commanche versus rossi matched pair

Bezoar · October 2, 2013, 09:21 AM

Im just looking at an easy single shot hunter in 45 colt. Dont really want to spend much money.

Which is actually going to be better at out to 50 yards on a deer with normal 45 colt ammo as far as accuracy goes?

or is it bad enough that i should simply get a blackhawk?

C5rider · October 2, 2013, 04:20 PM

Bezoar,

I'm not up on exactly what a Comanche or a Rossi are going for nowadays, but I will say that Ruger's "not a warranty" customer service is top notch and, chances are good you'll never need it.

Cost wise, I'm sure you could find a used Ruger for a good price, possibly close to the cost of one of the others. Unless of course, you find one for a great price, used. My .02.

Bezoar · October 2, 2013, 06:15 PM

i can get a commanche for 175 plus shipping and transfer. rossi matched pair pistols for 250.

cheapest cheapest ruger on the other hand would cost me at least 80% of website msrp

C5rider · October 2, 2013, 08:06 PM

Not a bad price for either, imho.

I likes my Rugers, but I've been known to pick up a lesser-known name if the price is right. I've not owned a Comanche, but I've heard good things about them.

I'm sure someone will stop by with some first hand experience. Whichever way you go, remember that we love pics!

slugoo · October 3, 2013, 05:26 PM

I have the super comanchee and you'd be lucky to hit a 9x11 sheet of paper at 7 yards, with my blackhawks I can put 6 shots in 3 inches at 7 yards. All you'll do with the comanchee is scare the deer! The super uses 410 shotgun shells and you could use it for bird hunting if you can get within 7 yards of the bird. don't know anything about the rossi but sounds too cheap to me. Charlie

2000ShadowACE · October 4, 2013, 09:07 AM

I have the Rossi Matched pair. It's a good gun, but the sights are crap plastic. With a little super glue you can have a fun range gun, but for hunting, go with the Ruger, although the Black hawk has its own drawbacks.

larryh1108 · October 4, 2013, 08:02 PM

The Llama Comanche series is not the same as the currently made Comanche lineup.

The Llamas are S&W knockoffs. I have the Super Comanche .44mag and it is a tack driver.

I do not own a new production Comanche but all I've read is not too good.

DaleA · October 5, 2013, 01:32 AM

Quote:

The Llama Comanche series is not the same as the currently made Comanche lineup.

Thanks for the clarification. I remember the Llama Comanche series from the late 1970's as being a decent lower priced firearm. Had a lot of fun with one in .357 magnum.

**44 AMP** · October 5, 2013, 01:02 PM

I had one of the Commanche .357s from the late 70s, and it was NOT a decent lower priced firearm. I would, reliably fire four rounds out of the six, and not always the same four each time!

If you got a good one, great. If not, then you were pretty much stuck. The second Llama I had was also a lemon. 1911 style gun, the one with the tiny vent rib (forget the model name), it would fail to extract every 2-3 rnds.

At that point I decided to spend a bit more money up front, and get a gun that even if it had issues, I could actually get it fixed. I gave up on Llamas, and you know what? None of my other guns missed them at all!

While there may be exceptions, guns chambered for the .410/.45 colt that I have had have not been as accurate with the .45 Colt ammo as the guns chambered only for .45 Colt have been.

In my Contender, I have two barrels, one .45/.410 and the other .45 Colt only. The .410 does ok with .410 shells, and only fair with .45 Colt ammo. The .45 Colt barrel is more accurate than the combo barrel.
Your mileage may vary.

DaleA · October 7, 2013, 06:31 PM

Llama Comanche - might be a little like buying a Taurus as far as getting a good one goes.

I have a soft spot for the Comanche .357 as it was the first double action revolver that I took the sideplate off it, disassembled it and actually got it back together!

I learned a lot from that gun. Most importantly I learned never to take the sideplate off a double action revolver.

Plus with the vent rib on it you always hoped people would think you owned a Colt Python.

Old Stony · October 7, 2013, 07:48 PM

2000 Shadow.....what would you consider the Blackhawk drawbacks?

OkieCruffler · October 8, 2013, 01:35 AM

Neither is really optimal for your purpose but I would definitely go with the Rossi. The trigger on the Comanche is just brutal.

WV_gunner · October 8, 2013, 04:08 PM

I've never shot one of those Comanche single shot pistols, but it'd have to be a very good deal before I'd buy one. The best one I've seen looks bad. I've seen them used for $150-$200. I think new is $200-$250. I wouldn't pay $100 for one.

Glock20/460long · October 8, 2013, 10:05 PM

Sorry! Good luck!

2000ShadowACE · October 9, 2013, 09:05 AM

"2000 Shadow.....what would you consider the Blackhawk drawbacks?"

The only thing I have against the Blackhawk is the tiny grips that seem to be on all of the models I have seen. I know you can add aftermarket wood grips, but I feel that for the money the Ruger should come with decent grips.

DaleA · October 10, 2013, 11:02 PM

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The only thing I have against the Blackhawk is the tiny grips.

I kind of agree but I don't mind making changes that make the gun fit me better. And I admit there is an element of 'customizing' a gun that is the same as 'customizing' your car. Somebody once said one of the worst insults you could throw at someone's car was that it was 'stock.'

There was a time where any handgun that came my way got fitted for a set of Pachmayr grips and that included a Ruger SA. Even I admitted the stock wood grips looked better than the Pachmayr grips but the Pachmayr grips sure felt nice.

October 2, 2013, 09:21 AM	#1
Bezoar Junior member Join Date: October 19, 2004 Location: michigan Posts: 578	commanche versus rossi matched pair Im just looking at an easy single shot hunter in 45 colt. Dont really want to spend much money. Which is actually going to be better at out to 50 yards on a deer with normal 45 colt ammo as far as accuracy goes? or is it bad enough that i should simply get a blackhawk?

