Hi-Power Opinions - Page 3

slaf4u · September 24, 2015, 12:14 PM

It's THE ugliest gun of them all.
Let me help all of you who want to get rid of this ugly thing. I'll provide a postal address to send your old ugly looking HiPowers. I won't charge you anything for saving you from the misery to own that thing...

745SW · September 24, 2015, 02:15 PM

"Well I know Im going to get crucified for this, But Does anybody else agree with me, That the Browning Hi-Power is just one ugly gun?"

It's about time someone brought it up.

I never liked the looks of the Hi-Power from its narrowed front portion of the slide to the elongated lever on the left-side. For a SA the trigger is floating too far forward. Slide is perhaps the slimmest of any 9mm I've handled and the grip is full, not as comfy as a 1911.

At the various shows interest of the H-Power isn't much, perhaps a bit better the HK P7. Glock, 1911's and Beretta seem to be of the popular choices.

Historically IMO it is important. No barrel link or bushing to become loose. The variants today can be exceptionally reliable.

Walt Sherrill · September 24, 2015, 02:37 PM

Most guns, if they are at least moderately competent, can grow on you.

I think my BHP is a handsome gun. Most of my guns, including my Glock, are handsome guns.

As I think about it, about the ONLY guns I consider truly ugly are the Colt 2000 and the CZ-52, and MAYBE the Hi-Point C9. That said, I might even buy a Hi-Point C9 some day, if I can find one used for the right price. I don't think that would happen with either the Colt 2000 or the CZ-52.

Colt 2000

CZ-52

That said, I think I prefer the Hi-Point 9mm to either of those guns:

Hi-Point C9

Sevens · September 24, 2015, 02:59 PM

Walt, if you're going to expand this conversation to ugly semi-auto handguns...

Throw up a picture of an HK P7.

Skans · September 24, 2015, 04:43 PM

The Hi-Power looks a lot like the CZ 75B and 75B pattern guns. Truth be told, I prefer the aesthetics of the CZ 75B to the Hi-Power. But, the trigger and smoothness of the slide on my BHP (feels like its gliding on tiny ball bearings) is definitely superior to that of my CZ 75B. In fact, not even my Sig X-Five's slide movement feels as slick as my BHP.

9x18_Walther · September 24, 2015, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Throw up a picture of an HK P7.

Had enough of the other thread?

How dare you speak blasphemy to me.

Banish yourself!

All jokes aside (not really), the Browning Hi-Power IMO, is a pretty attractive looking gun. Seriously, the only "ugly" gun I've seen recently is one of those ZEV Glocks and that Hi-Point above...

745SW · September 24, 2015, 05:25 PM

I think anyone with any degree of an accumulation should have a Hi-Point. Just looking and/or handling it will make one appreciate more. Yes, you may not have everythang but what you've got counts.

WVsig · September 24, 2015, 05:33 PM

Horrible looking guns....

ttarp · September 24, 2015, 09:08 PM

Dang, those tip the ugly scale so far they come all the way back around to beautiful.

1 and 3 really get my attention, and I'm not usually into the two tone look.

bamaranger · September 25, 2015, 01:50 AM

Like the fella that kissed the cow........to each his own.

I think the BHP in wood and blue steel is attractive. The parkerized, synthetic gripped models not so much.....but not ugly either.

The SIG P- series, and Glocks, yeah, I always thought they were indeed ugly, ...but they work fine and I own several.

gyvel · September 25, 2015, 01:57 AM

Walther PPS looks like a Hi-Point. LOL!

gyvel · September 25, 2015, 01:59 AM

Quote:

I never liked the looks of the Hi-Power from its narrowed front portion of the slide to the elongated lever on the left-side. For a SA the trigger is floating too far forward. Slide is perhaps the slimmest of any 9mm I've handled and the grip is full, not as comfy as a 1911.

All the more for me...

9x18_Walther · September 25, 2015, 02:55 AM

Another plus for the Hi-Power! No silly front cocking serrations. The Hi-Power has stayed true all of these years unlike other companies picking up the 1911.

