Are Shooting Videos not allowed?

TX Hunter · August 23, 2015, 01:42 PM

I shared a Video of Myself Shooting My Rifle. My Video was on Yutube I shared the link and got a warning about Fly By posting. Would someone please EXPLAIN the Rules pertaining to why this was considered an offense. Respectfully TX Hunter

**JohnKSa** · August 23, 2015, 01:47 PM

Shooting videos are certainly allowed.

Drive By/Cut & Paste postings are against the rules.

Forum Rules

Drive By Postings

TX Hunter · August 23, 2015, 02:12 PM

If I want to share a shooting video, or Firearms review what is the proper way to do it ?

Double Naught Spy · August 23, 2015, 04:57 PM

You have to provide a verbal explanation about the video.

Pond, James Pond · August 23, 2015, 05:20 PM

The general practice seems to be to provide a short synopsis of what the video contains. It doesn't need to be a blow-by-blow account, but nor should it be too vague.

I've never posted a video but have linked news reports in the past. I remember one did have a short accompanying text. Too short it seemed as it too was closed as a drive by. So, as I said, don't be too vague: enough for people to know what they are likely to be seeing.

Clark · August 23, 2015, 05:40 PM

I too was surprised when that thread was closed for being a drive by.

What is a drive by?

**Tom Servo** · August 23, 2015, 07:04 PM

The rules on drive-by posts are outlined here.

To explain, we're a discussion forum, not an advertising billboard. We have slews of people who sign up for the sole purpose of promoting their own goods or services, with no intention of actually participating in the forum. They profit, but they don't contribute anything in return.

In short, the rule discourages that behavior and it keeps the signal/noise ratio high, which is something in which we take pride.

Am I accusing the OP of this? Absolutely not. He's a longstanding member. However, the rule against drive-by posts applies across the board. Posting a link to an outside video is fine, but it has to be placed in context. Giving a description and some food for discussion makes it acceptable.

**Mal H** · August 23, 2015, 07:05 PM

Clark, did you see post #2?

**JohnKSa** · August 23, 2015, 07:29 PM

There are a number of reasons for not allowing drive buy/cut & paste. Here's an incomplete list in no particular order (and perhaps including some that have already been given).

Given the general idea of TFL and why people frequent the site, it's not particularly common for a link or cut & paste with no commentary to further the purpose of TFL or benefit the membership.
Many people do not like to click on a link without some idea of what they are seeing and why. This can be for a number of reasons including safe websurfing, the limitations of the computer/device being used for surfing, personal preference regarding content viewed, etc.
Spam is often posted in the form of a drive-by post with a link. By discouraging the membership from posting in this form it makes spam easier to spot.

The link I provided in my first post on the thread contains a more lengthy explanation with other reasons and comments.

TX Hunter · August 23, 2015, 07:35 PM

So if I explained that I wanted to share a video of Me shooting My Rifle with the members it would be ok ? I wasn't trying to sell anything. It was just Me and My Rifle. I always loved this board, because It had People on it with the same Hobby I have.

**JohnKSa** · August 23, 2015, 08:32 PM

Sure, some commentary on what you were doing in the video, what gun were shooting, why you made the video, etc. would have turned it from a drive-by into a regular post with a link.

Something like a summary of the narrated introduction you put on the video would be perfect.

By the way, a lot of the WWII rifles were sighted to hit high at around 100 yards. Some as much as a foot high. That may be why your first shot hit high on the target.

TX Hunter · August 23, 2015, 08:42 PM

Thanks Johnska

Clark · August 24, 2015, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Mal H
Clark, did you see post #2?

I do now.
He was a good guy, who made an appropriate video, but he just gave a link, and did not set it up with an introduction.

"Who'd a thought reading and writing would pay off?" - Homer Simpson

Theohazard · August 24, 2015, 03:07 AM

I really like the strict rules against drive-bys that TFL has. That's the main reason I prefer this forum over other similar gun forums.

