim

July 17, 2015, 05:27 PM	#28
superfly92 Junior Member Join Date: July 3, 2015 Posts: 8	Finally got the barrel fitted and slide goes into battery with no resistance now. The rearmost upper lug on the barrel had to filed down enough to allow the forward lug to actually fit into the slide recesses. Had to replace the link with a #3 link as the one it came with was too short. Going to test fire this weekend at the range and will update with results

August 21, 2015, 05:38 AM	#34
superfly92 Junior Member Join Date: July 3, 2015 Posts: 8	Thanks for all the help. Had to get a few range trips in to make sure everything was functioning properly but everything works now. VIS is showing pretty even contact with the barrel lugs and haven't had any FTFs or FTEs