Until the Hi-Power fad starts in a few year.

Skans · September 25, 2015, 08:20 AM

I never understood how folks could love a 1911 but not like the Hi-Power. To me, the Hi-Power is what the 1911 should have eventually evolved into.

Walt Sherrill · September 25, 2015, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skans

I never understood how folks could love a 1911 but not like the Hi-Power. To me, the Hi-Power is what the 1911 should have eventually evolved into.

Imagine the Hi-power enlarged just a bit to accommodate the slightly longer .45 case, maybe with a cast frame (it might NOT be needed), and with an extra rounds or two from a double-stack mag. It could still be a pretty slim gun.

It probably never happened because the European market never really was never as infatuated with the .45 ACP as U.S. shooters -- and by the time gun-makers in Europe started bulding .45s more broadly, the BHO design was no longer state-of-the-art.

gyvel · September 25, 2015, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Imagine the Hi-power enlarged just a bit to accommodate the slightly longer .45 case, maybe with a cast frame (it might NOT be needed), and with an extra rounds or two from a double-stack mag. It could still be a pretty slim gun.

It probably never happened because the European market never really was never as infatuated with the .45 ACP as U.S. shooters -- and by the time gun-makers in Europe started bulding .45s more broadly, the BHO design was no longer state-of-the-art.

It did happen. Check out the NAACO Brigadier.

9x18_Walther · September 25, 2015, 10:17 AM

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NAACO Brigadier

It probably didn't catch on since it was chambered in .45 NAACO (which later became .45 Winchester Magnum) instead of .45 ACP.

Now a 10mm Hi-Power would be pretty sweet.

Bartholomew Roberts · September 25, 2015, 11:38 AM

230gr at 1660fps?

That's practically an intermediate caliber handgun.

Also slide mounted safeties make JMB cry.

SIGSHR · September 25, 2015, 02:40 PM

It's looks pretty ugly when a terrorist sees one in the hand of an SAS member.

Quentin2 · September 25, 2015, 02:40 PM

Yep, WVsig those truly are horrible looking. I want all of them!

Everybody who IS somebody should have at least one Hi Power and one 1911!

bamaranger · September 25, 2015, 05:51 PM

Yes it did happen. When the .40 S&W hit the scene, some dimensions on the BHP changed to accomodate the hotter .40 rd, and to the purists, the BHP took a turn in the wrong direction.

Me, I think the .40 turned the BHP into a better pistol, as I never owned or handled one of the "traditional models" much, and the .40 is more cartridge, no matter how you look at it. Thing is the .40 BHP did not fly, and I don't thinK its offered anymore.

Shows you what I know.

Walt Sherrill · September 25, 2015, 07:56 PM

When FN converted the HP to .40, theY found that the gun needed some additional beefing up, and went to a CAST frame rather than forged.

I don't think it changed dimensions all that much, but in .40 mode, some folks familiar with the BHP found the feel of the gun different... (A friend who had one loved his, and he could make ANY GUN sing!!)

The BHP/FNHP apparently died from lack of buyer interest.

Kosh75287 · September 26, 2015, 04:54 PM

I always liked the lines on the Browning High-Power, but I've had to admire it from afar. If I actually owned one, I might be less pleased with its looks, but I doubt it.

lewwallace · September 27, 2015, 05:39 PM

Screenshot_2014-12-05-10-24-23-1-1.jpgHere's ugly! And I love 'em!! Webley semi-autos! C/W top left: 32, Browning 9mm long. 38acp, 455

rock185 · September 27, 2015, 07:22 PM

Spread the word! They are odd and ugly looking, not plastic, and worst of all they have no rail to mount accessories, so they can't be tactical. I hope demand for them drops to near zero. I've owned more than my share of these odd, ugly, weird looking things over a good many years, but have not bought or traded for a Hi Power in the last couple. When I get the bug to buy another one, perhaps the ugly things will be selling for about the same price as a used Hi-Point;-) I can only hope.