There are few things here that I dislike more than when someone posts a link with little to no commentary. So I'm supposed to use up my data plan and bandwidth to load and then watch an external video just to understand what the thread is about? In my opinion, posting only a link to a video is lazy and rude and doesn't belong in a discussion forum.

TX Hunter · August 24, 2015, 06:29 AM

The 8 in the title was a mistake, I tried to correct that, but was un able.

TX Hunter · August 24, 2015, 06:32 AM

Thanks Clark for Your understanding. I did not have bad intent. I will do my best to make a quality post next time. Thank You Firing Line Forums for explaining where I went wrong on this Post.

skizzums · August 24, 2015, 09:15 AM

I have a few YouTube vids of shooting. I have never opened a thread to showcase them. I wait until the is a thread discussing a topic that my video can contribute to. Question about a type of gun or ammo, or what it takes to cast lead etc. If I feel my vid can add substance to a topic ill mention it. I understand that practically noone here profits of their videos, except for one that I know of, I have 20k views on one and haven't earned a single cent, but I also don't know what kind of response people expect to get from posting "here's a vid of me shooting" except a couple atta-boy's and complaints on your technique. If your reviewing a apecific gun, i think those are acceptable as "drive-by's" because some folks are genuinely interested on visual reviews of specific firearms.

August 23, 2015, 01:42 PM	#1
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	Are Shooting Videos not allowed? I shared a Video of Myself Shooting My Rifle. My Video was on Yutube I shared the link and got a warning about Fly By posting. Would someone please EXPLAIN the Rules pertaining to why this was considered an offense. Respectfully TX Hunter Last edited by TX Hunter; August 23, 2015 at 03:39 PM.

August 23, 2015, 04:57 PM	#4
Double Naught Spy Senior Member Join Date: January 8, 2001 Location: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX Posts: 12,717	You have to provide a verbal explanation about the video. __________________ "If you look through your scope and see your shoe, aim higher." -- said to me by my 11 year old daughter before going out for hogs 8/13/2011 My Hunting Videos https://www.youtube.com/user/HornHillRange

August 23, 2015, 05:20 PM	#5
Pond, James Pond Senior Member Join Date: July 12, 2011 Location: Top of the Baltic stack Posts: 6,079	The general practice seems to be to provide a short synopsis of what the video contains. It doesn't need to be a blow-by-blow account, but nor should it be too vague. I've never posted a video but have linked news reports in the past. I remember one did have a short accompanying text. Too short it seemed as it too was closed as a drive by. So, as I said, don't be too vague: enough for people to know what they are likely to be seeing. __________________ When the right to effective self-defence is denied, that right to self-defence which remains is essentially symbolic. Freedom: Please enjoy responsibly.

August 23, 2015, 05:40 PM	#6
Clark Senior Member Join Date: December 4, 1999 Location: WA, the ever blue state Posts: 4,678	I too was surprised when that thread was closed for being a drive by. What is a drive by? __________________ The word 'forum" does not mean "not criticizing books." "Ad hominem fallacy" is not the same as point by point criticism of books. If you bought the book, and believe it all, it may FEEL like an ad hominem attack, but you might strive to accept other points of view may exist. Are we a nation of competing ideas, or a nation of forced conformity of thought?

August 23, 2015, 07:04 PM	#7
Tom Servo Staff Join Date: September 27, 2008 Location: Foothills of the Appalachians Posts: 13,059	The rules on drive-by posts are outlined here. To explain, we're a discussion forum, not an advertising billboard. We have slews of people who sign up for the sole purpose of promoting their own goods or services, with no intention of actually participating in the forum. They profit, but they don't contribute anything in return. In short, the rule discourages that behavior and it keeps the signal/noise ratio high, which is something in which we take pride. Am I accusing the OP of this? Absolutely not. He's a longstanding member. However, the rule against drive-by posts applies across the board. Posting a link to an outside video is fine, but it has to be placed in context. Giving a description and some food for discussion makes it acceptable. __________________ Sometimes it’s nice not to destroy the world for a change. --Randall Munroe

August 23, 2015, 01:47 PM	#2
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,990	Shooting videos are certainly allowed. Drive By/Cut & Paste postings are against the rules. Forum Rules Drive By Postings __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

August 23, 2015, 02:12 PM	#3
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	If I want to share a shooting video, or Firearms review what is the proper way to do it ?