October 2, 2013, 04:20 PM	#2
C5rider Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2011 Posts: 108	Bezoar, I'm not up on exactly what a Comanche or a Rossi are going for nowadays, but I will say that Ruger's "not a warranty" customer service is top notch and, chances are good you'll never need it. Cost wise, I'm sure you could find a used Ruger for a good price, possibly close to the cost of one of the others. Unless of course, you find one for a great price, used. My .02. __________________ The United States Constitution is not under glass to protect it from the dust of the ages, but rather from the fingerprints of those who are elected to uphold it.

October 2, 2013, 08:06 PM	#4
C5rider Senior Member Join Date: January 20, 2011 Posts: 108	Not a bad price for either, imho. I likes my Rugers, but I've been known to pick up a lesser-known name if the price is right. I've not owned a Comanche, but I've heard good things about them. I'm sure someone will stop by with some first hand experience. Whichever way you go, remember that we love pics! __________________ The United States Constitution is not under glass to protect it from the dust of the ages, but rather from the fingerprints of those who are elected to uphold it.

October 4, 2013, 09:07 AM	#6
2000ShadowACE Member Join Date: June 24, 2012 Location: Eastern Iowa Posts: 69	I have the Rossi Matched pair. It's a good gun, but the sights are crap plastic. With a little super glue you can have a fun range gun, but for hunting, go with the Ruger, although the Black hawk has its own drawbacks. __________________ We have nothing to fear, but politicians.

October 4, 2013, 08:02 PM	#7
larryh1108 Senior Member Join Date: July 26, 2008 Location: NC Posts: 813	The Llama Comanche series is not the same as the currently made Comanche lineup. The Llamas are S&W knockoffs. I have the Super Comanche .44mag and it is a tack driver. I do not own a new production Comanche but all I've read is not too good. __________________ Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

October 2, 2013, 06:15 PM	#3
Bezoar Junior member Join Date: October 19, 2004 Location: michigan Posts: 578	i can get a commanche for 175 plus shipping and transfer. rossi matched pair pistols for 250. cheapest cheapest ruger on the other hand would cost me at least 80% of website msrp

October 3, 2013, 05:26 PM	#5
slugoo Member Join Date: May 3, 2011 Location: Littleton Colorado Posts: 78	I have the super comanchee and you'd be lucky to hit a 9x11 sheet of paper at 7 yards, with my blackhawks I can put 6 shots in 3 inches at 7 yards. All you'll do with the comanchee is scare the deer! The super uses 410 shotgun shells and you could use it for bird hunting if you can get within 7 yards of the bird. don't know anything about the rossi but sounds too cheap to me. Charlie

October 5, 2013, 01:02 PM	#9
44 AMP Staff Join Date: March 11, 2006 Location: Upper US Posts: 28,820	I had one of the Commanche .357s from the late 70s, and it was NOT a decent lower priced firearm. I would, reliably fire four rounds out of the six, and not always the same four each time! If you got a good one, great. If not, then you were pretty much stuck. The second Llama I had was also a lemon. 1911 style gun, the one with the tiny vent rib (forget the model name), it would fail to extract every 2-3 rnds. At that point I decided to spend a bit more money up front, and get a gun that even if it had issues, I could actually get it fixed. I gave up on Llamas, and you know what? None of my other guns missed them at all! While there may be exceptions, guns chambered for the .410/.45 colt that I have had have not been as accurate with the .45 Colt ammo as the guns chambered only for .45 Colt have been. In my Contender, I have two barrels, one .45/.410 and the other .45 Colt only. The .410 does ok with .410 shells, and only fair with .45 Colt ammo. The .45 Colt barrel is more accurate than the combo barrel. Your mileage may vary. __________________ All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.

October 7, 2013, 06:31 PM	#10
DaleA Senior Member Join Date: September 12, 2002 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 5,312	Llama Comanche - might be a little like buying a Taurus as far as getting a good one goes. I have a soft spot for the Comanche .357 as it was the first double action revolver that I took the sideplate off it, disassembled it and actually got it back together! I learned a lot from that gun. Most importantly I learned never to take the sideplate off a double action revolver. Plus with the vent rib on it you always hoped people would think you owned a Colt Python.

October 7, 2013, 07:48 PM	#11
Old Stony Senior Member Join Date: May 31, 2013 Location: East Texas Posts: 1,705	2000 Shadow.....what would you consider the Blackhawk drawbacks?

October 8, 2013, 01:35 AM	#12
OkieCruffler Senior Member Join Date: July 9, 2001 Location: Denison Texas on the banks of Texhoma Posts: 1,556	Neither is really optimal for your purpose but I would definitely go with the Rossi. The trigger on the Comanche is just brutal. __________________ John A. Monroe, Never Forgive, Never Forget, Blood Pays Blood

October 8, 2013, 04:08 PM	#13
WV_gunner Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2011 Location: WV Posts: 938	I've never shot one of those Comanche single shot pistols, but it'd have to be a very good deal before I'd buy one. The best one I've seen looks bad. I've seen them used for $150-$200. I think new is $200-$250. I wouldn't pay $100 for one.

October 8, 2013, 10:05 PM	#14
Glock20/460long Member Join Date: April 23, 2013 Posts: 68	Sorry! Good luck!

October 9, 2013, 09:05 AM	#15
2000ShadowACE Member Join Date: June 24, 2012 Location: Eastern Iowa Posts: 69	"2000 Shadow.....what would you consider the Blackhawk drawbacks?" The only thing I have against the Blackhawk is the tiny grips that seem to be on all of the models I have seen. I know you can add aftermarket wood grips, but I feel that for the money the Ruger should come with decent grips. __________________ We have nothing to fear, but politicians.