September 24, 2015, 12:14 PM	#51
slaf4u Member Join Date: May 13, 2013 Posts: 22	It's THE ugliest gun of them all. Let me help all of you who want to get rid of this ugly thing. I'll provide a postal address to send your old ugly looking HiPowers. I won't charge you anything for saving you from the misery to own that thing... __________________ www.BHSpringSolutions.com Hi-Power, 1911, CZ and Makarov Spring Kits, Tools and Grips.

September 24, 2015, 02:15 PM	#52
745SW Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2011 Location: California Posts: 776	"Well I know Im going to get crucified for this, But Does anybody else agree with me, That the Browning Hi-Power is just one ugly gun?" It's about time someone brought it up. I never liked the looks of the Hi-Power from its narrowed front portion of the slide to the elongated lever on the left-side. For a SA the trigger is floating too far forward. Slide is perhaps the slimmest of any 9mm I've handled and the grip is full, not as comfy as a 1911. At the various shows interest of the H-Power isn't much, perhaps a bit better the HK P7. Glock, 1911's and Beretta seem to be of the popular choices. Historically IMO it is important. No barrel link or bushing to become loose. The variants today can be exceptionally reliable. Last edited by 745SW; September 24, 2015 at 02:29 PM.

September 24, 2015, 02:37 PM	#53
Walt Sherrill Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA Posts: 6,348	Most guns, if they are at least moderately competent, can grow on you. I think my BHP is a handsome gun. Most of my guns, including my Glock, are handsome guns. As I think about it, about the ONLY guns I consider truly ugly are the Colt 2000 and the CZ-52, and MAYBE the Hi-Point C9. That said, I might even buy a Hi-Point C9 some day, if I can find one used for the right price. I don't think that would happen with either the Colt 2000 or the CZ-52. Colt 2000 CZ-52 That said, I think I prefer the Hi-Point 9mm to either of those guns: Hi-Point C9 Last edited by Walt Sherrill; September 24, 2015 at 07:00 PM.

September 24, 2015, 02:59 PM	#54
Sevens Senior Member Join Date: July 28, 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 11,756	Walt, if you're going to expand this conversation to ugly semi-auto handguns... Throw up a picture of an HK P7. __________________ *Attention Brass rats and other reloaders:* I really need .327 Federal Magnum brass, no lot size too small. Tell me what caliber you need and I'll see what I have to swap. PM me and we'll discuss.

September 24, 2015, 05:33 PM	#58
WVsig Senior Member Join Date: June 30, 2010 Location: NC Posts: 5,309	Horrible looking guns.... __________________ -The right to be left alone is the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by free people.-Louis Brandeis -Its a tool box... I don't care you put the tools in for the job that's all... -Sam from Ronin -It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle

September 24, 2015, 04:43 PM	#55
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	The Hi-Power looks a lot like the CZ 75B and 75B pattern guns. Truth be told, I prefer the aesthetics of the CZ 75B to the Hi-Power. But, the trigger and smoothness of the slide on my BHP (feels like its gliding on tiny ball bearings) is definitely superior to that of my CZ 75B. In fact, not even my Sig X-Five's slide movement feels as slick as my BHP.

September 24, 2015, 05:25 PM	#57
745SW Senior Member Join Date: August 25, 2011 Location: California Posts: 776	I think anyone with any degree of an accumulation should have a Hi-Point. Just looking and/or handling it will make one appreciate more. Yes, you may not have everythang but what you've got counts.

September 24, 2015, 09:08 PM	#59
ttarp Senior Member Join Date: January 4, 2013 Posts: 888	Dang, those tip the ugly scale so far they come all the way back around to beautiful. 1 and 3 really get my attention, and I'm not usually into the two tone look.

September 25, 2015, 01:50 AM	#60
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,303	"kissing a cow" Like the fella that kissed the cow........to each his own. I think the BHP in wood and blue steel is attractive. The parkerized, synthetic gripped models not so much.....but not ugly either. The SIG P- series, and Glocks, yeah, I always thought they were indeed ugly, ...but they work fine and I own several.

