June 6, 2009, 03:03 PM | #26 | ||
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However, there is no need to belittle me because of my age. I am trying to be as ready and prepared as I can given my current experience. Can you fault me on that? I have a full understanding of my state's self defense laws and have read as much as possible about individual self defense cases in my state, barring any foolish actions (i.e. Oklahoma pharmacist) on my or another family member's part I have a very good idea of how my state's laws would apply in the aftermath of a use of lethal force in defense of our home. I know I am not ready mentally, but who is who has not had the unfortunate experience of taking a human life? I know I have one skill that is important to have in a high stress situation and that is the ability to detach emotionally and fall back on training or a plan of action. I know that if I do not do this when I have to defend my home then I will surely fail, I will either hesitate and be killed or make a very costly mistake that causes me to take the life of a family member or close friend. Short of the formal training mentioned above I believe I am as prepared as I can be, for now. I have discussed this with my family and we have decided on a best course of action, I still have some talking to do with my younger brother but he will get straightened out and know his role. Edit: Quote:
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June 6, 2009, 06:14 PM | #27 |
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Well, I'm only 10 years older than you are, but my Dad is 44 years older than me. I think anyone under 40 is a young man to him. And he didn't mean his comments to be demeaning, but think about this.
NRA certification classes are the next best thing to worthless unless you're going hunting. You have no real idea about what can and will happen to you after you pull the trigger on a human being, bad guy or not. There's state laws and prosecutors, and then there's the one you should hope you never face. Civil law suits. Thats the one that seems to be able to dodge the laws and land you in a jail cell for a very long time to come. You have no way of knowing which direction the whole thing will take after there's just you, a body, the Sheriff and the vultures waiting in the wings. The best you can do is be as well educated in the ramifications of pulling a trigger. You need to find a CC instructor that has references. The responsibility to find the right instructor and the most thorough course is yours. My Dad almost never posts anything on the net anymore, but I'm going to go find the one that he did post for a guy who was sort of in the same boat as you. You might find it good reading, and at least it will give you something to think about. Latigo |
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Thankyou Foreman, I'll be sure to read it.
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Read the rest of it, I feel pretty well covered if I shoot someone I don't know who forced their way into my home in the wee hours of the morning: http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2...ext/hb1061.htm I've read and re-read this about 15 times over so I feel like I know it pretty well. Let me know if you spot something you think I missed.
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June 6, 2009, 06:58 PM | #29 |
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Its this one. And I'm glad you're protected in your state, or at least I hope it stays that way.
http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=60859 Interesting reading at the very least. Latigo |
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Im sorry but I disagree with this statement. If the father is not willing to mentally condition himself or does not really care that much to have a gun, then as long as he is okay with it they son who actually knows what he is doing should be the one armed. If one of the inexperienced parents grabs the gun, then gets it taken away from them because they are not actually ready to kill someone, then the situation really just escalated. As for your brother, Until he really gets some experience with it you should have him bring his 20 ga just unloaded. I think the scare factor for the BG would go up when confronted with two people with long guns vs. just one. I would say get to where your family is as quickly as you can and then assess the situation from there. |
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June 6, 2009, 08:18 PM | #31 |
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First, I'd just recomend you get the family together and talk it over.
If everyone looks over the facts, it may be easier to work something out Right now, I'd see if your brother would leave his SKS or 20 gauge with your dad. What I'd recomend: Dad has a gun, you have one as well. Work it out a "Plan" on what do do. Ask your brother (Phrase it this way as well), to remain upstairs and call 911, this way there is a always-open 911 line, and as "backup" (All of this will sound important). If there are shots fired, pre-arrange some kind of signal, and then decide on what to do. Right now, our plan is no one leaves the rooms. Me and dad's rooms are within 15 feet of each other. We stay within the doorways, so anything in between AIN'T US. Only after we sorta figure out who's who, we look around more. Everything's one floor, and really open (Only 2 closed off/unseeable rooms), so it is alot easier for us. Regardless, I sortof plan on getting a home-alarm system. Only problem is we have a driveway alarm, and all the freakin animals keep setting it off I don't know what we'll do with something circling the entire house!!! To the comment above: I was under the impression that the father was willing to learn,etc. just that money is tight enough that he didn't want to yet? |
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Have you considered letting your brother lead, so he won't accidentally shoot you? Then again, there's a risk he'd accidentally shoot someone else.
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If the BGs are confronted by your parents then they arent likely to be worried about or aware of your presence. This gives you alot of time to sneak down the stairs and either set up and wait for the BGs to turn the wrong corner or to sneak up on them and take control of the situation. Since your parents are unarmed then you do not have to worry about them accidentally confusing you with an intruder which makes your job a whole lot easier.
Also if someone has illegally entered you house, the situation has already escalated to the point where a gun is necessary. Is there anyone else who lives in the upstairs part of the house with you and your brother? you could put your brother in charge of defending them. If not just explain to him the importance of dialing 911 and convince him thats the best way for him to help out. |
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