Has there ever been an AK/AR hybrid that uses an AK bolt & carrier...

DMK · January 25, 2016, 12:40 PM

Has there ever been an AK/AR hybrid that uses an AK bolt & carrier, left side charging handle, with AR type lower or at least mags that insert straight in?

In other words, an AK action in 223/5.56 with AR like ergo controls (except for the charging handle)

wogpotter · January 25, 2016, 01:20 PM

Closest I've seen to that description would be the old "Robinson Arms XCR".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Armament_XCR

Ocraknife · January 25, 2016, 01:21 PM

the Sig 5.56 maybe?

DMK · January 25, 2016, 01:27 PM

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Closest I've seen to that description would be the old "Robinson Arms XCR".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Armament_XCR

That does look like what I'm looking for. I do like that bolt.

AutoPistola · January 25, 2016, 02:14 PM

There's one called the ARC. The M10X is close, but uses a SIG style piston/spring arrangement.

T. O'Heir · January 25, 2016, 02:30 PM

The Galil is a combination of the "best" features of both rifles. The Robinson looks very much like a copy of it.

DMK · January 25, 2016, 03:22 PM

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The Galil is a combination of the "best" features of both rifles.

Not really. The Galil still rocks the mags in. The left side thumb safety also looks awkward. I have to wonder about that top cover rear sight too.

Destructo6 · January 26, 2016, 12:55 PM

SIG 55x series is exactly that.

The upper is a refined AK action: better sights, recoil spring moved to gas tube, etc. The lower, in many versions, takes standard AR magazines and has AR ergonomics, such as the selector and magazine release.

http://www.sigsauer.com/upFiles/cata...etail-Hero.jpg

peggysue · January 26, 2016, 01:32 PM

Daewoo too.

DMK · January 26, 2016, 07:20 PM

You guys are right. The Sig 55x does have a lot of the good features of the AK. I've never really looked too much into it before.

ronl · January 27, 2016, 09:20 PM

The Daewoo and the "old"RA XCR are good examples of excellent hybrids. I own both of them so I can attest to the qualities of each. The newer XCR's are quite possibly the best of their kind ever developed. In my humble opinion, they are much more refined and capable than the SCAR and ACR, which came after the XCR. Rock solid platform, but I can also say that of the Daewoo K2. Only thing about the K2 is that accessories are pretty expensive.

dakota.potts · January 28, 2016, 12:42 AM

That sounds a lot like the new Faxon Arms ARAK which was recently released.

DMK · January 28, 2016, 07:47 AM

Doesn't the Daewoo K2 have an AR style bolt?

rkbanet · January 28, 2016, 07:59 AM

The closest IMHO is the FN FNC...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_FNC

peggysue · January 28, 2016, 05:35 PM

I even have an improved safety on her...

Ignition Override · January 29, 2016, 08:31 PM

DMK:
A good breakdown of the XCR in .308 is on Youtube, performed by a young lady who has made numerous gun videos: "faliaphotography".

January 25, 2016, 12:40 PM	#1
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wogpotter Senior Member Join Date: September 27, 2004 Posts: 4,811	Closest I've seen to that description would be the old "Robinson Arms XCR". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robinson_Armament_XCR __________________ Allan Quatermain: “Automatic rifles. Who in God's name has automatic rifles”? Elderly Hunter: “That's dashed unsporting. Probably Belgium.”

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Ocraknife Senior Member Join Date: March 19, 2002 Location: Nashville Posts: 1,117	the Sig 5.56 maybe? __________________ "The loudest sound you'll ever hear is a "bang" when you weren't expecting one." -Jimro

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T. O'Heir Senior Member Join Date: February 13, 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 12,453	The Galil is a combination of the "best" features of both rifles. The Robinson looks very much like a copy of it. __________________ Spelling and grammar count!

January 26, 2016, 12:55 PM	#8
Destructo6 Senior Member Join Date: March 18, 1999 Location: Nogales, AZ USA Posts: 4,001	SIG 55x series is exactly that. The upper is a refined AK action: better sights, recoil spring moved to gas tube, etc. The lower, in many versions, takes standard AR magazines and has AR ergonomics, such as the selector and magazine release. http://www.sigsauer.com/upFiles/cata...etail-Hero.jpg __________________ God gave you a soul. Your parents, a body. Your country, a rifle. Keep all of them clean.

January 25, 2016, 02:14 PM	#5
AutoPistola Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2007 Location: The Boonies Posts: 426	There's one called the ARC. The M10X is close, but uses a SIG style piston/spring arrangement.

January 26, 2016, 01:32 PM	#9
peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	Daewoo too.

January 26, 2016, 07:20 PM	#10
DMK Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: Over the hills and far, far away Posts: 3,206	You guys are right. The Sig 55x does have a lot of the good features of the AK. I've never really looked too much into it before. __________________ - Homeland Security begins at home: Support your Second Amendment - www.gunowners.org - www.saf.org - act.nraila.org - www.grnc.org

January 27, 2016, 09:20 PM	#11
ronl Senior Member Join Date: December 2, 2007 Posts: 1,100	The Daewoo and the "old"RA XCR are good examples of excellent hybrids. I own both of them so I can attest to the qualities of each. The newer XCR's are quite possibly the best of their kind ever developed. In my humble opinion, they are much more refined and capable than the SCAR and ACR, which came after the XCR. Rock solid platform, but I can also say that of the Daewoo K2. Only thing about the K2 is that accessories are pretty expensive.

January 28, 2016, 12:42 AM	#12
dakota.potts Senior Member Join Date: February 25, 2013 Location: Keystone Heights, Florida Posts: 3,084	That sounds a lot like the new Faxon Arms ARAK which was recently released. __________________ Certified Gunsmith (On Hiatus) Certified Armorer - H&K and Glock Among Others You can find my writings at my website, pottsprecision.com.

January 28, 2016, 07:47 AM	#13
DMK Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2001 Location: Over the hills and far, far away Posts: 3,206	Doesn't the Daewoo K2 have an AR style bolt? __________________ - Homeland Security begins at home: Support your Second Amendment - www.gunowners.org - www.saf.org - act.nraila.org - www.grnc.org

January 28, 2016, 07:59 AM	#14
rkbanet Member Join Date: April 16, 2012 Posts: 64	The closest IMHO is the FN FNC... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_FNC

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peggysue Junior member Join Date: May 20, 2014 Posts: 1,835	I even have an improved safety on her... Last edited by peggysue; January 29, 2016 at 10:49 PM.

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Ignition Override Senior Member Join Date: February 18, 2008 Location: About 20 nm from the Big Muddy Posts: 2,887	DMK: A good breakdown of the XCR in .308 is on Youtube, performed by a young lady who has made numerous gun videos: "faliaphotography".