August 23, 2015, 07:05 PM	#8
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern Virginia Posts: 16,955	Clark, did you see post #2?

August 23, 2015, 07:29 PM	#9
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,990	There are a number of reasons for not allowing drive buy/cut & paste. Here's an incomplete list in no particular order (and perhaps including some that have already been given). Given the general idea of TFL and why people frequent the site, it's not particularly common for a link or cut & paste with no commentary to further the purpose of TFL or benefit the membership. Many people do not like to click on a link without some idea of what they are seeing and why. This can be for a number of reasons including safe websurfing, the limitations of the computer/device being used for surfing, personal preference regarding content viewed, etc. Spam is often posted in the form of a drive-by post with a link. By discouraging the membership from posting in this form it makes spam easier to spot. The link I provided in my first post on the thread contains a more lengthy explanation with other reasons and comments. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

August 23, 2015, 07:35 PM	#10
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	So if I explained that I wanted to share a video of Me shooting My Rifle with the members it would be ok ? I wasn't trying to sell anything. It was just Me and My Rifle. I always loved this board, because It had People on it with the same Hobby I have.

August 23, 2015, 08:32 PM	#11
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 24,990	Sure, some commentary on what you were doing in the video, what gun were shooting, why you made the video, etc. would have turned it from a drive-by into a regular post with a link. Something like a summary of the narrated introduction you put on the video would be perfect. By the way, a lot of the WWII rifles were sighted to hit high at around 100 yards. Some as much as a foot high. That may be why your first shot hit high on the target. __________________ Do you know about the TEXAS State Rifle Association?

August 23, 2015, 08:42 PM	#12
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	Thanks Johnska

August 24, 2015, 03:07 AM	#14
Theohazard Senior Member Join Date: April 19, 2012 Location: Western PA Posts: 3,829	I really like the strict rules against drive-bys that TFL has. That's the main reason I prefer this forum over other similar gun forums. There are few things here that I dislike more than when someone posts a link with little to no commentary. So I'm supposed to use up my data plan and bandwidth to load and then watch an external video just to understand what the thread is about? In my opinion, posting only a link to a video is lazy and rude and doesn't belong in a discussion forum. __________________ 0331: "Accuracy by volume."

August 24, 2015, 06:29 AM	#15
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	The 8 in the title was a mistake, I tried to correct that, but was un able.

August 24, 2015, 06:32 AM	#16
TX Hunter Senior Member Join Date: February 11, 2010 Location: East Texas USA Posts: 1,805	Thanks Clark for Your understanding. I did not have bad intent. I will do my best to make a quality post next time. Thank You Firing Line Forums for explaining where I went wrong on this Post.

August 24, 2015, 09:15 AM	#17
skizzums Senior Member Join Date: July 1, 2013 Location: Douglasville, Ga Posts: 4,615	I have a few YouTube vids of shooting. I have never opened a thread to showcase them. I wait until the is a thread discussing a topic that my video can contribute to. Question about a type of gun or ammo, or what it takes to cast lead etc. If I feel my vid can add substance to a topic ill mention it. I understand that practically noone here profits of their videos, except for one that I know of, I have 20k views on one and haven't earned a single cent, but I also don't know what kind of response people expect to get from posting "here's a vid of me shooting" except a couple atta-boy's and complaints on your technique. If your reviewing a apecific gun, i think those are acceptable as "drive-by's" because some folks are genuinely interested on visual reviews of specific firearms. __________________ My head is bloody, but unbowed