September 25, 2015, 01:57 AM	#61
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,172	Walther PPS looks like a Hi-Point. LOL! __________________ As always, YMMV. __________________________________________ MIIAA SIFE

September 25, 2015, 02:55 AM	#63
9x18_Walther Senior Member Join Date: June 2, 2015 Posts: 500	Another plus for the Hi-Power! No silly front cocking serrations. The Hi-Power has stayed true all of these years unlike other companies picking up the 1911. Until the Hi-Power fad starts in a few year.

September 25, 2015, 08:20 AM	#64
Skans Senior Member Join Date: November 20, 2008 Posts: 11,132	I never understood how folks could love a 1911 but not like the Hi-Power. To me, the Hi-Power is what the 1911 should have eventually evolved into.

September 25, 2015, 11:38 AM	#68
Bartholomew Roberts member Join Date: June 12, 2000 Location: Texas and Oklahoma area Posts: 8,462	230gr at 1660fps? That's practically an intermediate caliber handgun. Also slide mounted safeties make JMB cry.

September 25, 2015, 02:40 PM	#69
SIGSHR Senior Member Join Date: September 13, 2005 Posts: 4,700	It's looks pretty ugly when a terrorist sees one in the hand of an SAS member.

September 25, 2015, 02:40 PM	#70
Quentin2 Senior Member Join Date: June 18, 2009 Location: NorthWest USA Posts: 1,996	Yep, WVsig those truly are horrible looking. I want all of them! Everybody who IS somebody should have at least one Hi Power and one 1911!

September 25, 2015, 05:51 PM	#71
bamaranger Senior Member Join Date: October 9, 2009 Location: North Alabama Posts: 8,303	enlarged BHP Yes it did happen. When the .40 S&W hit the scene, some dimensions on the BHP changed to accomodate the hotter .40 rd, and to the purists, the BHP took a turn in the wrong direction. Me, I think the .40 turned the BHP into a better pistol, as I never owned or handled one of the "traditional models" much, and the .40 is more cartridge, no matter how you look at it. Thing is the .40 BHP did not fly, and I don't thinK its offered anymore. Shows you what I know.

September 25, 2015, 07:56 PM	#72
Walt Sherrill Senior Member Join Date: February 15, 1999 Location: Winston-Salem, NC USA Posts: 6,348	When FN converted the HP to .40, theY found that the gun needed some additional beefing up, and went to a CAST frame rather than forged. I don't think it changed dimensions all that much, but in .40 mode, some folks familiar with the BHP found the feel of the gun different... (A friend who had one loved his, and he could make ANY GUN sing!!) The BHP/FNHP apparently died from lack of buyer interest. Last edited by Walt Sherrill; September 26, 2015 at 05:06 PM.

September 26, 2015, 04:54 PM	#73
Kosh75287 Senior Member Join Date: October 15, 2007 Posts: 820	I always liked the lines on the Browning High-Power, but I've had to admire it from afar. If I actually owned one, I might be less pleased with its looks, but I doubt it. __________________ GOD BLESS JEFF COOPER, whose instructions, consultations, and publications have probably saved more lives than can ever be reliably calculated. DVC, sir. انجلو. المسلحة. جاهزة. Carpe SCOTCH!

September 27, 2015, 05:39 PM	#74
lewwallace Member Join Date: June 15, 2015 Posts: 29	Screenshot_2014-12-05-10-24-23-1-1.jpgHere's ugly! And I love 'em!! Webley semi-autos! C/W top left: 32, Browning 9mm long. 38acp, 455

September 27, 2015, 07:22 PM	#75
rock185 Senior Member Join Date: September 2, 2001 Location: Out West in Rim Country Posts: 1,091	Spread the word! They are odd and ugly looking, not plastic, and worst of all they have no rail to mount accessories, so they can't be tactical. I hope demand for them drops to near zero. I've owned more than my share of these odd, ugly, weird looking things over a good many years, but have not bought or traded for a Hi Power in the last couple. When I get the bug to buy another one, perhaps the ugly things will be selling for about the same price as a used Hi-Point;-) I can only hope. __________________ COTEP 640, NRA Life